Predator 114 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I think you all misunderstood me, what I meant by failed career is the way he captained Germany twice into a final, and into the final with leverkusen.Overall as a player, Ballack was amazing, but as most Bayern fans, I will always hold a grudge against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 marko marin new robben; you heard it here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator 114 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 marko marin new robben; you heard it here firstand last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I was going to carry on a discussion about what is failure but noticed your age, You werent born when Ballackstarted his career, Just how much have you seen of him.Well he is on the "Youth Team" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I think you all misunderstood me, what I meant by failed career is the way he captained Germany twice into a final, and into the final with leverkusen.Overall as a player, Ballack was amazing, but as most Bayern fans, I will always hold a grudge against him.I think you meant he underachieved. His career was not a failure in any way and he gave a lot to German football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri 115 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I think you meant he underachieved. His career was not a failure in any way and he gave a lot to German football.Yep, I prefer 'underachieved' to 'failed'. He had no luck with the finals, it was not only up to him to win them. If Cech, Lampard, Terry or Drogba finish their careers without a major trophy (by major I mean everything above domestic titles), they will have underachieved too, but I wouldn't consider them failures.Hell, Drogba hasn't even won the ACON with a strong team, bottling 2 finals in the process. We could call Didier our "jynxed one". Hopefully he'll change that in 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Yep, I prefer 'underachieved' to 'failed'. He had no luck with the finals, it was not only up to him to win them. If Cech, Lampard, Terry or Drogba finish their careers without a major trophy (by major I mean everything above domestic titles), they will have underachieved too, but I wouldn't consider them failures.Hell, Drogba hasn't even won the ACON with a strong team, bottling 2 finals in the process. We could call Didier our "jynxed one".He did have to play an immensely strong side in Egypt in the first losing final, though. I reckon we could have seen the first African WC semi finalist if Egypt had qualified for the Germany World Cup. So organised, they were pretty good in the 2009 Confederations Cup as well, from memory they beat Italy and gave Brazil a run for their money, but messed it all up by getting smashed by the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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