Laylabelle 9,535 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yeah agree that was the issue in the past players be forced on..with high price tags and due to that the Manager feels the need to have to play them despite how well they do.The Manager end of the day should have main input.They are the ones who work close with the players,can see what areas need strengthing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 See I'm a strong believer that the coach should be buying the playersIm some instances that's not wise, would you let Kenny Dalglish or Rafa Benitez have control of £150m, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Im some instances that's not wise, would you let Kenny Dalglish or Rafa Benitez have control of £150m, for example.Rafa Benitez transfers was not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Rafa Benitez transfers was not that bad.There were some good one's, but for one Xavi Alonso there were a group like Degan, Nunez and N Gog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 There were some good one's, but for one Xavi Alonso there were a group like Degan, Nunez and N Gog.Well tbf he didn't have the greatest financial backing from G&H, so he had to sign 2nd tier players. But no doubt he had some bad ones. But nowhere near as bad asKenny Dalglish. I actually like Rafa mainly because of his time at Valencia, maybe one of the few among Chelsea supporters who rates him as a manager.I think he has the same problem as AVB, poor players management and far worse with handling the media.Anyway i rather have the board and a group make the transfer decisions, as long as they have a clear philosophy and bring in managers who share the same views.It is much easier to have stability that way, then bring in players by different managers with completely different tactics and philosophy.Barcelona is the best way to run a club, i don't mean to replicate their playing style. But the fact they have kept that playing style and philosophy for decades. So i would like to see us take a similar approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Well tbf he didn't have the greatest financial backing from G&H, so he had to sign 2nd tier players. But no doubt he had some bad ones. But nowhere near as bad asKenny Dalglish. I actually like Rafa mainly because of his time at Valencia, maybe one of the few among Chelsea supporters who rates him as a manager.As a manager I do rate his tactical knowledge. It's his policy of running players into the abyss, till they can run no more & rushing them back from injuries that makes me doubt him a lot. He's not very good when it comes to making tactical substitutions, but he's not as bad as people make out.Obviously I wouldn't want him here cause of his battles with Mourinho, his Liverpool past etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 As a manager I do rate his tactical knowledge. It's his policy of running players into the abyss, till they can run no more & rushing them back from injuries that makes me doubt him a lot. He's not very good when it comes to making tactical substitutions, but he's not as bad as people make out.Obviously I wouldn't want him here cause of his battles with Mourinho, his Liverpool past etc. TBF how come Rafa isn't employed today??? If he was soo damn good he would have had a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Rafa's boardroom power struggles are his worst aspect, to make a back me or sack me demand to Morratti while he was taking a team that won 5 previous title's to 7th beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Im some instances that's not wise, would you let Kenny Dalglish or Rafa Benitez have control of £150m, for example.Im some instances that's not wise, would you let Kenny Dalglish or Rafa Benitez have control of £150m, for example.Then at least we can then say its the managers fault for signing sub-par players. I don't believe there is enough space for a football director and a manager to be honest and neither did Mourinho. I think if we are to fairly judge RDM then he must have the full power like Fergie has had at Man Utd for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Matt Lewis @mattlewis27 Chelsea have called a press conference for Wednesday morning at 11am. RDM will be answering Qs as full-time boss for the first time. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hazard, Marin and KDB are going to be unveilled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hazard, Marin and KDB are going to be unveilled?Tomorrow is likely to be just for Robbie and rightfully so - he deserves his own day in the spotlight.Last season they dripfed new signings to the media a few days after they started training. So I expect Chelsea to hold individual press conferences for each over the next couple of weeks. They may well be presented whilst on our US tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Then at least we can then say its the managers fault for signing sub-par players.Then it could be too late, Kenny's piss poor signing's have set Liverpool back years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Then it could be too late, Kenny's piss poor signing's have set Liverpool back years.The structure at our football club is very similar to that of the majority of football clubs on the continent. Because the setup is largely alien to english football it's ridiculed, but the trophies justifies the means.I believe robbie will have input and involvement in transfers, just not total control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I'm not really fussed about players being unveiled etc. I'll just be happy to hear RdM talk as our permanent manager & not interim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Well I'm buzzing for both actually. Buut, it should make sense, seeing as though Training starts today and all the players (cept. Torres and Mata) are online. It would be interesting. I am just asking, because I saw a lot of reports saying that it would be today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 RDM press conference key notes:- Spoke to Daniel Sturridge, feeling better, but has Viral Meningitis. Currently still in hospital. Will be monitored daily. Club doctor with him, updated hourly. Hopefully he'll play at the Olympics. Difficult to give a time limit on him, but optimistic.- Very happy to be staying at the club. Always said he'd accept and respect any decision and is looking forward to working with the group of players to bring more success.- The pressure of the job will remain the same, a lot of games this season.- Says the end of last season was 'fantastic' and we have the players to be able to compete again this year. Says at Chelsea you always want/need to be able to compete at all levels/competitions.- Says the 'shadow of Guardiola' will not be effect him, says its been there since day one.- Eden Hazard is a 'wonderful player', achieved alot for a player at such a young player. Should not forget he is still young, but will hopefully bring alot of creativity to the team.- Marin will be versatile, which is very helpful for the team.- Says he is happy with the team, will continue to monitor the market, and if there is any opportunities we will act.- Would not discuss Hulk, as the price would increase.- Benayoun and Malouda are still here, and 'will see what happens'.- Expects Frank Lampard to return fit when he returns to pre season training.- Happy for Mata and Torres, says hes congratulated them despite it being against Italy. Said Torres winning golden boot is 'fantastic' and could provide confidence to Fernando for the new season.- Wished AVB good luck and says he'll be a success at Spurs. Isn't surprised that he got a new job quickly.- On goal line technology vote this week - RDM is in favour, and says 'its just a matter of a time'.- On whether he'll be here in six/twelve months time, he says he knows managers are judged by results, and its no different for him than anyone else.- Went on holiday after Munich, which is why the appointment took longer than expected.- 'Goal' is too win as many games as we can and challenge in all the competitions we are in. 'Priority' is to challenge.- Drogba was an outstanding player, but we have to move on, and other players will rise to the occasion and fill the gap he has left. On Torres replacing him, he says we have different options with Torres, Sturridge and Lukaku'.- Transfer market not about how much we spend, but finding the best players and most functional players for our team.- Training at Cobham until the 14th, then travelling to America.- Players from the European Championships have 21 days holiday and then return. So the England players are due to return on the 16th, Cech the 11th, Malouda the 15th, Meireles the 19th, Mata/Torres 22nd. so will start training when the team are in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 MATT FUCKING JARVIS??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHL 47 378 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 MATT FUCKING JARVIS???Don't know where you got this rumour from. However we could do a lot worse than Jarvis.I'll tell you what I know of him, he was my Daughters Prom Night date, therefore we've a bit of knowledge about him as a person as well as a player.Quality delivery into the box, think Damien Duff at his best. Get's the ball, makes space and delivers the ball, doesn't fanny around trying to beat multiple players, he does what it says on the tin marked 'Winger'.Hard worker and chips in with 5-10 goals a season. I'd have him at Chelsea in a shot. He might not ever be a first choice, first name on the teamsheet player but he'd do us a good job and would be a better choice currently than Malouda.He's just bought a house near the Training Ground, however as his old 'home' is only 10 miles or so away I wouldn't necessarily make too much of that, plus and as a person he's a good-un. Still knocks about with his mates from school and hasn't got a 'celebrity' attitude. He's very loyal and would offer good squad-rotation options.Bottom line is he's a viable option and English which is important going forward.The other thing is I'd probably get to obtain a good few signed photo's, shirts, tickets, be in a photo of a goal celebration or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Don't know where you got this rumour from. However we could do a lot worse than Jarvis.I'll tell you what I know of him, he was my Daughters Prom Night date, therefore we've a bit of knowledge about him as a person as well as a player.Quality delivery into the box, think Damien Duff at his best. Get's the ball, makes space and delivers the ball, doesn't fanny around trying to beat multiple players, he does what it says on the tin marked 'Winger'.Hard worker and chips in with 5-10 goals a season. I'd have him at Chelsea in a shot. He might not ever be a first choice, first name on the teamsheet player but he'd do us a good job and would be a better choice currently than Malouda.He's just bought a house near the Training Ground, however as his old 'home' is only 10 miles or so away I wouldn't necessarily make too much of that, plus and as a person he's a good-un. Still knocks about with his mates from school and hasn't got a 'celebrity' attitude. He's very loyal and would offer good squad-rotation options.Bottom line is he's a viable option and English which is important going forward.The other thing is I'd probably get to obtain a good few signed photo's, shirts, tickets, be in a photo of a goal celebration or two I thought he was decent. Bottom line is he couldn't get into the Wolves team last year. I don't see this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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