RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Maybe someday he will be back Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Maybe someday he will be backIndeed - you could argue Mou has set a precedent I wouldn't be adverse to RdM returning and bagging another big eared trophy I know that makes me look hypocritical - as I once started a poll on whether RdM should stay - but I knew it was a job too big for him at the time, he should have ended on the high of the CL victory.I still watch his FA Cup goal - amazing RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Good coach, helped us win the UCL trophy (with more than a bit of luck) and that's about itI'm glad we let him go as he simply wasn't cut out to be Chelsea's manager on a full time basis darrus and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Lets face the facts here though.. He was only offered the fulltime job (a medial 2 year contract might I add) to make the club's PR not look as rubbish as it was back then. He won the Champions League with a Chelsea team that didn't have much to offer and all eyes were on our Board.. For how can a club dismiss a European Cup winner? The contract offer was a simple waiting game. If he continues to be successful then its a great gamble, but the moment he begins to look like he's costing the campaign he's gone. Gone cheap too.. He wouldn't be owed near the same sums of compensation that we paid to AVB, Ancelotti etc.That being said, I don't think you'll find a single Chelsea fan who doesn't appreciate and respect the job Roberto Di Matteo did. Roman has never been one to care about outside perception, he does what he believes is best for the club. Infact, my perspective on RDM getting the full time gig was Roman was thinking of the emotional side especially for us the fans, if he ran us purely like a business I reckon he would have made that controversial RDM-Rafa change a matter of days after Munich. That alone showed Roman cared about our thoughts, imagine being on such a high after Munich only for Rafa to be appointed days later? Would have completely destroyed our 'summer in the sun'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Roman has never been one to care about outside perception, he does what he believes is best for the club.Infact, my perspective on RDM getting the full time gig was Roman was thinking of the emotional side especially for us the fans, if he ran us purely like a business I reckon he would have made that controversial RDM-Rafa change a matter of days after Munich.That alone showed Roman cared about our thoughts, imagine being on such a high after Munich only for Rafa to be appointed days later? Would have completely destroyed our 'summer in the sun'.I don't see it like that Tomo, but I respect the view.I think the club felt they didn't have choice but to offer RDM a fulltime contract or face the wrath of the media and others alike in vilifying Chelsea. Backs against the wall and that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Maybe someday he will be backThat's not going to happen until he proves to be an adequate manager. He's not even setting the world alight at Schalke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 That's not going to happen until he proves to be an adequate manager. He's not even setting the world alight at Schalke.Yup, maybe in 10 years or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't see it like that Tomo, but I respect the view.I think the club felt they didn't have choice but to offer RDM a fulltime contract or face the wrath of the media and others alike in vilifying Chelsea. Backs against the wall and that.Fair enough but either way RDMs sacking whenever it came was always going to lead to the media clichés like "how can you sack a CL winning manager" with no context to how the full time job is almost a completely different task to what he faced in his interim spell. LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Fair enough but either way RDMs sacking whenever it came was always going to lead to the media clichés like "how can you sack a CL winning manager" with no context to how the full time job is almost a completely different task to what he faced in his interim spell.Definitely, it was always going to be a ticking time-bomb for this club. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I really hope he can do well at Schalke, love the lad !He had a good start, but results have tailed off lately. Has a Huge match this weekend in the Revierderby vs. BvB Dortmund. One good bit of news is the fact that Drexler might play in this match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 He had a good start, but results have tailed off lately. Has a Huge match this weekend in the Revierderby vs. BvB Dortmund. One good bit of news is the fact that Drexler might play in this match.Erm, Schalke have played Dortmund twice already this season. They are away at FC Cologne this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Erm, Schalke have played Dortmund twice already this season. They are away at FC Cologne this weekend.oops...well my German isn't the greatest, but Draxler should be returning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Sacked by Schalke apparently, that is his top level managerial career over for good. Surprising considering they beat Madrid a couple of months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamad138 190 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Suspect coach. His game style was really worrying in schalke. They couldnt get a act together and played like a pub team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Suspect coach. His game style was really worrying in schalke. They couldnt get a act together and played like a pub teamWell when bus parking is your main tactic it won't help in the long term...apart from that crazy Madrid game every time I seen them play they have been terrible whether that is against good or bad teams. A couple of good performance against Bayern and Madrid inflated his reputation imo.Overall his level is probably Championship at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 not so bed 5-6 place?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Well when bus parking is your main tactic it won't help in the long term...apart from that crazy Madrid game every time I seen them play they have been terrible whether that is against good or bad teams. A couple of good performance against Bayern and Madrid inflated his reputation imo.Overall his level is probably Championship at bestClearly not. Apart from his short spell here as interim manger, he's always been an coach with an attacking philosophy. Have some respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Clearly not. Apart from his short spell here as interim manger, he's always been an coach with an attacking philosophy. Have some respect.I am not playing down his achievement with us, that 2011-12 season will forever be remembered as one of our best in our history and rightly so. But his ABILITY as a coach is questionable, sacked by West Brom, Chelsea and now Schalke. Basically he failed with keeping a relegation contender team up, one of the best team in the world to maintain position at the top and fail to help a potential top 4-5 club in Germany to their aim of a CL place.Maybe his place is at the lower division with teams aiming for top flight pormotion. That is the cold hard truth after the past 3 years. Just because we played all out attacking in those 1st couple of months 2012-13 doesn't mean he is a natural attacking coach. It was DEMANDED by Roman and he duly obliged to keep his job. poup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I am not playing down his achievement with us, that 2011-12 season will forever be remembered as one of our best in our history and rightly so. But his ABILITY as a coach is questionable, sacked by West Brom, Chelsea and now Schalke. Basically he failed with keeping a relegation contender team up, one of the best team in the world to maintain position at the top and fail to help a potential top 4-5 club in Germany to their aim of a CL place.Maybe his place is at the lower division with teams aiming for top flight pormotion. That is the cold hard truth after the past 3 years. Just because we played all out attacking in those 1st couple of months 2012-13 doesn't mean he is a natural attacking coach. It was DEMANDED by Roman and he duly obliged to keep his job.This is ridiculous, when he was sacked from West Brom they were well above the relegation zone. They finished 11th in the season he was sacked (unjustifiably, a lot of WBA fans were still behind him). For us, he obviously wasn't the man but he didn't do so badly. Winning an FA Cup and CL and starting the following season off pretty well. Obviously CFC is too big for him though. Schalke's apparent dismissal was pretty unfair as well considering he took over when they were 11th and steered them to 5th. You've got it all wrong when it comes to the WBA and Schalke stuff. He did okay with them. Like I said, have some respect. He isn't a championship standard coach. He has flaws, but he's definitely a top division manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 This is ridiculous, when he was sacked from West Brom they were well above the relegation zone. They finished 11th in the season he was sacked (unjustifiably, a lot of WBA fans were still behind him). For us, he obviously wasn't the man but he didn't do so badly. Winning an FA Cup and CL and starting the following season off pretty well. Obviously CFC is too big for him though. Schalke's apparent dismissal was pretty unfair as well considering he took over when they were 11th and steered them to 5th. You've got it all wrong when it comes to the WBA and Schalke stuff. He did okay with them. Like I said, have some respect. He isn't a championship standard coach. He has flaws, but he's definitely a top division manager.I haven't followed Schalke atall but at West Brom and his full time stint at Chelsea he seemed to start ok but as soon as the team hit the skids he had no idea how to arrest the slide and was consequently sacked both times. That is something that he needs to fix if he wants to be a regular gaffer in one of the top 5 league's. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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