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Hope we at least won't be denied of any penalties.

OT: In terms of results the 3-3 against ManU was a much more serious showing of our (lack of) (mental) strength than the Arsenal match, even taking into consideration the bizarre refereeing. There are games where the coach should be remembered as the one who messed up but for the 3-5 I'll always blame Malouda, Terry and Cech before AvB.

In a sense Tomo hits the nail on the head. Rafa (and plenty of managers) hides behind injury crises and claims it's his bad luck that screws up his teams, I thought only Scousers bought that. Rafa runs his players to the ground and while he is tactically astound I wouldn't let him anywhere near a group of players who are in their prime as he'll just shorten their careers. Imagine what he could do to our mix of old players and those in their early 20s. Remember how Torres was Liverpool's very own Van Persie in terms of injuries? Look at his injury record once the FSW left.

I can so easily picture this happening in RL I'm feeling guilty.

I think he looks at his best when teams sit deep and invite pressure rather than trying to dominate.

One of the main reasons I want us to move on from the like of Drogba and Lamps is so that we could collectively enjoy wins once again instead of dreading how they'll block any reform attempts, this has been going on since 09/10.

I think it does. With Real winning the league over one of the most dominating footballing sides in history it's a good time for Mourinho to renegotiate his contract and maximize his profits. The man is the best media manipulator in the football world, the last thing he means when he blatantly says he wants to return to the PL is that he intents to return to the PL. He simply realizes how much the media over here love him and overrate this league.

Not fit to clean his boots keyboard.

Very much doubt that is true. A possible explanation would be his good 3/4 weeks in late 09/10 created a false view and somehow raised expectations. Or maybe you finally stopped clutching onto the "he's young he's got potential" nonsense after 5 seasons of disappointment. His first season was by far the worst, since then he's been consistently performing at his level.

The fact that any respectable manager working for us would be more crazy than us getting Rafa says much about how grim things look at the moment.

I don't think I share the anger of most people who didn't want AVB sacked. LDN mentioned on his twitter that this is the most enraging CFC decision since Mourinho, I'd say it's as disappointing and equally disturbing.

No sense crying over spoilt milk. The next day and the next "project/plan" is all that is important (even if the faith of such things excisting is dead). I'd either take the best established manager in the world (Mourinho/Fergie/Guardiola) or get someone in the board with an actual football brain to take the club to the next day. Unless we are talking about the very best I don't care about managers at the moment, nor should anyone else. Our problem is much bigger.

All those threads and I've barely touched most of them, guess this is as good as any to post that at the moment I'm struggling to come up with any ideas of how this club will get sorted. Got absolutely no faith in the people running the club.

Holy mother of crap...

Not in the mood to post anything constructive so here are a few short points on the game: Sturridge lost us the match in a fashion even Torres would be ashamed of. Our most talented player, Mata, looked like his technical skills abandoned him. I actually noticed Lampard was playing in the 44th minute. It's not that he wasn't running around, it's that he looked like he belonged to neither team.. Only Drogba Luiz and probably Essien & Brana had an acceptable game.

The analysis presented seems awfully thorough and detailed (at least by the standards of our website) but probably serves no other purpose than shutting all those against the relocation up. I've been led to believe that SB choices were explored and rejected way before the saynocpo thing so this is little more than a PR move, underlined by how desperately the door to staying at the Bridge is kept from being closed. Is property more expensive at Fulham than Battersea?

Not quite how I remember it, think he wanted Sturriddge's wages and that was nowhere near what the club was willing to offer him. Why would we propose a 1 year contract? Doesn't make any sense.

His stats against former teams are frightening. Cardiff better not implode in the second half.

Opportunity for the Scousers to make our defeat to them 10 times worse. What have we done..

Can't say I noticed. If those passes were to wide areas that's probably better explained by Bolton's lax marking than Essien's passing abiltities.

Wonder why he played 90mins today. Got no other explaination other than that the (media) pressure is getting to AVB and he does not want to risk any more embarassments.

Essien had a much better game that I thought he could. We mostly dominated tha game despite having a midfield would normally appear too negative or mechanical .

I don't remember Bosingwa at LB being a problem when tried.

Thank you! I knew there was something to this midfield that was telling me this could work. Neither Lamps nor Essien are anywhere near mobile enough to deal with what Europe needs.

Has this ever been explained?