Henrique 9,133 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 <br>again you demonstrate your magnificent level of arrogance . all opposing points are weak , The poll which started this thread still shows over 70 %<br>still in favour of Carlo remaining. But of course that 70% know little . Or in your usual words are idiots<br>Im no saying they are idiots, wich is a word that a barely use in this forum, but is used many times to describe me, Im just saying that , maybe these 70% have good points, but not good enough to change mind. Im not willing to change my made only because 70% of the people think otherwise.Im not saying that Carlo must be sacked because I think its the right thing, Im saying that in my fucking opinion, sacking him is the right thing to do. My opinion doesn't mean anything, since Carlo will stay or leave regardless my or your opinion, so I dont know why you get so bitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 idiots is a word youve regularly used to describe those who disagree with you . And I'm not bitter just don't like those who believe their opinions areALWAYS automatically right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Im no saying they are idiots, wich is a word that a barely use in this forum, but is used many times to describe me, Im just saying that , maybe these 70% have good points, but not good enough to change mind. Im not willing to change my made only because 70% of the people think otherwise.Im not saying that Carlo must be sacked because I think its the right thing, Im saying that in my fucking opinion, sacking him is the right thing to do. My opinion doesn't mean anything, since Carlo will stay or leave regardless my or your opinion, so I dont know why you get so bitter.Fair play.And guys all these points from both sides have been repeated over and over again, let's wait and watch what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Fair play.And guys all these points from both sides have been repeated over and over again, let's wait and watch what happens indeed. Im done here. If he stays I would hope he do a good job next season, if he leaves I hope we find the right manager to made us a dominant side for years. We will know his fate soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Ramires was awful signing, right he is not anymore. Right now Torres is a bad signing, I dont know whats going to happen in next years in this career at Chelsea.Im still dont get the Deco thing, it came from nowhere and made me laugh out loud.Thats why we wait and don't jump to conclusions when they first move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We can argue about Carlo,but Roman and the board won't listen.It is much more likely that he is leaving,whether you like it or not.Let's hope for the best whatever(or whoever) that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We can argue about Carlo,but Roman and the board won't listen.It is much more likely that he is leaving,whether you like it or not.Let's hope for the best whatever(or whoever) that is.That's what it's all about.Who we want as a coach, as a player and all this nonsense is just pure speculation. The final decision is made by Roman the man.So let's see what happens.After it happens, then we can critizice if it was a good thing. Weather we wasted our money good on this players, etc etc etc.Other then that, just sit back, get some popcorns, and let everything unfold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 BTW i said it before, and i say it now.If somehow by a miracle, Roman is able to convinve el loco Bielsa to come to Chelsea, then i will vote Carlo out in a heartbeat!Marcelo Bielsa is one of the best coach out there! Better then Mourinho, Better then Carlo, Better then Villa-Boas, and a close second to Guus.Marcelo Bielsa is the man to lead the Chelsea revolution.But knowing the man, i know he will not like to work with Roman.So the chances of that happening, are one in a million. Hence, i don't see any candidate out there better then Carlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hysteria 159 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Marcelo Bielsa is one of the best coach out there! Better then Mourinho, Better then Carlo, Better then Villa-Boas, and a close second to Guus.Marcelo Bielsa is the man to lead the Chelsea revolution.But knowing the man, i know he will not like to work with Roman.So the chances of that happening, are one in a million. Hence, i don't see any candidate out there better then Carlo.I know Bielsa, and i dont know, he maybe never go to Europe, he looks comfortable working at Southamerica. Why do you like him so much? He is doing an amazing work in Chile right now, but do you think that he can be that good in Europe? A lot of managers were amazing in Southamerica and when they went to Europe they fail. (Like Bianchi, he did a fantastic work at Boca Juniors (Boca Juniors won everything in that period) , but when he went to the Atletico, he fail).But yeah, for me Bielsa is a good manager too, but im a little skeptical about him in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ramires was awful signing, right he is not anymore. Right now Torres is a bad signing, I dont know whats going to happen in next years in this career at Chelsea.Im still dont get the Deco thing, it came from nowhere and made me laugh out loud.Umm, 23 yr old in new country new league plays below avg for first couple of months and you tag him an awful signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Umm, 23 yr old in new country new league plays below avg for first couple of months and you tag him an awful signing?Where you been mate Stick around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Can anyone honestly say they've felt confident going into big games this season? Please don't answer with Drogba had malaria.And even going into smaller games ie Everton in the FA cup,it was 50/50 whether we would win or not despite our squad being worth 10 times more than theirs.People on here say that you can't sign superstars and expect them to gel as a team. Then they say we need to sign superstar players to get us playing as a team and winning. Why do Manure play so well with the likes of old man Giggs,Carick,Park etc? I think Roman knows the answer and will act accordingly in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Fair point.But let me ask, are you forgetting about the Financial Fair Play rule??Firing a manager, getting a new one, and then spending more players on top of that, will get us in even deeper losses. We are already at 70 mill losses. So think about how much we will be adding?Nope, I didn't forget. But I don't think to sack Ancelotti will be that prejudicial. Yeah, I mean, we will have to splash £5 million, but Ancelotti is one of the most paid coaches, so I do no think the next manager would have (of course, that's the case if we hire an upcoming manager / an non-hyped manager). For instance, if we hire X for something about £3,5 million on a 3 years contract, then in three years we will have balanced the £5 million we've lost.And to be honest, if there's a mistake made about the Financial Fair Play rule, it is to buy Torres, not sack Ancelotti.In one season? That's impossible.So do you think that Porto play nice football just because AVB is managing them or because he has Moutinho and Belluschi in midfield?I've never said in one season. I know very well that it is impossible to do that in one year, thanks lol. Next season should be the first step. We should start to introduce Kakuta and co in the first team and start to drop Lampard and co. That means the 'old' players (Lampard, Cole, Benayoun, Drogba, etc...) will still have a big role in the team. And then, in two seasons, those 'old' players will start to just have a part time in the team.And no I don't think Porto plays very well juste because Boas is managing them, or because they have Moutinho in midfield. The thing is, Boas has at his disposal the players who suit the way he makes Porto play. Maybe if he didn't have Hulk, Falcao and co Porto wouldn't be that good. But on the other hand, if Porto didn't have Boas, the team wouldn't be so good even with Hulk and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I know Bielsa, and i dont know, he maybe never go to Europe, he looks comfortable working at Southamerica. Why do you like him so much? He is doing an amazing work in Chile right now, but do you think that he can be that good in Europe? A lot of managers were amazing in Southamerica and when they went to Europe they fail. (Like Bianchi, he did a fantastic work at Boca Juniors (Boca Juniors won everything in that period) , but when he went to the Atletico, he fail).But yeah, for me Bielsa is a good manager too, but im a little skeptical about him in Europe.Guus also had a fail season when he managed in la liga.So what's your point???Can anyone honestly say they've felt confident going into big games this season? Please don't answer with Drogba had malaria.And even going into smaller games ie Everton in the FA cup,it was 50/50 whether we would win or not despite our squad being worth 10 times more than theirs.People on here say that you can't sign superstars and expect them to gel as a team. Then they say we need to sign superstar players to get us playing as a team and winning. Why do Manure play so well with the likes of old man Giggs,Carick,Park etc? I think Roman knows the answer and will act accordingly in the summer.Again you only come and take from a manager that has been at the same club for a long time.You have to look at his bad season as well.How did he did his first 3 season at United??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 How did he did his first 3 season at United???You CANNOT compare Man u from the 80's that hadn't won the league in 20 odd years to CFC in 2011 that has recently won the league and has high expectations every year and has spent £100m+ in the last year alone.Besides what Man u did in the 80's has nothing to do with Fergie getting an ageing Giggs and co. looking good against us 3 times in a month and winning the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 You CANNOT compare Man u from the 80's that hadn't won the league in 20 odd years to CFC in 2011 that has recently won the league and has high expectations every year and has spent £100m+ in the last year alone.Besides what Man u did in the 80's has nothing to do with Fergie getting an ageing Giggs and co. looking good against us 3 times in a month and winning the league.So you are saying because we spend so much, we have to do so good???Then how come City who have spend so much then us in the last couple of years, have not done good?Not to mention Real Madrid as well???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 So you are saying because we spend so much, we have to do so good???Then how come City who have spend so much then us in the last couple of years, have not done good?Not to mention Real Madrid as well????No,no pressure at all,just keep spending big in a hope we may win the league but no pressure to do good at all.Mancini is not the best manager rememeber,he still may win them their first trophy for decades and he got them a CL spot so not that bad.Real? Who cares. Anyway,pressure is on them to do good.Forget all them teams,forget how much mancini has spent and how Fergie didn't get sacked over 20 years ago. It's about us,here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 No,no pressure at all,just keep spending big in a hope we may win the league but no pressure to do good at all.Mancini is not the best manager rememeber,he still may win them their first trophy for decades and he got them a CL spot so not that bad.Real? Who cares. Anyway,pressure is on them to do good.Forget all them teams,forget how much mancini has spent and how Fergie didn't get sacked over 20 years ago. It's about us,here and now.Yeah but if you make comparisons, we are not doing much bad!Real Madrid have spent millions, more then us, and yet we managed to do good.SAF took a long time to do good in United, and Mancini will also take some time to do good.While Carlo in two years has outperform much more then these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Yeah but if you make comparisons, we are not doing much bad!Real Madrid have spent millions, more then us, and yet we managed to do good.SAF took a long time to do good in United, and Mancini will also take some time to do good.While Carlo in two years has outperform much more then these.If you compare this season with last though we have gone backwards,even compared to the 03/04 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If you compare this season with last though we have gone backwards,even compared to the 03/04 season.True, but overall, when you judge the two seasons, we have done better then City million spend, then SAF first couple of years, and Real Madrid million spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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