Chelsea Officially Signed Willian

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

Overreaction much?

No, it's not. I agree with him, the clubb dissapoints us very often. Sacking managers, ruining young player carreer, signing players from rival teams, appointing Benitez ( ). Being succesful is important, but I don't like this conception.

[DDA 9,924]

Do you know why Mourinho jumped in for Willian?

Because he saw Mata was not good enough at RW, Kevin can't play there all the time and Moses is not good enough too.

That is jumping to conclusions based on one game you saw Mata play out there.

Mata is not quick enough to play the wing against the super powers of football. He is more effective centra. That is the most obvious fact about Matas game. With Willian we now have 4 natural wingers in Hazard, Schurrle, Moses and Willian with KdB also capable of playing there. I'm fine with gaving that many options plus pissing of the Yid scum in the process.

This isn't our last signing either. Expect a striker almost certainly.

[Stats 7,136]

This club is an embarassment at times. What an utterly pointless signing.

Thought the club was finally beyond insane deals like this. Seems not.

Another 4 or 5 careers wasted with this signing it seems. Chalobah, McEachran, Piazon, Loftus Cheek etc arent getting any chances anymore.

Pathetic.

I get your angle fully however the aforementioned players have nothing to do with Willian arrival. Different positions for a start apart from Piazon who I don't think is good enough. However players we have already, capable of doing a job will see chances limited.

[themightyblue 443]

What other alternatives are there? Only way to get them all playing time is if one of them plays as a CF (position change) like you said. And, if that was the case then spending 30M to turn an AM to a CF doesn't make sense either when you can spend that 30M and buy a dedicated CF in the first place.

Who else can change their position?

As has been mooted for some time, Jose may have decided that he sees KDB or Oscar occupying a deeper position to make use of there passing range. Or maybe even Schurrle will play a more prominent role as a striker. The point is, wait and see what is planned before bashing a signing and saying 'x player will suffer'.

This club is an embarassment at times. What an utterly pointless signing.

Thought the club was finally beyond insane deals like this. Seems not.

Another 4 or 5 careers wasted with this signing it seems. Chalobah, McEachran, Piazon, Loftus Cheek etc arent getting any chances anymore.

Pathetic.

Apart from the fact that 3 of the players you listed are central midfielders while Willian is attacking. And in the case of Piazon, Boga etc they haven't even reached 20 yet. Not all players have to breakthrough at 18. It's rare nowadays at a top club

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Oscar, KDB, Van Ginkel, Ramires doesn't affect Josh, Chalobah and RLC? You guys are even more naive than I thought.

Oscar and KDB would both start for almost any team in the World and would be on their way out if they aren't first choice which means we have to pigeon hole both players there if we want to keep both.

So yes Mou would rather play those two deeper rather than the aforementioned players.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

60 games for 3 positions = 180 games to be distributed over 6 players

On average that's 30 games a player assuming all equal. That's less playing time you'd get on 80% of the clubs worldwide because that's how good are bench players are going to be now.

Hazard - 45 games minimum

Mata - 40 games

Oscar - 40 games

Willian - 40 games

KDB - 15 games (not good enough)

Schurrle - 0 games (lol)

How else are you going to distribute it?

I think its better to go by minutes rather than games.

[Stats 7,136]

Mata is not quick enough to play the wing against the super powers of football. He is more effective centra. That is the most obvious fact about Matas game. With Willian we now have 4 natural wingers in Hazard, Schurrle, Moses and Willian with KdB also capable of playing there. I'm fine with gaving that many options plus pissing of the Yid scum in the process.

This isn't our last signing either. Expect a striker almost certainly.

But it does not mean that Mata cannot play there. Look at Ozil. He is not quick but he does a good job when out wide. Mata can do same, despite lacking the pace. Yes, Willian will help us out wide but that is jumping to conclusions to think he is signing William because Mata cannot play out wide.

[Rom2013 446]

The best option is to sell Moses and loan KdB. Our wingers were not wingers, KdB is a CAM, the same with Mata and Oscar.

MOses is a winger but he is not good enough.

Now we have Hazard and Willian that can create 1 vs 1 situations, we have Oscar and Mata who will play as CAM but they can play too as wingers if necessary, and we have Schurle that is a pure winger.

We will have a much more balanced squad with this players.

But we need a ST.

[Rom2013 446]

double post

[laeth 527]

Oscar, KDB, Van Ginkel, Ramires doesn't affect Josh, Chalobah and RLC? You guys are even more naive than I thought.

Oscar and KDB would both start for almost any team in the World and would be on their way out if they aren't first choice which means we have to pigeon hole both players there if we want to keep both.

Literally two seconds ago you wanted us to sign a "DLP"; which would do exactly what you want us NOT to do.

[themightyblue 443]

And since when does signing Willian mean we won't sign a striker, even though Jose has said we'll definitely get one! Some deals take much longer than others, with Willian we knew the price Anzhi wanted so we matched it. With Rooney, De Rossi etc we have to negotiate

[Cosmin 2,484]

I think Abramovich hit Tottenham with this move (remember Levy's attitude when we wanted to sign Modric) and Mourinho hit Real Madrid (they won't be able to buy Bale at least for the moment). I think it's a double personal vendetta and I hope that they will be able to manage the consequences.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Good signing , one for pissing off Sp*rs, and two for keeping Luiz happy. They both use the same hair salon

[themightyblue 443]

Oscar, KDB, Van Ginkel, Ramires doesn't affect Josh, Chalobah and RLC? You guys are even more naive than I thought.

Oscar and KDB would both start for almost any team in the World and would be on their way out if they aren't first choice which means we have to pigeon hole both players there if we want to keep both.

So yes Mou would rather play those two deeper rather than the aforementioned players.

Well considering Lamps, Essien, Mikel will likely be on there way out in the next few years, no it won't affect them

[DDA 9,924]

But it does not mean that Mata cannot play there. Look at Ozil. He is not quick but he does a good job when out wide. Mata can do same, despite lacking the pace. Yes, Willian will help us out wide but that is jumping to conclusions to think he is signing William because Mata cannot play out wide.

I didn't actually say that is why Willian was signed but Mata is average out wide. When I look at the Chelsea team I want to see skill, pace and power on the flanks with the genius of Mata in the middle. Then I feel we are capable of beating the likes of Madrid, Barca, Byern ect. Starting with Mata lw, rw against a side like City or Byern you know that flank is pretty much of no use to us throught out the game in terms of attacking directly. In Matas first season we saw that a lot.