🇧🇷 Ramires

[Eligius 121]

OKKKKK. Are you implying that Jose needs mercenaries on his team? . Cause that ain't the case. Mata and KDB were sold cause they are "nice" guys or cause they don't fit his system of playing?

You wanna compare the tension in the top rival game in the world to a match between chelsea and villa? Mate come on

Jose needs fighters on his team.

If Mata and KDB were fighters, they would still be at Chelsea FC.

Their was never that much tension in el clasico especially to the Mourinho level. You wonder why this season, their is no tension in el clasico...

[Jase 43,479]

Jose needs fighters on his team.

If Mata and KDB were fighters, they would still be at Chelsea FC.

Their was never that much tension in el clasico especially to the Mourinho level. You wonder why this season, their is no tension in el clasico...

Really, not sure why people still go on with that about Mata and De Bruyne not being fighters and fight for their place in the team. They did try to fight and get in there, especially in Mata's case but the fact is, they are not suited to Mourinho's demands and system and they want to be playing week in week out, which is something that you can't really blame them on. Those 2 factors and the fact that we got good bids for them were the reasons why we sold them.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Jose needs fighters on his team.

If Mata and KDB were fighters, they would still be at Chelsea FC.

Their was never that much tension in el clasico especially to the Mourinho level. You wonder why this season, their is no tension in el clasico...

Mate you seriously need to know the difference between being tough, physical, a cunt, and being just a bluntly dirty player. You are mixing things up. Got no more to say

[Eligius 121]

Mate you seriously need to know the difference between being tough, physical, a cunt, and being just a bluntly dirty player. You are mixing things up. Got no more to say

So, Ramos, Pepe and Khedira weren't those?

Also, we should probably look at all the people that supported the diego costa transfer and see how hypocritical they are.

Also, Jose didn't comment on both red cards to Willian and Ramires. Not that he believes it was a red card.

[The only place to be 11,313]

So, Ramos, Pepe and Khedira weren't those?

Also, we should probably look at all the people that supported the diego costa transfer and see how hypocritical they are.

Hypocritical definitely. You can be a cunt, but if you're a great player then supporters will overlook it.

Ramires crime is being a cunt and not very good at football. If he was Xavi and did that then no-one would care.

Hypocrisy, it's fantastic!

[Eligius 121]

Hypocritical definitely. You can be a cunt, but if you're a great player then supporters will overlook it.

Ramires crime is being a cunt and not very good at football. If he was Xavi and did that then no-one would care.

Hypocrisy, it's fantastic!

And when Costa does that same in big games, what will you say than?

You guys should of read the Liverpool forum when Suarez got suspended... they were throwing out stats on how we don't need him anymore, we are better without him, etc, etc. Guess all those brits are fickle minded and changed their views in a snap.

Funny thing is no one is really talking about it.... Usually when our players do that, other message boards fill up with nonsense about our players, but for this incident, it's pretty quiet.

[The only place to be 11,313]

And when Costa does that same in big games, what will you say than?

Depends on how many goals he's scored, how much we need him, stuff like that.

You're asking for my level of hypocrisy in a hypothetical.

[didierforever 7,349]

Ramires the stupid and the non-footballer has a CL medal and plays for the 4th team in the world while being a massive part of the plans of the world's best manager's system.

Costa the cunt has had one decent season and plays for the second best team in madrid itself.

Well just goes on to show that sometimes idiocy can go hand In hand with hypocrisy

[Eligius 121]

Anyways, I think it is unfair to conclude ramires did it deliberately.

Watching the replay in different angles, shows the play differently. Only person that will know if it was deliberate is Ramires.

[The Chels 2,502]

At least for the next 3 (or more possibly) PL games we will have a technically able midfielder in Luiz/Lampard alongside Matic. I won't be surpised if Ramires' absence results in better performances, particularly in the 2 games after the next, Crystal Palace and Stoke, in which we will likely be having to break down a deep-lying defence.

[robsblubot 3,595]

At least for the next 3 (or more possibly) PL games we will have a technically able midfielder in Luiz/Lampard alongside Matic. I won't be surpised if Ramires' absence results in better performances, particularly in the 2 games after the next, Crystal Palace and Stoke, in which we will likely be having to break down a deep-lying defence.

heh if he gets like 5 games were are fucked. He's the only pace we've got in the CM position.

but I do get the point on the breaking a deep-lying defense.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

We had Rambo and Lamps/Mikel for the pivot last two years. Only Rambo was on good level and we needed to buy another CM. As soon as we buy Matic, Ramires becomes bad. Whats next? We sign new CM and Matic starts playing like shit or what?

Ramires, Willian, Oscar need to put shit together. Simple as that. Mourinho is underestimating their skill, gives them too much defensive work or sth, we are toothless in attack ever since City PL game, bar Hazard.

[Jase 43,479]

We had Rambo and Lamps/Mikel for the pivot last two years. Only Rambo was on good level and we needed to buy another CM. As soon as we buy Matic, Ramires becomes bad. Whats next? We sign new CM and Matic starts playing like shit or what?

Ramires, Willian, Oscar need to put shit together. Simple as that. Mourinho is underestimating their skill, gives them too much defensive work or sth, we are toothless in attack ever since City PL game, bar Hazard.

We have generally always looked toothless or non-threatening and it has gone on for quite awhile now. We only had joy in our attack in that City game because there were spaces and gaps for us to attack which most player would enjoy and flourish in. Otherwise, we looked clueless in how to break down opposition's defence when they come to sit deep and defend only.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

We have generally always looked toothless or non-threatening and it has gone on for quite awhile now. We only had joy in our attack in that City game because there were spaces and gaps for us to attack which most player would enjoy and flourish in. Otherwise, we looked clueless in how to break down opposition's defence when they come to sit deep and defend only.

And I fear this wont drasticaly improve with only new striker Im afraid. Willian and Oscar will have to take massive boost next season in order to remain starters under Mou. On other hand, I blame Mou a bit for his lack of attacking tactics. Its like he doesnt know we actualy have very good players in attack and he thinks we can only win with strong defence. However, if he gave our attackers more freedom, we would certainly win at least one game vs AV, WBA or WHU.

Mou has limited our attackers this year (bar Hazard) and this is seen in games vs smaller teams. Willian was never scoring goals in previous clubs, but he created many chances, Oscar had to work his socks off for first half of season and possibly saw that he will get destroyed before WC and simply decided to work less. Partly its down to players form, lack of competition and WC comming, but also due to Mou tactics. He never allows his players to play free and this has cost us several times this season.

[DoubleO 192]

Rami always gets these kinds of performances 2-5 times per season, usually when we are losing. He losts his mind and starts to hurt the opponent, and usually gets the red card. He also played a big part when they scored.....

I hate footballers who try to hurt the opponent, I think it's just sick and shows that you have no respect to other players. I'm really ashamed of Ramires and fortunately I don't have to watch him playing for a few rounds...

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I don't think he meant lunge in and hurt the player. I think he was trying to win the ball, but he extended his foot and showed his studs which equates to a straight red in this climate. Seen far worse go unpunished, tbh.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I don't think he meant lunge in and hurt the player. I think he was trying to win the ball, but he extended his foot and showed his studs which equates to a straight red in this climate. Seen far worse go unpunished, tbh.

It was a leg breaker, it was intentional, it was disgraceful.

I don't know if he's a nasty player or if he's just reckless to the point of stupidity but it's not something you want to see Chelsea players doing.

Maybe he'll stick around though. Maybe he is a Jose-type player. Maybe last night was the type of thing Jose wants from his players. Personally I'd like to see us go for a midfielder who has the defensive qualities we need but is also comfortable with the ball.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

It was a leg breaker, it was intentional, it was disgraceful.

I don't know if he's a nasty player or if he's just reckless to the point of stupidity but it's not something you want to see Chelsea players doing.

Maybe he'll stick around though. Maybe he is a Jose-type player. Maybe last night was the type of thing Jose wants from his players. Personally I'd like to see us go for a midfielder who has the defensive qualities we need but is also comfortable with the ball.

I just think the bloke is clumsy as fuck, to be honest. I don't think there is a malicious bone in his body.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I just think the bloke is clumsy as fuck, to be honest. I don't think there is a malicious bone in his body.

I don't know if I agree, but at the end of the day the result is the same. If he was putting in the performances then maybe some of this stuff would be overlooked but he's not been doing that.

If Jose persists with him then we're going to become a team that is unambitious on the pitch, looking to stifle matches and nick a winner one the counter or from an opposition mistake. Hopefully we'll look to get someone in that midfield who is more ambitious, more creative and we'll look to control games.

Will be interesting to see just how many games he gets. Three games and he's a lucky boy.

[Styles 9,790]

69% pass accuracy, just another normal night for Ramires.

Frustrating is an understatement.