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I do think that Hiddink legacy is bigger than many people think...I've seen Carlo receiving the credits for many things that Guus have done.

1- Playing Drogba alongside Anelka: few people believed that both could play together, but since Guus' first game against Aston Villa it was proved to be a lie. They played really good during the dutch ternure.

2- Playing Ivanovic as a right back: Ancelotti did not discovered the serbian as a good right back...Guus did. It was in the first leg against Liverpool that he played in this position and scored two goals. Any other manager would have chosen Paulo Ferreira...before that match Ivanovic was likely to leave in the end of season whitout been noticed.

3- Rediscovered Malouda: again many people say that Malouda started to play well during this season...another lie. He started playing well since Guus arrived. He say in this interview that Hiddink was really important for him: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=785358&sec=england&root=england&cc=3888.

Like Ivanovic, everybody tought that his days at Stamford Bridge were numbered but due his superb end of season he stayed and everybody knew he was going to be a really important player for Chelsea this season.

4- Showed to the world that Chelsea squad was still good enough to win major trophies: before Hiddink, many people said that Chelsea squad didnt aged well, I bet my money that many Chelsea's fan tought the same. Since Guus arrived, Chelsea got the same points that United, humiliated Liverpool in Europe and should have been in CL final...I dont forget the FA Cup glory.

Guus Hiddink deserves the credits for the succes of this season, he resolved one hundred of problems that we had here. When the italian arrived he found a squad with good prospecs of succes...without him Carlo would probably have been sacked after 2 months...Hiddink is one of the best manager that this world have ever seen.

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I do think that Hiddink legacy is bigger than many people think...I've seen Carlo receiving the credits for many things that Guus have done.

1- Playing Drogba alongside Anelka: few people believed that both could play together, but since Guus' first game against Aston Villa it was proved to be a lie. They played really good during the dutch ternure.

2- Playing Ivanovic as a right back: Ancelotti did not discovered the serbian as a good right back...Guus did. It was in the first leg against Liverpool that he played in this position and scored two goals. Any other manager would have chosen Paulo Ferreira...before that match Ivanovic was likely to leave in the end of season whitout been noticed.

3- Rediscovered Malouda: again many people say that Malouda started to play well during this season...another lie. He started playing well since Guus arrived. He say in this interview that Hiddink was really important for him: http://soccernet.esp...ngland&cc=3888.

Like Ivanovic, everybody tought that his days at Stamford Bridge were numbered but due his superb end of season he stayed and everybody knew he was going to be a really important player for Chelsea this season.

4- Showed to the world that Chelsea squad was still good enough to win major trophies: before Hiddink, many people said that Chelsea squad didnt aged well, I bet my money that many Chelsea's fan tought the same. Since Guus arrived, Chelsea got the same points that United, humiliated Liverpool in Europe and should have been in CL final...I dont forget the FA Cup glory.

Guus Hiddink deserves the credits for the succes of this season, he resolved one hundred of problems that we had here. When the italian arrived he found a squad with good prospecs of succes...without him Carlo would probably have been sacked after 2 months...Hiddink is one of the best manager that this world have ever seen.

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I do think that Hiddink legacy is bigger than many people think...I've seen Carlo receiving the credits for many things that Guus have done.

1- Playing Drogba alongside Anelka: few people believed that both could play together, but since Guus' first game against Aston Villa it was proved to be a lie. They played really good during the dutch ternure.

2- Playing Ivanovic as a right back: Ancelotti did not discovered the serbian as a good right back...Guus did. It was in the first leg against Liverpool that he played in this position and scored two goals. Any other manager would have chosen Paulo Ferreira...before that match Ivanovic was likely to leave in the end of season whitout been noticed.

3- Rediscovered Malouda: again many people say that Malouda started to play well during this season...another lie. He started playing well since Guus arrived. He say in this interview that Hiddink was really important for him: http://soccernet.esp...ngland&cc=3888.

Like Ivanovic, everybody tought that his days at Stamford Bridge were numbered but due his superb end of season he stayed and everybody knew he was going to be a really important player for Chelsea this season.

4- Showed to the world that Chelsea squad was still good enough to win major trophies: before Hiddink, many people said that Chelsea squad didnt aged well, I bet my money that many Chelsea's fan tought the same. Since Guus arrived, Chelsea got the same points that United, humiliated Liverpool in Europe and should have been in CL final...I dont forget the FA Cup glory.

Guus Hiddink deserves the credits for the succes of this season, he resolved one hundred of problems that we had here. When the italian arrived he found a squad with good prospecs of succes...without him Carlo would probably have been sacked after 2 months...Hiddink is one of the best manager that this world have ever seen.

Sure, Hiddink deserves some credit for what he has done. But you must be bonkers to say he, more or less, has won us the championship this year <_<

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Guus deserves credit for saving our season last year by winning us the FA Cup and therefore a speck of respectability.

However he deserves no credit for our success this season besides giving us the foothold with which we've used as a catalyst for glory.

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Well than you have to say that we owe this championship to Mourinho who brought us a lot of players from our current squad and kicked us from CL this year so that we could win PL...

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Sure, Hiddink deserves some credit for what he has done. But you must be bonkers to say he, more or less, has won us the championship this year <_<

I did not said that...I said that Guus Hiddink made the job easier to Carlo. and he deserves the credits for the things that I pointed...wich were really important to the success this season...if you understood that I said he has won us the championship this year then...:fainthv9:

nor I said that he was responsible for the Premier League glory...

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Have to echo what has been said already, yes Guus did fantastic for us last season and deserves a lot of credit for that, however this season has no relevance on Guus at all...

A similar post was posted after the league win about how the team doesn't have the same spirit as under Jose.

We have just won the double for the first time in our history, lets give Carlo the biggest amount of respect possible without trying to detract from what he has done for us at a time of massive celebration.

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I did not said that...I said that Guus Hiddink made the job easier to Carlo. and he deserves the credits for the things that I pointed...wich were really important to the success this season...if you understood that I said he has won us the championship this year then...:fainthv9:

nor I said that he was responsible for the Premier League glory...

I honestly think Ancelotti wasn't really bothered about what Hiddink did or didn't do with Chelsea. And about the championship; Malouda, Ivanovic, Anelka and Drogba (a.k.a all the players you mention), have all played a pretty big part in our title race didn't they?

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carlo is the reason we have won the double, he is a winner.

he has won the champions league twice for fuck sake, open your eyes and realise the type of manager we have here. Anyone who even takes 0.1% of the credit away from carlo for this season needs to be shot.

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I honestly think Ancelotti wasn't really bothered about what Hiddink did or didn't do with Chelsea. And about the championship; Malouda, Ivanovic, Anelka and Drogba (a.k.a all the players you mention), have all played a pretty big part in our title race didn't they?

Yeah, but Hiddink improved Malouda, Ivanovic and proved that Anelka and Drogba must play together...but dont get me wrong...I did not said that Hiddink was THE ONE...I said that we have to think that his legacy still carry on so does Mourinho's.

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Drogba and Anelka are our two best strikers, so the chances of them playing together is pretty high.

It was common knowledge when we signed Ivanovic that he can and has played RB at his previous clubs and the national team.

As for Malouda, I think its just a case o him finding his feet at Chelsea rather than Hiddink unearthing his talent.

This season is all about Ancelotti.

If you use your logic, you could say that Ranieri made Mourinhos job easier by already putting together a pretty decent side for him to work with.

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Drogba and Anelka are our two best strikers, so the chances of them playing together is pretty high.

It was common knowledge when we signed Ivanovic that he can and has played RB at his previous clubs and the national team.

As for Malouda, I think its just a case o him finding his feet at Chelsea rather than Hiddink unearthing his talent.

This season is all about Ancelotti.

If you use your logic, you could say that Ranieri made Mourinhos job easier by already putting together a pretty decent side for him to work with.

And Ranieri did it...when Mourinho arrived Chelsea was aready a Champions League side...and finished as runner-up the previous season...do you really believe that if Mourinho arrives now at Manchester City he will make them champions next season?

People talk about Mourinho as if he have done magic, assuming a poor side and transforming them in kings of England. Thats not fair.

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And Ranieri did it...when Mourinho arrived Chelsea was aready a Champions League side...and finished as runner-up the previous season...do you really believe that if Mourinho arrives now at Manchester City he will make them champions next season?

People talk about Mourinho as if he have done magic, assuming a poor side and transforming them in kings of England. Thats not fair.

Simple answer....No.

But there's a difference between City of now and Chelsea pre-Mourinho. We were winning trophies every other year before he arrived. City havent won anything worth talking about for 30 odd years.

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Simple answer....No.

But there's a difference between City of now and Chelsea pre-Mourinho. We were winning trophies every other year before he arrived. City havent won anything worth talking about for 30 odd years.

Yeh, but you got my point...of course that Mourinho was the reason Chelsea become succesful during his ternure, but he found a pretty decent side, thanks to Ranieri...Guus deserves some credits in that level.

If Mourinho had found a poor side when he arrived, Chelsea would not have won back to back Premier Leagues that easy.

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Yeh, but you got my point...of course that Mourinho was the reason Chelsea become succesful during his ternure, but he found a pretty decent side, thanks to Ranieri...Guus deserves some credits in that level.

If Mourinho had found a poor side when he arrived, Chelsea would not have won back to back Premier Leagues that easy.

Did I ?

Hiddink was here for a few months and all he done imo was brought a togetherness to the squad that was shot to pieces under Scolari. Ancelotti brought in 3 players who have made little impact this season in Turnbull, Zhirkov and Sturridge. So he's basically working with the same players Hiddink and Scolari had before him.

I'm not undermining what Hiddink done for Chelsea during his short spell, what I do think is that you're giving him too much credit and undermining what Ancelotti has achieved. Ancelotti is not a fresh face as far as managers are concerned. He's been there and got the t-shirt several times.

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