ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 You miss my point. People want signings now, I trust Andre to make the signings he feels we need. ok but we still could do with those signings sooner rather than later. Look at manuer and the dippers! They have basically sourced their squads for next season whereas most of us recognise that there are at least 3 glaringly obvious places that need filled and we aint done that yet. If avb has identified the players we need id hope they would be appointed soon to give the team time to gel and not arrive on the 31st of august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 You miss my point. People want signings now, I trust Andre to make the signings he feels we need.but will we get them? Sanchez was one I really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ok but we still could do with those signings sooner rather than later. Look at manuer and the dippers! They have basically sourced their squads for next season whereas most of us recognise that there are at least 3 glaringly obvious places that need filled and we aint done that yet. If avb has identified the players we need id hope they would be appointed soon to give the team time to gel and not arrive on the 31st of augustOh of course I agree with you there! The sooner the better! All I'm saying is, we have a number of fans who are getting fed up with the club, saying we're falling behind the opposition - we're not, we're just taking our damned time! I have absolute faith in Andre though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ok but we still could do with those signings sooner rather than later. Look at manuer and the dippers! They have basically sourced their squads for next season whereas most of us recognise that there are at least 3 glaringly obvious places that need filled and we aint done that yet. If avb has identified the players we need id hope they would be appointed soon to give the team time to gel and not arrive on the 31st of augustI'd rather see us not sign anyone than spend 50m on those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ok but we still could do with those signings sooner rather than later. Look at manuer and the dippers! They have basically sourced their squads for next season whereas most of us recognise that there are at least 3 glaringly obvious places that need filled and we aint done that yet. If avb has identified the players we need id hope they would be appointed soon to give the team time to gel and not arrive on the 31st of augustexactly the point Ive been making for weeks ...no one in before we play Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 ok but we still could do with those signings sooner rather than later. Look at manuer and the dippers! They have basically sourced their squads for next season whereas most of us recognise that there are at least 3 glaringly obvious places that need filled and we aint done that yet. If avb has identified the players we need id hope they would be appointed soon to give the team time to gel and not arrive on the 31st of augustIt's hardly a great argument.Liverpool have done awful in the window with their finances! Villas-Boas is smart. He's said they are scanning the market all the time looking for the right players at the right time. He's not going to make any panic/rush buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It's hardly a great argument.Liverpool have done awful in the window with their finances! Villas-Boas is smart. He's said they are scanning the market all the time looking for the right players at the right time. He's not going to make any panic/rush buys. but they have still added the players they WANTED to their squad, whether we rate them or not is unimportant. The problem we will have is, as zolayes has just said, we will end up chasing players into the later weeks of august and the team will have no time whatsoever to get to know each other whilst our biggest rivals have signed three or four players early on and are already playing together. Seems like a pretty reasonable arguement to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 but they have still added the players they WANTED to their squad, whether we rate them or not is unimportant. The problem we will have is, as zolayes has just said, we will end up chasing players into the later weeks of august and the team will have no time whatsoever to get to know each other whilst our biggest rivals have signed three or four players early on and are already playing together. Seems like a pretty reasonable arguement to meYet Liverpool have had a manager that had already worked with the squad before the transfer window opened. AVB needs to judge the squad and identify who he wants to keep/where he needs to strengthen. Most of our fans were complaining last year for us not giving enough control to the manager in the transfer market, and now that we have, you want the club to make signings without AVB's approval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yet Liverpool have had a manager that had already worked with the squad before the transfer window opened. AVB needs to judge the squad and identify who he wants to keep/where he needs to strengthen. Most of our fans were complaining last year for us not giving enough control to the manager in the transfer market, and now that we have, you want the club to make signings without AVB's approval? talk about putting words in my mouth! When did i say i wanted the club to sign players without the managers approval, have a read back and tell me where that is! I actually said a few posts back that it should be the managers choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 talk about putting words in my mouth! When did i say i wanted the club to sign players without the managers approval, have a read back and tell me where that is! I actually said a few posts back that it should be the managers choice .Haha. I wasn't talking about you specifically. Calm down. But since you asked; The problem we will have is, as zolayes has just said, we will end up chasing players into the later weeks of august and the team will have no time whatsoever to get to know each other whilst our biggest rivals have signed three or four players early on and are already playing together. Seems like a pretty reasonable arguement to me How do you propose we give AVB time to assess his squad and make new signings without it taking more than 2 weeks of preseason training?You do realise that the club probably had targets before the transfer window opened, and that AVB was probably not the original choice for manager, therefore the targets changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 but they have still added the players they WANTED to their squad, whether we rate them or not is unimportant. The problem we will have is, as zolayes has just said, we will end up chasing players into the later weeks of august and the team will have no time whatsoever to get to know each other whilst our biggest rivals have signed three or four players early on and are already playing together. Seems like a pretty reasonable arguement to meI understand your argument. However you assume that what we see on the face, is true behind closed doors. Maybe negotiations and bids are being taken place and lodged. We know of a few targets we're openly chasing because clubs have chosen to reveal them, however there may be a few more we're completely unaware of. I get your point about time to gel and play together asap. However patience is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Haha. I wasn't talking about you specifically. Calm down. But since you asked; How do you propose we give AVB time to assess his squad and make new signings without it taking more than 2 weeks of preseason training?You do realise that the club probably had targets before the transfer window opened, and that AVB was probably not the original choice for manager, therefore the targets changed. there is no quote! Of course i realise that avb needs to have a look at what he has and im not saying he shouldnt do that or make panic buys. What i am saying is that im pretty sure that he knows where needs strengthening and im also fairly sure he has targets in mind, the fella is renowned for how meticulous he is in his work, all im saying is make the signings sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I understand your argument. However you assume that what we see on the face, is true behind closed doors. Maybe negotiations and bids are being taken place and lodged. We know of a few targets we're openly chasing because clubs have chosen to reveal them, however there may be a few more we're completely unaware of. I get your point about time to gel and play together asap. However patience is key. your 100% right about that and ive made the point before that none of us actually know who will be signed or potentially who we are after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 there is no quote! Of course i realise that avb needs to have a look at what he has and im not saying he shouldnt do that or make panic buys. What i am saying is that im pretty sure that he knows where needs strengthening and im also fairly sure he has targets in mind, the fella is renowned for how meticulous he is in his work, all im saying is make the signings sooner rather than later.There is a quote on my screen.Maybe 'approval' was the wrong choice of word on my half. I meant that if a signing isn't an AVB signing, it is a club signing (for example Torres), and wouldn't necessarily be a player AVB wanted/asked for, which could essentially lead to more problems. We have to compromise, we can't expect the manager to sign targets so quickly. We're always involved in a long, drawn-out saga.I'm sure AVB has identified the type of players he needs and that the club could have even made distant enquiries about players, that doesn't necessarily mean a bid has been placed, but if a club knows Chelsea are interested, chances are they would want to wait until we confirm interest as it would only drive the value of their player upwards. He has already said there will be no radical changes, and that he wants to get the best out of the players we currently have. People expecting a radical overhaul will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Just to add:Comparisons to Liverpool are redundant anyway. Many of the players we are 'linked' with and are apparently interested in are in demand by various clubs across Europe, between many of the most powerful clubs on the continent. Transfers like this are always going to take longer due to the complexities of the player/agent's situation, where as players like Charlie Adam (domestic) transfers could be completed much more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Sanchez Fee Agreed with Barcelona Lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I will now live in denial that he wasn't good enough for us anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Missing out on both Sanchez and Aguero.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Messi, Villa, Pedro, Sanchez - Drogba, Kalou, Malouda, Anelka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Messi, Villa, Pedro, Sanchez - Drogba, Kalou, Malouda, AnelkaThe difference is as clear as daylight. . . . to add to that.Real madrid- C.Ronaldo, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema,HiguainMan utd- Chicharito,Rooney,Berbatov,Nani,ValenciaYet Lampard and other delusional folks thinks our current squad is competitive enough. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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