The Skipper

Come on, you're being naive. Okay, Ba hasn't been that good for Chelsea but if you think Torres is better than Ba then you must've been sleeping for the last two and a half years. Forgetting the price, Ba has been a much better striker than Torres over the last 2 and a half years, that's fact. Torres was not the best striker before he joined Chelsea, that's nonsense. I love how people are willing to forget how garbage Torres has been over the last 2 and a half years but when Ba has a rough 6 months with us it's easy to write him off. Anelka was exactly the same when he joined us in January 2008 and guess what? He finished top scorer in the league the season after, after he had a proper pre-season with the team. Again, I love how you're saying "forget the stats" but then being them up for your convenience when it comes to your argument against Ba. Ba has scores 2 in 14? Torres has 8 in 36. To even say Torres has been better than Lukaku last season is absolutely laughable. You can't just forget their wages or prices either. Ba was brought to be the 2nd/3rd choice striker, whilst Torres was bought to be the leading striker. You can't have a £50m who's on £175k a week as your 2nd choice striker. That's nonsense. Ba's been off form in his last couple of games so it's easy for people to look at him and write him off. Torres has ended the season quite well and people are willing to forget his whole time here. It's nothing short of delusional I think.

DP.

Quite reliable. They're certainly not The Sun, Daily Star or the Daily Mail. Still waiting for the source of the quote though.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 is what suits the majority of the players in our squad.

According to Leverkusen Mourinho's made it clear to them that KDB's staying. Add to the fact that Schurrle would sign for £17m... It's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

So potentially KDB back and Schurrle... What I wanted to begin with. Nicely done CFC board and Jose, if true of course. That's depth for the '3' fully sorted out for us now.

Pearce is a poor, poor manager.

Loads of good players going for decent prices, if I was a club like Liverpool I'd be looking to bring in the likes of Sneijder or KPB, especially at the prices they're being quoted at.

No, ESPN has him as 32 official games started (GS) + 5 substitute appearances. Again for the last time, I'm not saying we should sign him, he doesn't suit our squad. All I'm doing is arguing about how I rate him as a player.

You were saying?

Chalobah's looking good though.

What a poor goal to concede.

According to ESPN, he's started 25 in the league, 6 in the CL, and 1 in the Italian Cup which bring it up to 32 even, which definitely makes him a first team player at Milan. And it's been explained by some on here why he hasn't performed this season, he wasn't being played correctly.

I agree that he lacks the vision to play as a traditional number 10 but he's still got great technique in his shots, first touch and is a decent dribbler. If anything, I'd say his best performances have come when he's played behind Ibra practically as a second striker but he can play elsewhere because of his versatility. I'm not saying he's the perfect player, he has his deficiencies but he's nowhere near as average as you're making him out to be.

31 actually.

Well I completely disagree, especially regarding his shooting. And that isn't true either, he's played in a lot of positions this season. I think he's clocked around 40 appearances at least, starting majority, so I wouldn't say he doesn't often make the Milan starting XI. Each to their own though! Just reiterate ans clarify again, I think he's a cracking player on his day and he's actually one of my favourite players to watch in the Serie A but that doesn't mean I'm advocating we should get him. I'm just voicing my opinion on those saying he doesn't offer much technically or that all he's good at is basically running! He doesn't fit our squad make up.

If you read my previous posts I actually explain there's no need for him in our squad. I'm just arguing against people saying he's just an average player or poor technically. He's not a traditional number 10, certainly wasn't when Zlatan and Robinho were there... He was more of a trequartista there. My point is - you can't just offer stamina or pace if you play in that role. You need to have good technical ability.

I know you don't judge players off YouTube videos but please, you can't tell me that an average player who offers only "stamina and pace" can score goals like these? He's got awesome technique.

Why the hell are people comparing KPB to Ake? What am I missing here? It's like comparing Romeu to Mata. Ridiculous.

I'm laughing at how people think he offers nothing but stamina and pace... He was a beast as a number 10 when he had Ibra and Robinho with him. You don't play number 10 if all you offer is "stamina" and "pace".

KPB is technically weak? I mean he hasn't had the best of seasons last year but to say he's technically weak is something else. On his day he's very clearly one of the best in the Serie A in my opinion. Like I said I don't want him here because we don't need him in our squad but he's world class on his day. I agree he's inconsistent but to say he's just a decent player is massively underrating him.

Around £40m is a fair price... Hopefully we can negotiate it down to that fee. The deal actually seems to be progressing quite well.

Did he sleep with a family member or something?

Honestly, KPB is a cracking player, one of my favourites. We just don't need him. 15m euros would be a steal though.

DP.