Ollie

He should be playing to prove he's fit rather than staying out being proved that he isn't. He must have re-signed for a reason and that reason must have been to play. We wouldn't have done it if he wasn't ok surely. Why bring back a player and sign someone else without giving him a chance to prove himself. Maybe he should be sold or go on loan if that's the case. I too thought he could replace Terry a few years ago. I was there when we played QPR in 2009/2010 in the Carling Cup and he was absolutely immense. I wasn't really thinking if he was a RB or a CB, i just saw a young English defender who looked so assured. His knee injuries were obviously hard for him and he retired thinking they would never be 100%. He's now back, he's a Chelsea player, he has to be used or there was simply no point re-signing him. He showed me in pre season that he's fine. Come on Robbie, we have a RB already. Let him prove himself.

He's only hell bent on moving to Newcastle because we probably haven't shown an interest but i'm sure he must be good frinds with Cabaye too because Cabaye was signed from Lille too and they're both French. If he had the choice, i'm sure he'd come to us. I'd still rather get another Spaniard tho for team spirit/chemistry purposes than a French guy.

should do an Arsenal one with "And the shit from Arsenal once again won fuck all John Terry has won the double" At least that way we can sing 2 versions with 2 different teams on the receiving end.

I really hope he plays at the weekend and i honestly think he will. This is surely the chance he was looking for. Against a team like Wigan, no disrespect to them but he can surely be risked, if you can call it that, against them. The lads fit, he proved that in pre season he even showed some good pace and wasn't scared to go in for a challenge. He also has a great cross for a full back. He could provide 3 - 5 assists a season if he played. I'm certain he can be good enough as cover and even sometime in the future, be the number 1. Of couse if we get Azpilicueta, that blows all that lol.

His man management skills are awful tho. He's just been a very lucky manager with the teams he's taken on. He shat on Bellamy, Adebayor and let Tevez just walk back in. Numerous players have said 'he doesn't even talk to me'. I'm glad they have him in charge because we all know the players are there for money and will be good players despite who is in charge. I could do his job.

By the way, this isn't post match because the pre match stuff is here too.

Who does God support, anyone know?

Maybe it's only me but i thought he was good in the first half. He was shit in the 2nd because we as a team were shit and everyone was shit. He showed me today that he's a good player on the left side and can be very dangerous against a top team. We start the season against some below average premiership teams. Those games are crucial for him getting confidence and learning about the premiership.

Mancini is a crap manager and an even worse man manager. If Man City fuck up in the next 5 years, it's down to having him. That 5 year contract gives everyone else hope. Just the name of a place in Buenos Aires.

Look now :eyebrows: http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html Anyway, stupid time to have a friendly. Just, mad.

I usually laugh at overreactions but i'm really not laughing now. This is getting serious, we've lost 4 games in a row, despite them not being huge games, nobody wants to lose. Today was the real first game with the starting XI that will probably be used throughout the season against a team like Man City to send out a statement. This game really mattered to me, i love watching us win trophies, this really is a trophy, it counts on the official honours list. Pissed off. We didn't play great but we looked ok and looked fairly comfortable i thought. Hazard looked good with the ball in the first half and Torres looked sharp but that red card just ruined everything. Why his left foot was so high, only he knows. Stupid, stupid, idiot tackle. The thing that pissed me off most tho was how poor we were with 10 men, i mean we got battered. Yeah the score was 3-2 but that doesn't tell the true story. It should've been 5-1. Our defence has been shit since the first game in pre season. At least we have an easy start (on paper) to the season. We lost the CS to Man Utd 3-1 in 2010 then whipped Wigan away 6-0 just 2 weeks later winning the first 5 or 6 games. I'm not expecting miracles but we should've been much more professional than we were today. City are a dirty bunch of fuckers tho but it rattled us and we lost control. Annoying.

Meh... at least we only lost 3-2 somehow. Pile of shit, deserved to lose 5-1

Mikel has had his worst game EVER in a Chelsea shirt. He's done only awful things, never seen a CDM have such an atrocious game.

This is painfully horrible to watch. Brana deserved to get sent off and now we're completely fucked. This could end up 5 or 6-1 and it's trully horrible to witness how we're getting completely smashed with 10 men. That's 4 defeats in a row, roll on Wigan. joys.

Instead of ppl asking for streams, why don't they look in the stream thread that we have or just plain look for one.

It's hardly a wing is it. There's 3 behind a striker, they can't all go in the middle.

Great team, bit surprised Mata is starting but very exciting line up. Looking forward to this more now after seeing that previous line up ...

Quite out of the blue i suppose but he hasn't developed as well as i thought he would in 2009 so if they make him a great player, good luck.

When we went down to Barca 2-0, we went to 1000/1 on paddy power to qualify. But regarding Liverpool winning the league... Stranger things haven't happened. They wont even get top 5. But then again... http://www.goal.com/en/news/2994/betting/2011/11/21/2767619/glen-johnsons-winner-for-liverpool-earns-punter-over-585000

Please tell me this thread hasn't gone into overdrive because he missed that chance at the end.

Well, the Olympic final is on soon, i can't wait for that. Maybe i'll look for that Juve - Napoli game, cheers lol. Ahh... Rangers are on, that could be interesting lol i'll watch that.

He should go to a team like Brighton who like to play the right way and has ambition to improve. The Championship is made of young squads full of players who have come through the ranks like Josh has for us. He'd feel at home there with everyone around or below his level. Josh has the game to be a great championship player and that will give him great confidence to come back and fight for his place. It will also be good to see where he is in terms of his level. He needs to show Chelsea that he's a higher level than the players in the 2nd tier. He needs to bulk up, play lots of consecutive games and be a star at that level. It would be hard for him in the prem as he'll be up against players, week in, week out who are a higher level and he wouldn't be able to stand out enough. He has to take it one step at a time.

Ok, Leeds paid over the odds then u win. Remember him scoring an o.g for us playing for West Ham, he looked like an awkward cunt then, i still think he's the same lol. Wow, league cup starts today. I thought the Championship started a week before the prem, they seem to have changed it. Shit games tho, i just wanna watch some football. I need top find a stream for something. Olympics is nice but i need my football fix, especially on a saturday.

I think £30m for any young unproven defender is a risk and i always personally found him rather over rated. Without Vidic, he is clearly not the same. He always had the potential but i'm just not so sure about £30m. Maybe £24m max but it's not the worst bit of business they've done. It's hard tgo judge tho, i mean players like Sheva, Forlan, Berbatov, seemed like good business at the time but end up being bad business (Torres) but sometimes you need to take the gamble.

Berba and Rio were good players but i still think £30m for them is over the top. Carrick was never worth what Man Utd paid for him as well as Hargreaves. It's ok saying they were good players but they weren't as good as what their price suggests. And well.... nobody can compare to Liverpool. I'd love to know the exact figure they spent since winning the UCL, to get gradually worse. Only the 08/09 campaign they had a good league season. Since then, it's been shocking.