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19. Mason Mount

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so whats the deal with him? is he planned to be in our squad next season?

if so, mount, rlc, kante, barkley, kovacic or another world class midfielder. doubt he will se much playing time.

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10 minutes ago, whats happening said:

so whats the deal with him? is he planned to be in our squad next season?

if so, mount, rlc, kante, barkley, kovacic or another world class midfielder. doubt he will se much playing time.

If we sell CHO to Bayern, then best of luck to Mount, Abraham etc...

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

If we sell CHO to Bayern, then best of luck to Mount, Abraham etc...

Reece James and Ola Aina too.

All HG btw, which really fucks us.

Roman (sell the club!) and Sarri will need to go if we also sell Mount, James, etc after Sarri's futures refusal to play them (assuming CHO is sold per reports).

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7 hours ago, Jason said:

If we sell CHO to Bayern, then best of luck to Mount, Abraham etc...

That logic doesn't reallt work because if CHO does get sold it's not something we are doing by choice.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

That logic doesn't reallt work because if CHO does get sold it's not something we are doing by choice.

But we are having to make the choice because the manager isn't giving CHO enough game time and if that's already happening, then who's to say that the same won't happen with the other young players? We are already bad at developing young players and we have a manager who doesn't boast a good record at using young players as well. 

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38 minutes ago, Jason said:

But we are having to make the choice because the manager isn't giving CHO enough game time and if that's already happening, then who's to say that the same won't happen with the other young players? We are already bad at developing young players and we have a manager who doesn't boast a good record at using young players as well. 

Neither Mason or Tammy will command the type of interest CHO is, and both seem desperate to make it here anyway especially the former.

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37 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Neither Mason or Tammy will command the type of interest CHO is, and both seem desperate to make it here anyway especially the former.

They can talk about making it here all they want but at the end of the day, if they don't get the chances, the playing time, they will want to leave. 

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Matt Law's Chelsea briefing tmg_smt_glyph_sport.png

Mounting pressure on Mason's prospects

Chelsea’s hunt for a midfield replacement for Cesc Fabregas has forced
them to consider the development of Mason Mount.

Mount is currently on a season-long loan at Derby County and has
already earned an England senior call-up for the games against Croatia
and Spain last October.

Chelsea identified both Cagliari’s Nicolo Barella and Zenit St
Petersburg’s Leandro Paredes as potential replacements for Fabregas,
but conversations within the club also centred on Mount.

Scouts were asked to assess whether or not they felt 21-year-old
Barella or 24-year-old Paredes would provide a direct block to Mount’s
path towards Chelsea’s first-team squad.

Fearing they are fighting a losing battle to try to keep 18-year-old
Callum Hudson-Odoi, who has been the subject of a £35 million bid from
Bayern Munich, Chelsea are determined not to face a similar scenario
over 20-year-old Mount.

The Blues are well aware that English and foreign clubs will pounce on
any opportunity to try to convince Mount to seek first-team football
elsewhere.

And Chelsea are determined to be able to demonstrate to Mount that he
will be given every chance to succeed at the club he first joined at
the age of six.

Having spent a hugely valuable season on loan with Championship
promotion chasers Derby under the watch of Chelsea legend Frank
Lampard, Mount is likely to go on loan to a Premier League club next
season.

Ideally, Mount would be able to stay at Derby if they get promoted but
if they do not then the youngster is likely to be loaned elsewhere to
get top-flight experience.

Chelsea’s hope is that he will then be ready for their squad and
compete for a regular first-team place.

Given the club’s high turnover of managers, it cannot be taken for
granted that current head coach Maurizio Sarri will feel the benefit
of Mount’s development but Chelsea are determined not to allow him to
become disenchanted.

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In an ideal world we would use the academy as a feeder straight into 1st team back ups.

But in reality the majority just aren't good enough for our needs. And its necessary for them to have 1/2/3 years playing regular,getting kicked/building their physique and strength before we could use them.

They aren't all at CHO level who also isn't exactly ready tho still usable.

The major plus is that they are HG.

We don't really know if Mount or Tammy will be ready by the summer do we. So are we prepared to gamble on the hope they are and not bother finding someone now?

Other teams mange to have 2 good players pushing for a starting spot. Its important that we do.

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Chelsea: Mason Mount is not the regista you are looking for

https://theprideoflondon.com/2019/01/26/chelsea-mason-mount-not-regista-looking/

Mason Mount has been playing an absurd amount of minutes at Derby County on loan from Chelsea. Some want him to return as a regista deputy. He is not that.

Mason Mount is one of the loan army’s brightest stars. Frank Lampard seemingly agrees as he has virtually played Mount every minute he has been available. In fact Mount (and Fikayo Tomori) have both played more than Derby County’s first choice keeper and are only beaten out by the team’s captain.

Chelsea management and fans alike are already looking towards the future. The Blues need someone to deputize Jorginho right now. But some want Mount to return and play the role, while others fear bringing in another midfielder will force Mount out of the club. But all of that does not make a whole lot of sense. Mount is a fantastic player, but being a regista behind Jorginho simply is not in his future. It would be a waste of his skill set. There is a sense that because he is young that he can learn the role. That is true; he could learn the role. But the question should not be whether or not he could but whether he should.

Mount is very quick with the ball at his feet. He has a great touch and great passing to pair with it. But he also has very good positional sense and Lampard has clearly been teaching him how to time his late runs. To use an antiquated and rigid definition, Mount is an eight like Lampard was before him.

Moving Mount to the regista spot could work and he would likely do well there. But he would do even better in one of the other midfield spots where he can attack more and press more aggressively. Ethan Ampadu finds himself in a similar debate right now. Whereas he can play the regista role, he is even better as a centerback. Again, just because a player is young and can learn a role does not mean they should.

 

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