Superblue 6,372 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just now, ChelseaFanUK said: DOUBLE POST: But there is no chance Sarri comes here and works with what he has got. I think, in part, he had to work with that mandate at Napoli as they aren't a club with substantial wealth. We are. I think some people have been listening to Conte too much. Between the summer and January we spent a lot of money in the market. Yes we sold players, and yes a number of those buys haven't worked out but the idea that we are no longer prepared to spend money is a myth. As I said previously, hopefully we only need say 3 top players to help improve the team this summer with a couple more from the loan army to freshen up the squad a little further. This hopefully will allow us to identify a higher calibre of player compared to last season. Belgiannutt, Tomo and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: I agree with you. Also the legalities of sacking Conte seems to be a problem right now. I do expect the announcement by Thursday. I hope we are already working on the players that we will be signing under Sarri. But it's a mess at the club right now. We need a squad overhaul (yet again) and still don't have the targets, let alone negotiate for them and low balling for them for a month at least, cause that's how it's done here at Chelsea. It's not good when other clubs have become so much stronger. Liverpool have bought Fabinho already and probably will announce Fekir in a week or 10 days max. As for United, Fred looks done and dusted. City already have the kind of squad that makes you shit bricks and I'm sure they'll be adding soon. And more importantly, we don't have 31st August to save us this time around. Do we really need an overhaul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I think some people have been listening to Conte too much. Between the summer and January we spent a lot of money in the market. Yes we sold players, and yes a number of those buys haven't worked out but the idea that we are no longer prepared to spend money is a myth. As I said previously, hopefully we only need say 3 top players to help improve the team this summer with a couple more from the loan army to freshen up the squad a little further. This hopefully will allow us to identify a higher calibre of player compared to last season. Then the net spend argument is brought in, which is rather ironic given we use to laugh at Liverpool and Arsenal fans for using that argument to defend Rafa and Wenger. Superblue and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tomo said: Do we really need an overhaul? 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Then the net spend argument is brought in, which is rather ironic given we use to laugh at Liverpool and Arsenal fans for using that argument to defend Rafa and Wenger. As an example, if the club moved on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Morata and brought back in RLC, Mount and Batshuayi would we really look at that and think we're any worse off after the former trio's performances this season. On top of that we'd probably raise some serious money on the back of it to add to a war chest to focus on 2 or 3 top signings. Or they as an example decide to stick with Morata and sell Batshuayi which will be somewhere around £50m being pocketed. The club have found a formula to stay competitive regarding our loan army of players and making profits on them. The only area I would say needs an overhaul of sorts is at full back/wing back because if as expected Sarri adopts a back 4, in my opinion Alonso, Moses and Zappacosta would all be ill suited to that. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: As an example, if the club moved on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Morata and brought back in RLC, Mount and Batshuayi would we really look at that and think we're any worse off after the former trio's performances this season. On top of that we'd probably raise some serious money on the back of it to add to a war chest to focus on 2 or 3 top signings. Or they as an example decide to stick with Morata and sell Batshuayi which will be somewhere around £50m being pocketed. The club have found a formula to stay competitive regarding our loan army of players and making profits on them. The only area I would say needs an overhaul of sorts is at full back/wing back because if as expected Sarri adopts a back 4, in my opinion Alonso, Moses and Zappacosta would all be ill suited to that. I wouldn't mind giving Moses a shot as Azpi's back up, i feel he could be a Valencia esque player there, ala failed winger turned good fullback. What however would be ideal is if Sarri is keeping to his one attacking one more defensive full back is if we have an attacking full back at both RB and LB rotate them and keep switching Azpi from right to left depending on who the biggest threat is out wide. Not many people are keen of Azpi at LB but i like him there, especially vs left footed right wingers and this time round we will hopefully have a better RB than father time Ivanovic. I would say midfield was the area we need the reinforcements first and foremost, im personally not convinced by Ross or Ruben and their shady fitness will be an even bigger worry under Sarri. Baka under Sarri is a no no, he would stand out for the wrong reasons even more than he is already We only really have Kante (potentially Mount but the idea of loaning him to Fulham appeals) for me at the minute (Drinkwater as a squad player), i think even Cesc will be redundant in every way bar emergency sub. Superblue and Miguelito 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 32 minutes ago, Tomo said: Do we really need an overhaul? In my opinion, yes. We've bought a lot of deadwood. These positions would be my priority. Winger (at least one more provided none of the present 3 leave) Center Mid (At least one of the Jorginho mold, This is the major cause of concern for us imo. Sarri plays 3 and I don't think anyone apart from Kante could be trusted. Maybe RLC?) Left Back (The jury's out for this one and whether Sarri sees Emerson as someone who'd fit into the squad) Striker (If Morata leaves) Contrary to a few fans, I don't think we need Koulibaly at all. Rudiger has been an amazing signing and Christensen/Cahill/Luiz is fine for the other CB spot. Also, the deadwood that we've bought in Drinkwater, Zappacosta Barkley (?) Emerson (If Sarri doesn't fancy him) I think the club would be willing to move Bats on for a good fees (50 million is what I've seen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, Tomo said: Do we really need an overhaul? Yes And Eden thinks so too aparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tomo said: I wouldn't mind giving Moses a shot as Azpi's back up, i feel he could be a Valencia esque player there, ala failed winger turned good fullback. What however would be ideal is if Sarri is keeping to his one attacking one more defensive full back is if we have an attacking full back at both RB and LB rotate them and keep switching Azpi from right to left depending on who the biggest threat is out wide. Not many people are keen of Azpi at LB but i like him there, especially vs left footed right wingers and this time round we will hopefully have a better RB than father time Ivanovic. I would say midfield was the area we need the reinforcements first and foremost, im personally not convinced by Ross or Ruben and their shady fitness will be an even bigger worry under Sarri. Baka under Sarri is a no no, he would stand out for the wrong reasons even more than he is already We only really have Kante (potentially Mount but the idea of loaning him to Fulham appeals) for me at the minute (Drinkwater as a squad player), i think even Cesc will be redundant in every way bar emergency sub. I'm not against Azpi giving extra depth across both full back slots. On the current squad, I would say our best option is Emerson at LB and Azpi at RB. Moses would still worry me defensively. He's extremely lucky that he has Azpi behind him because if he played on the left with Cahill behind him i think he would have been exposed far more often up to now at wing back. I think RLC needs to be given a chance next season. The lack of homegrown/English options around is frightening and the reason why we have moved for players like Drinkwater He would worry me being someone that would leave and flourish because I do think the ability is there and his build/presence in the middle of midfield is perfect. I also believe his game took a step up on debut for England playing alongside better players than he has at Palace and in my opinion the club needs to see if he can take an even greater step up with an even higher calibre of player at Chelsea. Same with Barkley, his technical ability wouldn't be an issue under Sarri, he just needs coaching and a good attacking coach may be able to get the best out of him when the potential is definitely there. For me, the midfield play maker is the key position that we need (like a Jorginho style). Fabregas can play back up to that role for a season and has shown to good effect in the last 2 years that he can be a very good option off the bench. Another top midfielder alongside Kante would be nice but I think we can get by if one wasn't signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 June 1st will be the day... New fiscal year begins then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Starman60 said: Abrahamovic out of the country and cant get back in. Conte out of the country and doesn't want to come back in. Sarri out of the country and wants to get in. So Sarri cant get in cause Roman's out and Conte's in, and until Roman comes in and puts Conte out, Sarri cant come in. Keep up peoples, it's all very simple............I think and Roman has become an Isreali citizen during all this..don`t know what that means regarding the visa.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said: and Roman has become an Isreali citizen during all this..don`t know what that means regarding the visa.. It means he can come in to the UK for 6 months, but can't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said: It means he can come in to the UK for 6 months, but can't work. So basically what he does for us now! Sit at a desk with his yesmen and woman telling him what a great job they are doing with transfers! These reports of him being more handson with transfers is slow business. Must have learned the job from Emenalo. Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said: and Roman has become an Isreali citizen during all this..don`t know what that means regarding the visa.. He can enter the UK freely now, but for 6 months at a time. (i think) Also doesn't pay any tax for the next 10 years. So his income will not be touched, therefore we should notice his wealth grow a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Conte didn't cost Chelsea - the board did, says Gullit http://www.goal.com/en/news/conte-didnt-cost-chelsea-the-board-did-says-gullit/1xx4oxs3pudx7167asbvzqlqx5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Napoli, De Laurentiis:”I hope Ancelotti stays for ten years. I couldn’t wait any longer for Sarri” https://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/napoli-de-laurentiisi-hope-ancelotti-stays-for-ten-years-i-couldnt-wait-any-longer-for-sarri Afer finishing the season in second place, Napoli have been in the headlines with their recent coaching change. President Aurelio De Laurentiis was asked about the matter while attending the Football Leader convention:”Sarri? At a certain point I told the press that time had run out. I’m responsible for a very important club, I couldn’t keep waiting for other people’s decisions. I then decided to bring Carlo Ancelotti to Napoli, I already started working with him. I’ll never forget the time Antonio Conte strongly pursued Koulibaly by offering 58 million. I told him: Antonio what can I do with 58 million? The important thing is that he stays at Napoli. I hope Ancelotti stays with us for another ten years, but I always must think of what’s best for the club, I’ll always make moves with that objectivity in mind and I won’t be swayed by enthusiasm. Don’t worry, with Carletto we’ll do what we are supposed to” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Talks about Blanc as our prefered manager seems to gathering pace on twitter now. Feck me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Costa19 said: Talks about Blanc as our prefered manager seems to gathering pace on twitter now. Feck me.. I'd be shocked if the Sarri buyout clause killed the deal, feels like a negotiating tactic. ADL will call the bluff and we will stump up the whole sum of Sarris clause. I would be shocked(but not surprised) if it went any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Simson johnson says. That sari is our first choice. So the blanc rumors are BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Just pay it man. This club... didn’t hesitate to spend £35m on Drinkwater? So silly. I seriously doubt the buy out is the problem. I think it has more to do with seeing out this fiscal year and having it on the books for next term. I expect Antonio to be sacked on the 31st and Sarri to be hired on the 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 2 more days to wait. I think if we have gone through all the contractual stuff with Sarri, that it most likely will be him Sarri definitely not Zenit bound anyway.. Semak has the job the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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