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BlueLion.

Fernando Torres

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It's not just Torres who needs shot out of this club, there's quite a few, It's pointless having world class players in your team, then average ones in certain positions.

United make it work, you just need the right 'average players' and for them not to have an ego.

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United make it work, you just need the right 'average players' and for them not to have an ego.

You can't compare with United though, Ferguson is a miracle worker, United are the only team ever to do that and win titles. Down due to luck most of the time, but they still fucking do it.

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few clubs can afford his wages, and he's under a long-term contact with Chelsea, so realistically, he is going nowhere. He may rot on the bench, but still happily collect his paycheck every other week.

Personally, I think his problems are more physical than of motivation; his pace is gone. I really wanted to know whether Chelsea's fitness coaches think they can get him closer to his former self or not.

I'm sad to say it, but it seems Chelsea have been had. Liverpool fitness coaches probably noticed he was getting slower and advised the manager to sell him.

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United make it work, you just need the right 'average players' and for them not to have an ego.

I don't think Manu has plenty of average player, most of their average players are squad player.

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few clubs can afford his wages, and he's under a long-term contact with Chelsea, so realistically, he is going nowhere. He may rot on the bench, but still happily collect his paycheck every other week.

Personally, I think his problems are more physical than of motivation; his pace is gone. I really wanted to know whether Chelsea's fitness coaches think they can get him closer to his former self or not.

I'm sad to say it, but it seems Chelsea have been had. Liverpool fitness coaches probably noticed he was getting slower and advised the manager to sell him.

Sad but it's true, His salary is just too high to sell him

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The problem is Torres is actually a below-average player. People probably consider the likes of Holt, Lambert, Long and Fletcher average, but they are still better than our good old Fernando. I would recall Lukaku and try him up front, because at least we know he's a young player who's only going to improve

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few clubs can afford his wages, and he's under a long-term contact with Chelsea, so realistically, he is going nowhere. He may rot on the bench, but still happily collect his paycheck every other week.

I'd say he could still be sold just at a massive lose for the club - but it was always going to be that way considering the amount we paid. He is 28 year old, the things that made him feared in England like acceleration and instinct are gone. Nearly two years later his greatest contribution to this club is winning a Corner, while he picks up his 14 million pounds in wages and plays regardless of form. There have been 3 coaches who thus far have tried to get the best out of Fernando and two of them were sacked in small part due to not getting the best out of him. RdM has infuriated me with his persistence it would have been nice to see Sturridge play 1 or 2 games as a starter when he was fit in our first 8 fixtures of the season and make a valid comparison between the two players. Tonight Sturridge setup Hazard a thing that in a few other forums I'm signed up in Torres would have been praised to no avail and all the lose of possession we witnessed tonight would have been swept under the rug.

My main gripe with Torres is his complete disregard to scoring typical striker goals. He remains static waiting at one place for most crosses and passes into the box, hoping they ball is played into his feet. Usually a striker would try to get in front of a defender and not remain static during such situations. Torres remains in one spot waiting for the ball to be played into his feet, something that is not going to happen unless a defender fucks up. Sometimes during such situation he isn't even in the box. He moves far more in the box during set pieces than in open play.

He might be running at full speed, but as soon as he enters the box he stops quite often wondering what to do and where to be. Most strikers playing in front of Oscar; Hazard and Mata would want to make themselves available rather than shy away - Torres has never been that good inside the box with his movement but thus far he has failed to adapt and won't get many easy goals like the one against Reading unless he starts to move there.

I've given up, I feel that with the current squad Sturridge would easily outscore Torres given the same amount of time because he will look to make himself available, because he is able to beat a player with both speed and trickery and MOST IMPORTANTLY he is NOT AFRAID TO SHOOT. I just hope RdM realizes this soon and stops using Sturridge when we are already chasing the game(QPR and now Shakhtar). Give Daniel a run in this team and start it off with our match against United

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Torres is deadwood, nothing like what he was back then with Liverpool.Bench him and start Sturridge till january.I don't know how much at loss the club will be if we sell him but if we don't we would lose even more ! It's a no brainer.When I saw we got Torres I was like woow, almost like winning CL.He was sooo good back then, fast, strong and with so much determination and confidence, he was a lion ! Now it just pains me to watch him not only for CFC but for him aswell what a downfall.

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I have never been a Torres supporter, but tbf he wasn't the problem Yesterday. He wasn't great, but he was no where as bad as the likes of Hazard, Oscar, Ramires and especially Luiz.

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He had a bad game yesterday like a lot of other players but i am sure RDM will start him this sunday. Sturridge has to start getting in the starting lineup robbie cant always play him!

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Our cheek is clear though, we've given him so much support it's crazy. Lots of it was undeserved, yet we supported our player like we are supposed to. Obviously I wish the lad all the best in Chelsea colors, but it seems it just wasn't meant to be. It will be 2 years after January...and besides a few goals and dribbles, he hasn't done anything remarkable :(

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He has been so embarrassingly poor. He can do nothing at all. His pace is that of a snail. Even if he has five seconds to get a shot off he can't because he is too slow. He has one on one chances with the keeper where he waits and waits and finally just loses the ball. This has become the norm for him. I was so excited when he came here. Nothing short of an colossal disappointment. This team has so much potential with a proper striker.

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Think of all the top teams in Europe. Teams like Madrid, Barca, Utd, City, Juve etc.

Would Torres start for them? Of course he wouldn't. He wouldn't even make their bench. But yet he's our number 1 striker and has started every single game this season.

The club is letting itself down by letting this nightmare continue.

The club is paying somebody who is so poor at his job 185k per week. Normal fans are struggling to pay for tickets and we have this guy earning that much.

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Think of all the top teams in Europe. Teams like Madrid, Barca, Utd, City, Juve etc.

Would Torres start for them? Of course he wouldn't. He wouldn't even make their bench. But yet he's our number 1 striker and has started every single game this season.

The club is letting itself down by letting this nightmare continue.

The club is paying somebody who is so poor at his job 185k per week. Normal fans are struggling to pay for tickets and we have this guy earning that much.

Don't be so hasty to attack the board. Yes, it was a mistake bringing him here for 50m at the time but it's easy to say that now. I can't remember a single Chelsea fan complaining back in the day. If he came here and produced what we expected him too, it would have been a good transfer. Who is to blame for that? Certainly not the board, but Torres himself. I applaud the board for wanting to spend that insane amount of money for a player because only a very few clubs in the world would do that.

Torres is the one playing games and he is the one who needs to deal with the pressure. Not fans, not coaches and not the board.

You complain he is still at the club? It's the right move if you ask me. You don't go and spend 50million for a player and when he struggles you just dump him like a broken toy. You try to help him and fix him and even if you can't fix him, you try to make him at least work so you can sell him and get some of your money back. We tried that and with the players like Hazard, Mata and Oscar at the club, there is absolutely no excuse anymore for his mediocre games. What can the club do now? We certainly can't bring another player until January comes so we gotta stick by our current strikeforce and hopefully survive in all competitions with Torres.

Besides all that, we did try to bring another striker in the last transfer window. Cavani almost came and we sent bids for Hulk and Schurrle meaning we wanted to bring another player.

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Just wanted to add my voice to those saying that his performance was absolutely dreadful.

The Kalou analogy has ringed true to my ears for some time now as far as his on the ball play is concerned but now his off the ball play is proving to be even worse and at times slower than what you'd expect from any PL quality striker.

I settled with the fact that we are truly stuck with him a long time ago and Sturridge's contract situation isn't helping but surely if he continues to be detrimental to our season in important games things must change.

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