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Well I want to use it obviously, but quotes are around £3100-£4000 for fully comp. It's a little bit cheaper for third party fire and theft though.

The cheaper quotes come thanks to my mom and dad having been driving for 34 and 39 years respectively with about 20 years no claims between the two of them... but its ridiculous. I didn't know it would be this expensive! The cheapest thing to do is have your own insurance policy with your parents or an older sibling as named drivers as experienced additional drivers will reduce the premiums. What most new drivers do is be named drivers on a parent's policy but insurance companies have cottoned on to this now :( Its ridiculous when you think driving lessons cost about £600, the two tests are £90 combined and thats if you pass them both first time... then the car plus insurance and then filling it up... it really isn't worth it!

Ouch, yeah its ridiculous you pay more for insurance than the whole car/driving experience but i'd much rather not be a bus wanker for the rest of my life.

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Well I want to use it obviously, but quotes are around £3100-£4000 for fully comp. It's a little bit cheaper for third party fire and theft though.

The cheaper quotes come thanks to my mom and dad having been driving for 34 and 39 years respectively with about 20 years no claims between the two of them... but its ridiculous. I didn't know it would be this expensive! The cheapest thing to do is have your own insurance policy with your parents or an older sibling as named drivers as experienced additional drivers will reduce the premiums. What most new drivers do is be named drivers on a parent's policy but insurance companies have cottoned on to this now :( Its ridiculous when you think driving lessons cost about £600, the two tests are £90 combined and thats if you pass them both first time... then the car plus insurance and then filling it up... it really isn't worth it!

Jesus bloody christ!!!!!! Yeh I think done the whole parent as the name driver thing but like you said they've cottoned onto it which is crap.And petrol these days....bloody through the roof!! Nice car mind you!

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I have the same car but in silver with better wheels. :P

£3100-£4000 for you to insure that car, what size engine is?

Yeah but mine's blue so kiss my backside :D

1.1 engine, category 2 insurance... had a quote from Liverpool Victoria, £2900, not too bad.

I think the reason why my insurance is so much is because there are forward-facing rocket launchers behind the headlights.

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Two, but many are fearful. Yet accustomed to the situation. Now winter will have to go in the house. Hell are demanding

Do you know what millet is? Recommend you buy some if not. Search up Millet training on the net, I did it a few years ago for a few weeks and they all jump on your hands and stuff without any fear :D It really helps!

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Do you know what millet is? Recommend you buy some if not. Search up Millet training on the net, I did it a few years ago for a few weeks and they all jump on your hands and stuff without any fear :D It really helps!

So far, nothing helps, a sudden movement and heart will pop. I was going to let them into the room where you can not escape, but told me that this type of parrots are not running. Give their fruit, but do not want to eat. Made their nest, but it ate :giggle:

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Blue is a wholesaler and I think it is female. Quite difficult to find what is masculine and what is feminine.

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So far, nothing helps, a sudden movement and heart will pop. I was going to let them into the room where you can not escape, but told me that this type of parrots are not running. Give their fruit, but do not want to eat. Made their nest, but it ate :giggle:

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Blue is a wholesaler and I think it is female. Quite difficult to find what is masculine and what is feminine.

It looks like he's a male because his ceer is a blue colour, your yellow one is harder to tell because it's ceer isn't developed fully. Must be young still, a females is normally pinky and a males is normally blue.

Have you got curtians in your room, or something like that. They normally fly across and just perch on each side. I recommend you do take them out soon, but the first time is always hectic I warn you :D The millet is a magnet, trust me when you buy it start feeding it to them from outside the cage eventually get closer. They will jump on to your hand after a while, youtube millet training. BTW what do you mean by a nest, did you buy them a breeding box or something? these birds don't make/jump into the orthodox nests you see outside.

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Box breeding for Easter were gifted me this box''nest''which is woven and tied it to the cell from the inside, thinking it will make them incubating, but instead I had eaten it not all but most of it . I understand that breeding takes place in early summer to late. The box was not very large because the cell itself is not very large.

ARA for me is probably the best quality parrot, but the price just crazy to refuse any applicant to take such a parrot.

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:) Bluelion

Nice car but I am still reeling at the cost of your insurance!!

Most of what I have purchased lately hasn't really been by me because we are expats we have some say in what we have but the company has the ultimate yes or no.

**We are renting a lane house in Shanghai (only one neighbor is an expat!) it is an old style lane house but has been renovated to appeal to westerners (I'll post pictures soon)

**We will be getting a new car because the Honda Oddessy that we are in doesn't have enough leg room for my son in the back and our driver prefers that we all sit in the back (no distractions while he is driving) and bookshelves from IKEA... we really need them!! I can't wait until our books arrive from the US!!

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