Neymar

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

And then he added 3 more goals vs a woeful Las Palmas team. Many of them tap-ins in the box and some penalties as well.  Add to the fact he's not exactly a player that elevates the level of his teammates, overdribbles, runs into blind alleys, is an extreme individualist and is very inconsistent for a "global superstar" PSG have been duped. Messi is the one who does all the heavy lifting for Barcelona.That type of money is just totally unjustified for any footballer. It's scandalous and makes me a bit disillusioned with the game I grew up loving. The only way I can contemplate paying that is for a 20 year old Messi. With the added cavaeat that Messi is able to replicate exactly what he's done for Barcelona over the years. 

[Thor 2,745]

We should have bid 5 million more than PSG to get this done. Can't believe how incompetent the board is. We were so close. 

[xPetrCechx 13,582]

Saw some rumors that he was close to join us before he chose PSG...

[DDA 9,985]

3 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Saw some rumors that he was close to join us before he chose PSG...

Apparently Roman was very interested in bringing him here but a close advisor persuaded him not to go ahead with the persuit.

[xPetrCechx 13,582]

17 minutes ago, DDA said:

Apparently Roman was very interested in bringing him here but a close advisor persuaded him not to go ahead with the persuit.

Close advisor... emenalo?

Interesting why not...

[Henrique 9,133]

I dont undertand why Neymar move is creating buzz about FFP. City already spent 220m this season (more than PSG) for players Like Kyle Walker, Danilo and Bernardo Silva, not mention that we paid 140m for Morata, Bakayoko and Rudiger. 

Weird that people are saying Neymar's price is insane when we paid 70 for Morata and United even more for Romulen.

[DDA 9,985]

56 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Close advisor... emenalo?

Interesting why not...

Because Neymar would become a dejected figure playing in the PL. He would be showered by his own tears once Shawcross starts abusing him.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

13 minutes ago, DDA said:

Because Neymar would become a dejected figure playing in the PL. He would be showered by his own tears once Shawcross starts abusing him.

Yes because David Silva and even our little own Hazard are struggling in the monstrous PL. 

Let's be honest, Neymar has tolerated the Brazilian league and they're not any better than the prem. He would tear this league a new one. 

In fact it's this emphasis on physicality and less of it on technique and actual talent that is failing this league in Europe.

[DDA 9,985]

1 hour ago, Hybrid Angel said:

Yes because David Silva and even our little own Hazard are struggling in the monstrous PL. 

Let's be honest, Neymar has tolerated the Brazilian league and they're not any better than the prem. He would tear this league a new one. 

In fact it's this emphasis on physicality and less of it on technique and actual talent that is failing this league in Europe.

I definitely agree with your criticism of the PL. I think to have a realistic chance of winning the PL and the CL, you need to find the right blend of physicality and technicality within the squad. It's the philosophy in which we apply to our football that is holding us back in Europe, starting from grass roots level up. It will be interesting to see how Pep gets on in the PL now he has the squad he desired. 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Neymar to PSG Transfer to Undergo UEFA Financial Fair Play Investigation

According to Spanish news agency EFE (h/t Sport), UEFA released a statement regarding the deal: 

"All clubs in Europe must respect financial fair-play rules and must demonstrate that they do not have losses of more than €30 million over three years.
 
"As part of the continuous monitoring of clubs under financial fair play regulations, UEFA will look into the details of this transfer in due course to ensure PSG are compliant with FFP requirements.
 
"The transfer of Neymar to PSG will have an effect on the club finances over several years but the impact of such an operation cannot be judged in advance, notably as PSG could well sell several players for a significant amount.
 
"We shall therefore only make calculations at the end and make sure that they respect the rules."

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Not sure about City. But our case certainly different than PSG, even if we spent the same amount as Neymar release clause (which we haven't yet), we have sell tons of players, got new sponsor, prize money from winning the league, etc.

We are okay to spent that amount, while obviously PSG are not okay to spent that much, without selling. Hence UEFA will launch an investigation for it. FFP is real and isn't a joke. Once again our condition are totally different than PSG.

[xPetrCechx 13,582]

8 hours ago, DDA said:

Because Neymar would become a dejected figure playing in the PL. He would be showered by his own tears once Shawcross starts abusing him.

No?...

[Jype 6,398]

8 hours ago, Henrique said:

I dont undertand why Neymar move is creating buzz about FFP. City already spent 220m this season (more than PSG) for players Like Kyle Walker, Danilo and Bernardo Silva, not mention that we paid 140m for Morata, Bakayoko and Rudiger. 

Weird that people are saying Neymar's price is insane when we paid 70 for Morata and United even more for Romulen.

Mate it's not just the transfer fee, you need to look at the numbers beyond the €222M fee to understand why people think PSG won't comply with FFP. The transfer fee, signing on bonuses, agent fees and most importantly the player's wages all combined make up for a pretty hefty total sum and on their books it will show as around €100M per year with all costs amortized over the contract. He's being paid almost a million euros per week before taxes for crying out loud, that's absolutely bizarre.

To put these figures into context, the previous world record breaking transfer in Paul Pogba costs altogether maybe around €30-35M a year on the books at Manchester United so the numbers we're talking about with Neymar are a completely new territory in world football. You can't compare just the transfer fees and say City spent a lot of money too because by doing that City have pretty much completed their squad and filled all positions of need. The total costs of their five new signings won't even remotely touch Neymar's figures.

And also at Chelsea the books have been well balanced with player sales, amounting to around €120M even before the impending sale of Diego Costa. Maybe paying €70M for Morata was somewhat overpriced as far as the transfer fee goes but his total costs for the club will be less than a quarter of a Neymar so while he may not be even remotely as good a player it still allows the club to stay within a healthy financial status and keeps the wage budget in line. If it were Chelsea getting Neymar at €900K a week how long do you think it would take for players like Eden Hazard, who's on less than €200K a week, to knock on Abramovich's door and ask for at least triple his current salary? What PSG have done is simply not sustainable in the long term.

Also PSG weren't exactly in clear waters with FFP to begin with, so lavishing out €100M a year book costs on a single player won't help them at all. My guess would be that they just don't give a fuck because they know UEFA will never ban a team with Neymar in it from competing in the Champions League and if it's just multi-million fines that they get for breaking FFP there's plenty of money in Qatar to pay it with.

[Arlen Correa 161]

On 03/08/2017 at 11:06 PM, MrExcalibur100 said:

And then he added 3 more goals vs a woeful Las Palmas team. Many of them tap-ins in the box and some penalties as well.  Add to the fact he's not exactly a player that elevates the level of his teammates, overdribbles, runs into blind alleys, is an extreme individualist and is very inconsistent for a "global superstar" PSG have been duped. Messi is the one who does all the heavy lifting for Barcelona.That type of money is just totally unjustified for any footballer. It's scandalous and makes me a bit disillusioned with the game I grew up loving. The only way I can contemplate paying that is for a 20 year old Messi. With the added cavaeat that Messi is able to replicate exactly what he's done for Barcelona over the years. 

I remember at some point in the end of the last season Neymar had more chances created than Messi and Suarez in all competitions and was doing the work of the entire midfield in terms of attack.

If you watch Neymar in the NT, when he can play with freedom,  you can see how good he is.

Watch Brazil x Argentina in the South American qualify and take your conclusions.

Neymar in 4 games in the World Cup scored 1 goals less than Messsi in 12 games.

Messi can decide any game against any team, but only if the situation do not become a war.

He doesnt have nerves for a war. In his NT he only play well against small sides.

He's a club-level-player. 

Even Coutinho is better than Messi at NT-level.

A player who is only good on an environment where everything exist to support him should not be hailed so high.

The day when Messi starts deciding games against top NTs, like Neymar always does, i'll agree with your post.

 

[Chelsea4 1,521]

Neymar has lost possession 19 times againts Guingamp 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Neymar has lost possession 19 times againts Guingamp 

I saw about 10 minutes of the game...what a fucking disgrace Neymar and Di Maria falling and faking fouls every 5 seconds...

It was guingamp...Ronaldinho would dribble their entire squad, not throw himself on the ground every second.

[The Skipper 20,609]

On 05/08/2017 at 10:21 AM, Jype said:

Mate it's not just the transfer fee, you need to look at the numbers beyond the €222M fee to understand why people think PSG won't comply with FFP. The transfer fee, signing on bonuses, agent fees and most importantly the player's wages all combined make up for a pretty hefty total sum and on their books it will show as around €100M per year with all costs amortized over the contract. He's being paid almost a million euros per week before taxes for crying out loud, that's absolutely bizarre.

To put these figures into context, the previous world record breaking transfer in Paul Pogba costs altogether maybe around €30-35M a year on the books at Manchester United so the numbers we're talking about with Neymar are a completely new territory in world football. You can't compare just the transfer fees and say City spent a lot of money too because by doing that City have pretty much completed their squad and filled all positions of need. The total costs of their five new signings won't even remotely touch Neymar's figures.

And also at Chelsea the books have been well balanced with player sales, amounting to around €120M even before the impending sale of Diego Costa. Maybe paying €70M for Morata was somewhat overpriced as far as the transfer fee goes but his total costs for the club will be less than a quarter of a Neymar so while he may not be even remotely as good a player it still allows the club to stay within a healthy financial status and keeps the wage budget in line. If it were Chelsea getting Neymar at €900K a week how long do you think it would take for players like Eden Hazard, who's on less than €200K a week, to knock on Abramovich's door and ask for at least triple his current salary? What PSG have done is simply not sustainable in the long term.

Also PSG weren't exactly in clear waters with FFP to begin with, so lavishing out €100M a year book costs on a single player won't help them at all. My guess would be that they just don't give a fuck because they know UEFA will never ban a team with Neymar in it from competing in the Champions League and if it's just multi-million fines that they get for breaking FFP there's plenty of money in Qatar to pay it with.

Excellent post man, needed back on the forum more often. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

On 05/08/2017 at 5:29 AM, RoyalBlues said:

Not sure about City. But our case certainly different than PSG, even if we spent the same amount as Neymar release clause (which we haven't yet), we have sell tons of players, got new sponsor, prize money from winning the league, etc.

We are okay to spent that amount, while obviously PSG are not okay to spent that much, without selling. Hence UEFA will launch an investigation for it. FFP is real and isn't a joke. Once again our condition are totally different than PSG.

I hope uefa's statement will shut the press up about this transfer being investigated under FFP. No individual move will, or can, be looked into. All that can be looked into is a club's financial results as a whole.

In that light, it is not accurate to say UEFA will launch an investigation into that transfer. What they will do is investigate PSG's accounts for this season (probably to be published about January 2019) and assess the results under their three year rule. Nor will that investigation be specific to PSG. They will examine the books of all clubs which are subject to FFP regulations. In that regard it will be a routine check, not a special one.

Of course we will be one of the clubs whose books are audited. It is not sufficient to list our revenues and announce our spending ability on the strength of them. It is our profitability which will be scrutinised, and that means revenues must be compared to costs. For example, our wage bill alone is way more than the Premier League TV money and the Nike deal combined. It even consumes most of the Yokohama cash too.

I'm not suggesting that the amortised cost of this summer's spending puts us at risk of falling FFP, I don't think it does, I'm just making the point that we can't look at revenues in isolation.

[termninja 5,290]

21 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

I saw about 10 minutes of the game...what a fucking disgrace Neymar and Di Maria falling and faking fouls every 5 seconds...

It was guingamp...Ronaldinho would dribble their entire squad, not throw himself on the ground every second.

Makes me so sad that these days grow up looking up to tiny wankers with fancy haircuts like Neymar and Justin Bieber...

[Blusan Alamb 295]