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No, you're overestimating when you say journalists write stuff based on the general consensus of which the forum is a part. Journalists don't give a fuck about the general consensus, otherwise they wouldn't have been praising Benitez to high heaven when most Chelsea fans (paying and virtual) couldn't stand the sight of him. They write stuff entirely based on their biases and observations - good and bad.

Of course the general consensus plays a HUGE part in what journos write and in turn the media influences the general consensus. That's why 90% of the whats written in the papers and said by the 'experts' on TV are the same crap being repeated over and over again. Of course, there are variations based on personal opinion and biases, but that seems to be very smal. There are also variations based on what would be considered "shocking" and get more clicks, but that's the state of the media in the world right now.

Regarding Rafa, while most Chelsea fans hated his guts, the majority of football fans in the country were on his side and thought that he was being mistreated by the Chelsea fans. It was even said publicly by some opposition managers. So, the general consensus in football was very sympathetic with him.

You really can't argue that the general consensus does not influence opinions. That's ridiculous!

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Of course the general consensus plays a HUGE part in what journos write and in turn the media influences the general consensus. That's why 90% of the whats written in the papers and said by the 'experts' on TV are the same crap being repeated over and over again. Of course, there are variations based on personal opinion and biases, but that seems to be very smal. There are also variations based on what would be considered "shocking" and get more clicks, but that's the state of the media in the world right now.

Basically what I said a post above - reporters influence general consensus more than it being the other way around.

Regarding Rafa, while most Chelsea fans hated his guts, the majority of football fans in the country were on his side and thought that he was being mistreated by the Chelsea fans. It was even said publicly by some opposition managers. So, the general consensus in football was very sympathetic with him.

The same fans who snickered and laughed their heads off when the guy was at Liverpool. Anything to make CFC look bad.

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In my experience it's the reporters who influence general consensus, not the other way round.

Very, very rarely. You're suggesting that people read informed, articulate articles and make judgments accordingly based on reason. They don't.

People tend to read newspapers to reconfirm their pre-existing biases. Sports journos tend to just write around narratives that are already out there so people will read their articles and nod along. Occasionally you get journos who write contrary pieces to be different and gain attention that way.

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Very, very rarely. You're suggesting that people read informed, articulate articles and make judgments accordingly based on reason. They don't.

People tend to read newspapers to reconfirm their pre-existing biases. Sports journos tend to just write around narratives that are already out there so people will read their articles and nod along. Occasionally you get journos who write contrary pieces to be different and gain attention that way.

Nope, not suggesting that. In a dynamic, extremely competitive industry like sports journalism what you get is 90% of the baying crowds fed by biased pieces and rhetoric (especially in this age of twitter and the like) drowning out 'informed, articulated' opinions. This 90% then becomes the general consensus.

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Basically what I said a post above - reporters influence general consensus more than it being the other way around.

The same fans who snickered and laughed their heads off when the guy was at Liverpool. Anything to make CFC look bad.

For that to be true, journos would have to be writing new ideas in their articles and then people would read those articles and adopt the opinions. But that's never the case. The vast majority of the articles in papers are just recycling of what everyone is saying with slight variations based on personal opinions and biases. The influence of the general consensus on what is written in papers is much more than the influence of papers on the general consensus.

People don't want to read new opinions that they don't already have. That's very scary for them. They want to read journos write what they already believe is true. Anything to sell papers.

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For that to be true, journos would have to be writing new ideas in their articles and then people would read those articles and adopt the opinions. But that's never the case. The vast majority of the articles in papers are just recycling of what everyone is saying with slight variations based on personal opinions and biases. The influence of the general consensus on what is written in papers is much more than the influence of papers on the general consensus.

People don't want to read new opinions that they don't already have. That's very scary for them. They want to read journos write what they already believe is true. Anything to sell papers.

Very, very rarely. You're suggesting that people read informed, articulate articles and make judgments accordingly based on reason. They don't.

People tend to read newspapers to reconfirm their pre-existing biases. Sports journos tend to just write around narratives that are already out there so people will read their articles and nod along. Occasionally you get journos who write contrary pieces to be different and gain attention that way.

Hmm, come to think of it, you both are making good sense and are probably correct. I'll have to keep a keener eye on these mechanisations.

Sorry Choo Choo :cry:

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One thing that I'm fully intrigued by is the boom/bust aspect of this signing. We essentially got Costa at 32M and about a year or two before, if he continues to progress, that price doubles. It is an interesting risk and also the type of move that could look genius in a few years. We were rumoured to be in for Cavani who went for €64m and also Falcao who went for £51m, these guys were expensive because they had at least two years of playing at an elite level and were into the prime of their careers. With Costa turning 26 in October, we get him right before he potentially becomes a world beater! Falcao's move to Atletico was his breakout year and Cavani's was his move to Napoli, with Costa I will be paying close attention to whether or not he continues with the pattern set out by the aforementioned.

Firm believer if we get 75% of the player he was in La Liga we will win the league quite comfortably.

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Piece by a fella on twitter. Really good read http://plainsofalmeria.co.uk/2014/07/02/diego-costa-walk-the-line/

This is what gives me hope: “fantastic capacity for occupying four defenders on his own. He has this trick of not really looking as good as he actually is. “[…] doesn’t look particularly quick, or technically that good, but he is far faster and talented than it seems. Sometimes it seems that he is one step away from losing the ball, he doesn’t appear to have it under control, but he keeps it and more often than not he finishes. He also had that mala leche (attitude/edge)”.

I really hope he's actually better than he looks :)

I do like the pitbull aspect of his personality. We almost desperately need someone that won't bend to others. In simpler words, we need a cunt. We got two with him and Cesc, although they're different kinds of cunts. But we needed someone with Costa's personality. Good thing he probably won't have a chance to face Suarez, otherwise he'd be bitten to bleed :lol:.

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http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3945459?cid=DM6467&bid=83278589

This really should be in the player section now, it's already official...

What's the obsession with it? I don't see it at all. It isn't official, terms have been agreed but that doesn't make it official.

It gets moved when he is holding the shirt and our site has it showing so.

:dunno:

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http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3945459?cid=DM6467&bid=83278589

This really should be in the player section now, it's already official...

He hasn't signed yet. We'll move it when he signs. I don't get it, what's the rush?

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