🇸🇳 15. Nicolas Jackson

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 goal, 6 big chances missed & 1 card away from suspension so far this season. Some Good signs but also needs to be a bit less erratic.

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

1 goal, 6 big chances missed & 1 card away from suspension so far this season. Some Good signs but also needs to be a bit less erratic.

The new Kalou. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

4 minutes ago, King Kante said:

The new Kalou. 

Still think it’s harsh to expect a young and raw player like him to be able to lead the line for us every week when hes still very much trying to find his feet in top level football.

Unfortunately, the burden is on him like many of our positions with other young guys who aren’t maybe ready/should have some more established guys in and around to take the weight off, he is clearly the number 1 choice. Realistically though, he should be a second choice with a guy in front of him but its the situation we are in.

His attitude is good and I have no doubts he will get better but its going to be a process. He actually looks promising, unlike Mudryk (write off already), Noni and I’d guess Palmer (just looks like we’ve signed a rip of Kai Havertz who has no real distinct qualities) who City were probably pissing themselves at getting £45+5m off of us for. Still early for Palmer and maybe Noni but I just don’t see the pair of them doing anything. Lavia not played yet but money could have been used elsewhere & kept one of Kovacic or Kante.

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Still think it’s harsh to expect a young and raw player like him to be able to lead the line for us every week when hes still very much trying to find his feet in top level football.

Unfortunately, the burden is on him like many of our positions with other young guys who aren’t maybe ready/should have some more established guys in and around to take the weight off, he is clearly the number 1 choice. Realistically though, he should be a second choice with a guy in front of him but its the situation we are in.

His attitude is good and I have no doubts he will get better but its going to be a process. He actually looks promising, unlike Mudryk (write off already), Noni and I’d guess Palmer (just looks like we’ve signed a rip of Kai Havertz who has no real distinct qualities) who City were probably pissing themselves at getting £45+5m off of us for. Still early for Palmer and maybe Noni but I just don’t see the pair of them doing anything. Lavia not played yet but money could have been used elsewhere & kept one of Kovacic or Kante.

I agree. Jackson should've been played into the side - I have said throughout that our transfer policy was incredibly dangerous as it was essentially buy all 'potential' and we seriously lacked experience.

As for my comment about the new Kalou, that isn't a bad thing per se as he was a serviceable player who always gave his all. 

Where, I am concerned, and this is why Kalou was never more than a 'squad player' is due to decision making in the box/finishing. Jackson is showing a lot of the same qualities in that he creates good situations/gets himself in good situations- however, he needs 10 chances to convert 2 goals. 

[Thor 2,702]

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

Agree and disagree. Don't think City (or Halland) is a good A/B source for comparison either-just too many variables. I think it's less tactics and more players, or the lack there of, than the utuber there.

Jackson is not "fine" at this level. He's fine if you consider the circumstances, but I'm really tired of appending every sentence with "for a 19-23yo fresh in the PL." 😕 

The part I agree with is the obvious one; for me the worst players on the pitch were both Mudryk and Enzo. Mudryk looked clueless as usual, but Enzo... did he even play?! no yellow card, no fight, no drive... just disappointing and yes, I'm the one who says he's wasted in that CAM position. Still this performance was not cool!
Now you consider that the one senior excellent attacking winger we got lost his RB buddy. I know folks are in love with Gusto, but boy, going forward he's really limited compared to James.

So, we were starved of quality in all areas of attack against bournemouth.: Left with Mudryk (and tbf not a proper LB), Enzo wasted in CAM, and Sterling no getting two ones, so of course Jackson struggled! He's not the real deal yet, just like most of our team, so he can't overcome such challenges just yet.

Does anyone think Connor getting time on the ball and space to operate, but Enzo getting none was an accident? That's coaching. If I play against Chelsea I'd tell my players that Enzo will not play; the others are somewhat free to roam, but Enzo will enjoy tight marking all game. Not really that complicated.

Edited September 18, 2023 by robsblubot

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

6 hours ago, Thor said:

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

[Vesper 30,175]

11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

and Håland will sort his misses, book it

he is obsessive and two months ago he was still only 22! He is still on an early career learning curve (which is terrifying)

[robsblubot 3,595]

19 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

Right, but Jackson isn't Haaland. I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of that. I'm sure Haaland would do more than Jackson because he's a far superior striker, no doubt. Saying otherwise is just silly tbh.

You are not wrong that Jackson is lacking esp that finishing touch, but our final third production is erratic at best, and non-existent at times. The striker will always be affected by that and so will his conversion rate.
It's one thing to play for a team which is firing in all cylinders, dominating games, and you know you don't need to score... that a new chance is just around the corner. It's entirely different when you are under pressure and the whole team is misfiring.

So, even seemingly personal stats like conversion rate aren't really self-contained.

Edited September 19, 2023 by robsblubot

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Comparing anyone to Haaland is, well, just ridiculous. Like there is no striker in world football at that age that comes close. But people want to make the comparison anyway, baffling. 

[Thor 2,702]

No one is comparing. It is comparing the "big chances" that Chelsea get compared to City and they just happen to be the strikers. 

The quality of "big chances" Chelsea get isn't close to that of Man City. That is the point. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

10 hours ago, Thor said:

The quality of "big chances" Chelsea get isn't close to that of Man City. That is the point. 

Yes! and not only the quality, the abundance of them, the dominance the team exerts (or not), how many touches the striker gets (or not), whether the team is chasing a result often, is he played ball to feet or ball into space? high balls or low crosses, how many teammates does he have in support? many so many variables... 

Ironically, another thing that hurts Jackson is not having a proper senior striker backup. Imagine a Giroud type who could share the blunt of physicality and rotate with him? It's common practice in football, for ex, to employ the more physical striker first, and once the CBs are mellowed out (as in tired and beaten up) in the second half, then get the pacier one in.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Heard the majority of Jackson's chances came from crosses that were deflected. 

So yeah, the quality of big chances is definitely a case. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Heard the majority of Jackson's chances came from crosses that were deflected. 

So yeah, the quality of big chances is definitely a case. 

He still missed many sitters. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

18 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

He still missed many sitters. 

As does every top striker. The amount of quality of chances he receives is the difference. He'll miss a sitter than won't get anything else all match. Liverpool and West Ham immediately come to mind. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

He still missed many sitters. 

I suppose if Vlahovic or Felix missed them you’d be blaming the quality of the service…. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

It's not a case of Jackson being the final product doing perfectly fine, but not getting service. It's also not the case of a team firing in all cylinders providing good service only to be let down by a struggling striker.

It's both and cause/consequence gets mixed up.

It's a struggling team, built from scratch, with too many young inexperienced players, which make it a hard environment for an also young and relatively inexperienced striker to thrive. Had we had a more senior striker rotating with Jackson, and we might have been in a better position, including Jackson himself.

Once again, why many of us questioned what the club was doing regarding transfers. Nothing happening should be a surprise tbh.

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

We gonna have Nkunku in January to replace him so we should be fine even if we don't sign new striker in early January. 3/4 PL games,  first game in Fa Cup and potentially very important this season semis in League Cup which is double header. 

Spurs gonna lose both starting players in pivot. 

[Vesper 30,175]

‘Let’s be honest’: Peter Crouch suggests 22-year-old Chelsea player isn’t good enough after Brentford loss

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/news/lets-be-honest-peter-crouch-suggests-22-year-old-Chelsea-player-isnt-good-enough-after-brentford-loss/

 

Peter Crouch suggests Nicolas Jackson doesn’t posses the quality to be Chelsea’s first-choice striker after watching his latest performance.

Chelsea’s disappointment at Stamford Bridge continued on Saturday afternoon, suffering a 2-0 home loss against London rivals Brentford in the Premier League. Ethan Pinnock and Bryan Mbeumo netted second-half goals to gift the visitors all three points.

The Blues now have just one victory in their last 13 league games at home, which is an alarming record for this team.

 

Chelsea struggles

Yes, Chelsea have scored a few goals recently and looked better going forward. It was the same old issue in attack that cropped up versus Brentford, though.

Mauricio Pochettino’s side recorded 17 shots during Saturday’s match, but only two were on target.

Nicolas Jackson was recalled to the starting line-up against Brentford to lead the line, but yet again he couldn’t find the killer touch in the opposition’s penalty box. The 22-year-old striker eventually saw his game fizzle out.

Pundit Peter Crouch isn’t certain that the Senegal international is good enough for Chelsea moving forward.

“Nicolas Jackson, let’s be honest, is not going to be the answer long-term. He does a lot of great work outside the box, but is he going to get you 15-20 goals? I don’t think so,” Crouch told TNT Sports 2 (3:10pm, 28 October).

Nicolas Jackson wastes chance

It certainly wasn’t the return to the starting line-up that Jackson will have hoped for.

We agree that the young centre-forward does get into some clever positions. He’s got a decent work rate and desire, too.

Unfortunately, he’s not fitting all the pieces of the jigsaw together right now when he’s in the penalty area.

A recent report from The Daily Mail named Jackson as one of the Premier League’s worst signings of the summer.

We still think that the striker has something to offer this squad moving forward, but there’s no disguising that the club may need to go invest more money to bring in a world-class No 9.

[Mário César 1,255]

ofc is not good enough 

he is good as a backup player 

why we loaned lukaku? he would do better than our center forwards