KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 How does it make no sense? Hulk is a right-sided player, Jovetic is not.Where are all these players going to play? Where is Sturridge going to play? How many players will be content with sitting on the bench? Thus it makes no sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Where are all these players going to play? Where is Sturidge going to play? How many players will be content with sitting on the bench? Thus it makes no sense...Thats irrelevant to the fact that the Hulk deal does not affect our interest in Jovetic. Hulk is* being bought for the right side, Jovetic is not.*Of course its not a guarantee that he will join, nor Jovetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royg 96 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well they are both strikers and we are being linked to buy another striker. If one is bought this transfer window then the other wont be. Thats why i see chelsea looking for avenues to make porto sell Hulk much cheaper than 38mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thats irrelevant to the fact that the Hulk deal does not affect our interest in Jovetic. Hulk is* being bought for the right side, Jovetic is not.*Of course its not a guarantee that he will join, nor Jovetic.The Hulk deal does affect our interest in Jovetic. If we buy Hulk, what's the point of spending 25 million on Jovetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The Hulk deal does affect our interest in Jovetic.If we buy Hulk, what's the point of spending 25 million on Jovetic?Seems like a poor point to prove your argument, 'what's the point?'. I don't get why it is such a hard concept to grasp, they play in different positions, one is not dependant on the other. If we do not sign Hulk, and sign Jovetic, who plays RW?...Oh, and Chelsea would not pay £25m for Jovetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thats irrelevant to the fact that the Hulk deal does not affect our interest in Jovetic. Hulk is* being bought for the right side, Jovetic is not.*Of course its not a guarantee that he will join, nor Jovetic.Sounds like you lost the argument. We can't buy both Jovetic AND Hulk for the reasons I asked you. While you have provided me with no reasoning whatsoever and continue on insisting both Jovetic and Hulk can be bought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sounds like you lost the argument. We can't buy both Jovetic AND Hulk for the reasons I asked you. While you have provided me with no reasoning whatsoever and continue on insisting Jovetic and Hulk can be bought......Lost the argument? They play in different positions, therefore one deal is not dependant upon the other. That was my argument, and it still stands. You fail to understand the fact that Hulk is a target for the RW, Jovetic for either the LW/CAM. Is it really that difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Lost the argument? They play in different positions, therefore one deal is not dependant upon the other. That was my argument, and it still stands. You fail to understand the fact that Hulk is a target for the RW, Jovetic for either the LW/CAM. Is it really that difficult?You fail to see we have Mata, Marin, KDB, Hazard for LW/CAM. So we're going to buy a player who will only push others players further down the pecking order? Or are you insisting we buy a 25 million bench warmer? Is it really difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 You fail to see we have Mata, Marin, KDB, Hazard for LW/CAM. So we're going to buy a player who will only push others players further down the pecking order? Or are you insisting we buy a 25 million bench warmer?Again, irrelevant. I give up with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Again, irrelevant. I give up with you.Again, not irrelevant. You need to learn that just because you call something irrelevant, doesn't make it so. That is a very childish way to act. I have clearly debunked you argument and it would be advisable you recognise your mistake and not act like a "sore loser". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Again, not irrelevant. You need to learn that just because you call something irrelevant, doesn't make it so. That is a very childish way to act. I have clearly debunked you argument and it would be advisable you recognise your mistake and not act like a "sore loser".It is completely irrelevant.My point: They play in different positions therefore one deal is not dependant upon the other.That was it, just that. I'm not considering playing time/cost/wages etc. The point still stands and is completely logical. You can question Chelsea's interest in Jovetic all you like, i'm not interested in talking about that. The fact that you've listed players we already have in Jovetic's position kind of proves my point correct. We have players that play LW/CAM, but none on the RW, which is where the interest in Hulk stems from.If we sign Jovetic, and not Hulk, we still do not have a RW, correct? If we sign Hulk and not Jovetic, we have our RW. If we sign both, we have a true RW (to a degree) and back up for LW/CAM.I'm not saying we should sign Jovetic, as frankly I see no place for him here, but we are definitely interested, that much can be said. Not for £25m however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Everyone grab your popcorn and watch these two argue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Lads, it's one or the other. Don't get your knickers messy over semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 It is completely irrelevant.My point: They play in different positions therefore one deal is not dependant upon the other.That was it, just that. I'm not considering playing time/cost/wages etc. The point still stands and is completely logical. You can question Chelsea's interest in Jovetic all you like, i'm not interested in talking about that. The fact that you've listed players we already have in Jovetic's position kind of proves my point correct. We have players that play LW/CAM, but none on the RW, which is where the interest in Hulk stems from.If we sign Jovetic, and not Hulk, we still do not have a RW, correct? If we sign Hulk and not Jovetic, we have our RW. If we sign both, we have a true RW (to a degree) and back up for LW/CAM.I'm not saying we should sign Jovetic, as frankly I see no place for him here, but we are definitely interested, that much can be said. Not for £25m however.Finally, you've nicely explained your point of view. I understand what you're saying but I am assuming that if we buy Jovetic it won't be to warm the bench, which is why it is safe to assume he would play RW. Thus he would impact on whether we buy Hulk or not. If we do buy both Jovetic and Hulk as well, Sturridge can kiss the Chelsea shirt goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Everyone grab your popcorn and watch these two argue!Judah you should know (from the other Chelsea forum) that I am brilliant at Arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Judah you should know (from the other Chelsea forum) that I am brilliant at Arguing. Yeah, you cant seem to lose any arguments, doesnt mean you are always right though bro. Please dont argue with me!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yeah, you cant seem to lose any arguments, doesnt mean you are always right though bro. Please dont argue with me!!!!!!! I will not unleash my awesome arguing skills upon you, be at ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I will not unleash my awesome arguing skills upon you, be at ease. Oh a mere mortal like me are not worthy of such mercy haha.Anyway back on topic, so jovetic can play anywhere in the front 4? but is he comfortable enough at RW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Oh a mere mortal like are not worthy of such mercy haha.Anyway back on topic, so jovetic can play anywhere in the 4? but is he comfortable enough at RW?He can play LW/CAM but I don't think he would be totally comfrotable in RW. However he could grow into that role, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 At the risk of entering into the war of words, I think that if Jovetic were to be brought it would be instead of Hulk, and it may change the dynamic of how we're looking to shape up next season. I don't see anything wrong with a '3' of Mata, Hazard and Jovetic because I think the potential of all three together over time could be magic.However my biggest concern is one will have to shape up on the right, particularly when defending, and none have good experience of playing this position. We have spent far too long playing players on the right wing who have never previously played there for significant periods of their career (Anelka, Sturridge, Ramires) and although they have all done admirable jobs, I would love to have a natural RW to give the balance the team needs.That is why Hulk is still my first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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