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I think Cholou posted this video and you have missed it. Here is how they are being warned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VheYOMyjTg0 This was also reported on different medias. You can blame hamas for being fanatics, extremists, radicals, terrorists, stubborn or whatever. But you can't ignore the ones who pull the trigger buddy. FYI: The Egyptian government hates Hamas and holds it responsible and just issued a new statement with this regards. And as for us Egyptian citizens, we hate them too since the days of Mubarak, when they used to snipe our soldiers who had no contact with them.
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Don't doubt, just read the UN reports and the American news regarding the civilian casualties. And go back and read the thread, no one votes for Hamas. I think I know much more about what is going on in Egypt than you do. Simply because the western media does not report much. And no, the blood is not on Hamas, it is as equally on Hamas as it is on the IDF.
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Seriously? You are justifying that 80% of the dead are civilians and only 20% "might be" Hamas. Even the Some of the Israelis here on this thread don't like that. That demonstrates how incompetent a military is. It shows they can not pick their targets with their latest state of the art technology. Not to mention, it raises other questions about the intentions of the attack mate.
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LOOOOL. I was about to type that.
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Did anyone say on this thread that they are rational people? I don't think so. But you said before that there is no difference between Hamas and Fateh ( who have been for decades seeking a diplomatic solution). I believe Stingray, Fulham and Chalou have suggested that if Israel would make some REAL peaceful actions, the likes of Hamas will just dissolve. That is 100% true as the Palastenians will clearly see that diplomocy is making their lives better, and they themselves will end Hamas without you having to fire a single bullet. It will definitely take time as it is not an on/off switch. Other countries like Egypt,Lebanon, Jordan will start cooperating in order to make the lives of the Palestinians better. But that is not the Israeli approach. As a matter of fact the Isreali approach to the problem only invites more hostility to the region and less cooperation from your neighbors. Sooner or later, the U.S will fail to support Israel as their economical crisis is jsut increasing along with the rate of social injustice. You will have to face this on your own. That will not turn out well for the both parties. So you have to start thinking more strategically and rationally for the sake of the future of Israel and Palestine. But if you keep the arrogance and denial of the others right for a human living, education, health and economy, I am afraid the future will be troubling.
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Your point?
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Not a single person here denied Israel to defend itself. But you have to be level headed. Hamas "rockets" are useless without your iron dome. They are even more useless with your iron dome. It would have been understandable if you carried out operations to take out their leaders specifically. For crying out loud one Khaled Mishal is living safely in Qatar and all you can do is take it out in the Palestinian civilians. That says a lot about the effectiveness and morality of the the Israeli military.
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That is about right. The head of the Jewish community is a lady from Alexandria. They are living amongst the rest of the population like normal citizens. If I am not mistaken too, El Safaxi is one of the biggest African football clubs in Tunisia and it is owned by Jewish business man. Maccabi Tel Aviv was also founded in Cairo Egypt btw. And was always considered at the time as a "high class" club. Not to mention the long list of well appreciated Jews you contributed to the Egyptian Cinema and Journalism and are still remembered in those fields as pioneers.
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Never did I say that Hamas is anything but radical extremists. That is how the government sees them and how the PEOPLE see them. Not once of this form did I attack Judaism as a faith I believe in and respect nor defend the actions of Hamas. The people of Palestine are suffering. The retaliation of the Israeli army is really overwhelming and disproportional. The suffering of the Palestinians cannot be blamed only on Hamas. Israel is responsible (politically and militarily speaking, not religiously) for the decades of oppression, symbolized in the irrational attacks, the siege and social injustice. The way the government acts is no better than Hamas. It will lead as Chalou said to the rise of stronger and more fierce extremists. The usual military approach of Israel proved that it will only make things worse for the Palestinans and definitely for the Israelis.
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They Jews started leaving Egypt and heading to other countries in the 1940s as Rommel was trying to take over Alexandria and Egypt. The Jews feared that if he succeeded, the Jews will be killed. So some of them started leaving. Furthermore started to immigrate to Israel especially after the scandel of Lavon Affair, where some Egyptian Jews bombed the British and American consulates to raise tension between Britain ( who was already hurt from the removal of the Egyptian King Farooq) and the U.S. No Jews where tortured in Egypt or oppressed as they were considered equal Egyptian citizens. The ones found guilty (8) where prosecuted, and two of them got the death penalty. The Israeli government were furious at the time, as this scandel was exposed and started opening internal investigations. p till this day, Israeli Jews come to Egypt to visit various temples and Jewish places. I happen to live near one in Alexandria.
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I know man. Btw, if you realized from my posts, I hate Hamas. The sad thing is that Hamas is not paying for it. Innocents are.
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I guess the attorney general's office in Israel realize that there are fanatics on both sides. Can't understand why some just deny that and blame radicalism and extremism only on Palestinians edition.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/meast/israel-palestinian-teen-death-indictment/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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She definitely know much more than you do. She is not putting things out of context like you or falsifying things to make a point. She took the time and effort to STUDY and UNDERSTAND the language. You are just taing bits and parts out of their contexts and throwing it out to make a case.
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This is all falsified history James. I know my religion and history much more than you do. Not to mention I know how to properly read my book without taking things out of context. An advice to you is if you want to understand something, such as a faith that over a billion follow, you would have to approach it in non biased, no prejudice way. I have seen Jews do that better than you. Not to mention that they are actually specialized. Possibly you have ignored this before so I am putting it out again. A JEWISH HISTORIAN BUDDY, someone who actually spent time to read and learn.
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100% agree, I hate extremism on all levels. Not just religious but even in sports. Fans fight each other everywhere and some kill each other out of extremism. It is always good to try as much as possible to be level headed.
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Love the fact that as a nuetral you can make a clear distinction between extremists and normal people.
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LOOOOL. Again James you fail miserably, as the Quran does not mandate "struggling", it mandates STRIVING to DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY WHEN ATTACKED. You love to interpret things the way you want. Like in the video, Bin Ladin would love you buddy.
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LOL, Define Jihad for everyone hear since that you are so knowledgeable on it James.
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The full sentence, where he shows that he slipped up and what he corrects it by say RESISTANCE. LOL
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. I DARE YOU TO PUT THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW OR ATLEAST LET HIM FINISH THE SENTENCE. You basically crop out the sentence at the point that pleases you.That is PATHETIC. . Even any no Arab here would realize that the guy is stopped in the middle of the sentence.
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What is more interesting is claiming to understand Islam more than Muslim Scholars and mainstream Muslims. Ignoring the fact that through out history, at some point or another, so called religious people, from all faiths, hijacked religions in order to carry out some sort of political agenda, to increase wealth, power and fulfill sick racist desires.
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Based on the Syrian video you posted? LOL
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Same non sense gets repeated all the time. It actually becomes amusing.
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And liberators of their stolen lands.
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First of all it is not Hamas. Apparently it is someone Syrian telling Bashar Al Asad that one day these kids will grow up and bring victory to the people. i.e metephorically saying that no matter how long Bashar stays and keeps killing people a younger generation will bring justice to the Syrians one day. He is also blaming other countries ( with the choice of words hinting Arabs) for standing by and watching what is happening to the Syrian people without taking any action. Nothing to do with Hamas. Apparently it is the Syrian resistance.
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