calculatingInfinity

Isn't Ballon D'Or is about the year, not season? So United getting embarrassed in CL group stage shouldn't be taken into consideration... Although it wasn't much better in Europe league.

If he's found guilty of doing this I highly doubt he will just be suspended, he will never ref again.

If he's found guilty of doing this I highly doubt he will just be suspended, he will never ref again.

Ian McGarry ‏@garbosj Mikel claims that Clattenberg called him a 'monkey'. #CFC #mufc

Chelsea made a complaint to the Premier League after Mikel stormed into the referee's room to demand an apology after claiming Clattenburg made a racist slur when he booked the midfielder in the 76th minute. Juan Mata is also involved after Chelsea players claim they heard Clattenburg, one of FIFA’s top officials, refer to the midfielder as ‘a Spanish twat’. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2224433/Referee-Mark-Clattenburg-used-racist-slurs-players-Chelsea-complain.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/28/mark-clattenburg-accused-racial-slur-chelsea

A seat was thrown at Hernandez. Ivans fault for even giving him the chance, shouldn't run around across him that closely, it will be a red any day if he goes down... and most pro footballers will.

Hope he gets suspended, the cunt.

Disgusting ref performance. I give Torres a lot of shit and... He was shit again today, but no way that was ever a second yellow, fucking never. Then an offside goal. Fucking United and their refs.

Well that convinced him I'm sure.

Quite clearly no. He needs to be sold cause we have already seen his moody bad side as long as there's just a bit of competition up front with Drogba. He annoys me in every match I watch with him, he doesn't work very hard and he slows down the play all the time, even with good looking counters he stops up and tries to slow the play down, just for him to try and dribble past two defenders instead of just passing it, the play style has changed since he came here and he still just doesn't work properly in the team. Chelsea needs a real quality striker and Torres isn't that, there's huge quality all around on the team except for the forward position. It will be hard to find a club willing to pay his wages though.

A 30 year old forward who has just been out with a long time injury? No thanks.

Eh that's really not true at all, not that your examples haven't been great value but a player like Cazorla while no doubt being great right now won't really have much of a re sale value, Then we can also put lots of examples of young players bought for peanuts and then sold for huge money. De Rossi is great, but will probably be really expensive if he can even be convinced to leave Roma, so I say no thanks and lets focus on Romeu, Mikel and get in another young central midfielder.

But he's already cup tied because of Europe League, no?

But he's already cup tied because of Europe League, no?

He was lucky not to get sent off Doesn't even touch the ball but hits him with stretched legs like that, Stoke being a dirty team doesn't change that. Love Luiz but sometimes he does some pretty crazy stuff.

Yes lets not talk about what is a huge part of nearly every match, that lack of a forward...

3 points is of course the most important, but still a lot of worrying signs all over the pitch, especially Torres who still looks like he plays for another team on another planet.

Great play. Shame Torres is still shit. Dat Mata

About time a striker came on, playing with Torres is like playing with 10 man.

So sloppy by Mikel who has been awful all night, also terrible by Terry there.

Holy fucking shit Oscar.

Torres reaction is just inexcusable. His constant bad attitude and shit performances should surely be enough to get a new forward. Of course people on here will keep defending him, probably even when he's out of the club. The bigger problem of the match was however that there was no creativity from the wings really and there was no techical gifted player to go into combinations with Hazard, yes Mata was out but there was still Oscar and Moses on the bench who would no doubt have done wonders. Also sad to say it, cause I love Frank, but he really doesn't have much to contribute with in matches like this at all. Getting Ramires down on the central midfield with Mikel would be a way better option.

Proves time after time he is the worst 50 mil ever spent and acts like a bloody cunt. But lets keep defending him.

Fuck off Torres, fuck off.