The Next Manager?

[YorkshireBlue 3,175]

  On 28/05/2018 at 20:56, Unionjack said:

But those mid level wonkey donkeys and high level one all added up to a decent chunk of change.

If only it was spent more wisely we PROBABLY wouldn't be in the state we are in now.

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I honestly believe us as a club atm are in complete shit state. Unfortunately a new manager and a few shit lower level signings ain't going to fix it.

[Unionjack 7,531]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:03, BluesMadLad said:

I honestly believe us as a club atm are in complete shit state. Unfortunately a new manager and a few shit lower level signings ain't going to fix it.

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So very true

And if Roman is the fan and the businessman we think/hope he is then he will have more than some kiss arse men and woman of a board advising him of the real situation.

I'm giving Roman the benefit of a doubt right now that hes got our backs till its proved otherwise.

[AK-3001 286]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:03, Superblue_1986 said:

Let's put things into a bit of perspective everyone. We're coming off the back of a weekend and a bank holiday over here. There was never likely to be any movement or announcements over this period and the board may have realised that themselves to give us a little bit more time to sort things out.

If the media reports are to be believed, we've had the marathon meetings with Sarri's advisers and reportedly Sarri met Roman in Russia last week. I'm sure as part of selling his grand vision to the board, he's already identified and discussed transfer targets. There's nothing to suggest that we're not working hard on these at the moment, as well as sorting out the manager situation. The board rarely give much away and a lot of the speculation from the media is just that because they have no idea themselves.

Liverpool have announced Fabinho subject to personal terms, but United and City links are nothing but pure speculation at the moment. And Spurs and Arsenal too don't seem to be linked at the moment with much.

If another week goes by with nothing I would start to ask questions, but for now I don't think we should be overly worried.

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I agree with you. Also the legalities of sacking Conte seems to be a problem right now. I do expect the announcement by Thursday. I hope we are already working on the players that we will be signing under Sarri. 

 

But it's a mess at the club right now. We need a squad overhaul (yet again) and still don't have the targets, let alone negotiate for them and low balling for them for a month at least, cause that's how it's done here at Chelsea.

It's not good when other clubs have become so much stronger. Liverpool have bought Fabinho already and probably will announce Fekir in a week or 10 days max. As for United, Fred looks done and dusted. City already have the kind of squad that makes you shit bricks and I'm sure they'll be adding soon.

 

And more importantly, we don't have 31st August to save us this time around. 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:13, AK-3001 said:

I agree with you. Also the legalities of sacking Conte seems to be a problem right now. I do expect the announcement by Thursday. I hope we are already working on the players that we will be signing under Sarri. 

 

It's a mess at the club right now. We need a squad overhaul (yet again) and still don't have the targets, let alone negotiate for them and low balling for them for a month at least, cause that's how it's done here at Chelsea.

It's not good when other clubs have become so much stronger. Liverpool have bought Fabinho already and probably will announce Fekir in a week or 10 days max. As for United, Fred looks done and dusted. City already have the kind of squad that makes you shit bricks and I'm sure they'll be adding soon.

 

And more importantly, we don't have 31st August to save us this time around. 

 

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Agree at the moment things don't look bright but Chelsea made such a huge overhaul of their squad in the last 2 transfer windows.

At the moment most of the signings look terrible, but hopefully (1) a new manager and style may get more out of some of them (Emerson and Barkley for example) and (2) a season of acclimatisation will also help for people like Morata if they stay (think Pedro who was pretty awful in his first season but was very important in 2016/17).

The squad now is more bloated and should be able to cope with Europa League next year on top of the domestic campaign, and some players have done really well on loan who in theory could come back in next season like RLC, Batshuayi, Kenedy, etc. This should allow the club to focus on say 3 top signings to add to the squad and strengthen key areas, rather than having to cast our net wide in a scatter gun approach like we did last year.

[Laylabelle 9,458]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:03, Superblue_1986 said:

Let's put things into a bit of perspective everyone. We're coming off the back of a weekend and a bank holiday over here. There was never likely to be any movement or announcements over this period and the board may have realised that themselves to give us a little bit more time to sort things out.

If the media reports are to be believed, we've had the marathon meetings with Sarri's advisers and reportedly Sarri met Roman in Russia last week. I'm sure as part of selling his grand vision to the board, he's already identified and discussed transfer targets. There's nothing to suggest that we're not working hard on these at the moment, as well as sorting out the manager situation. The board rarely give much away and a lot of the speculation from the media is just that because they have no idea themselves.

Liverpool have announced Fabinho subject to personal terms, but United and City links are nothing but pure speculation at the moment. And Spurs and Arsenal too don't seem to be linked at the moment with much.

If another week goes by with nothing I would start to ask questions, but for now I don't think we should be overly worried.

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But this is the patten.. Think ah don't worry got time.. Don't worry got time... Don't worry. Oh shit there's a week left!!

Early days but expect more of the same.. Hoping not!! And if we get re linked with Carroll or some other crap... 

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:29, Laylabelle said:

But this is the patten.. Think ah don't worry got time.. Don't worry got time... Don't worry. Oh shit there's a week left!!

Early days but expect more of the same.. Hoping not!! And if we get re linked with Carroll or some other crap... 

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Yes but if the media are to be believed, Sarri is as good as a done deal. It's simply a case of negotiating with both Napoli and Conte, and the club are right to do so to fetch the best deal otherwise these two deals could impact and eat into the transfer budget this summer.

If the above is simply formalities and getting the most satisfactory deal for the club, then I'm sure we are already laying the groundwork too for transfer targets. Who's to say Chelsea also want to have discussions with Napoli because we want a player or two from them and feel that we may get a better deal negotiating as a package.

The club do need to be efficient this summer and learn from the mistakes made last year, but I wouldn't be worried just yet and would expect to see developments on both fronts over the next 7-10 days this side of the world cup.

Also it's a little ironic that some of the players we've been linked with more heavily so far this window aren't actually playing in the World Cup (Jorginho, Seri, Icardi, Bailey, Pulisic), so maybe again if the media are to be believed with some of our targets, the World Cup will not impact on this.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:03, Superblue_1986 said:

Let's put things into a bit of perspective everyone. We're coming off the back of a weekend and a bank holiday over here. There was never likely to be any movement or announcements over this period and the board may have realised that themselves to give us a little bit more time to sort things out.

If the media reports are to be believed, we've had the marathon meetings with Sarri's advisers and reportedly Sarri met Roman in Russia last week. I'm sure as part of selling his grand vision to the board, he's already identified and discussed transfer targets. There's nothing to suggest that we're not working hard on these at the moment, as well as sorting out the manager situation. The board rarely give much away and a lot of the speculation from the media is just that because they have no idea themselves.

Liverpool have announced Fabinho subject to personal terms, but United and City links are nothing but pure speculation at the moment. And Spurs and Arsenal too don't seem to be linked at the moment with much.

If another week goes by with nothing I would start to ask questions, but for now I don't think we should be overly worried.

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Yes, even football directors take days off.

 

The clause expires Thursday, could be a lot of stuff happening by then.  Lets see

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

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But there is no chance Sarri comes here and works with what he has got.  I think, in part, he had to work with that mandate at Napoli as they aren't a club with substantial wealth.  We are. 

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:55, ChelseaFanUK said:

DOUBLE POST:

 

But there is no chance Sarri comes here and works with what he has got.  I think, in part, he had to work with that mandate at Napoli as they aren't a club with substantial wealth.  We are. 

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I think some people have been listening to Conte too much. Between the summer and January we spent a lot of money in the market. Yes we sold players, and yes a number of those buys haven't worked out but the idea that we are no longer prepared to spend money is a myth.

As I said previously, hopefully we only need say 3 top players to help improve the team this summer with a couple more from the loan army to freshen up the squad a little further. This hopefully will allow us to identify a higher calibre of player compared to last season.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:13, AK-3001 said:

I agree with you. Also the legalities of sacking Conte seems to be a problem right now. I do expect the announcement by Thursday. I hope we are already working on the players that we will be signing under Sarri. 

 

But it's a mess at the club right now. We need a squad overhaul (yet again) and still don't have the targets, let alone negotiate for them and low balling for them for a month at least, cause that's how it's done here at Chelsea.

It's not good when other clubs have become so much stronger. Liverpool have bought Fabinho already and probably will announce Fekir in a week or 10 days max. As for United, Fred looks done and dusted. City already have the kind of squad that makes you shit bricks and I'm sure they'll be adding soon.

 

And more importantly, we don't have 31st August to save us this time around. 

 

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Do we really need an overhaul? 

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 28/05/2018 at 21:58, Superblue_1986 said:

I think some people have been listening to Conte too much. Between the summer and January we spent a lot of money in the market. Yes we sold players, and yes a number of those buys haven't worked out but the idea that we are no longer prepared to spend money is a myth.

As I said previously, hopefully we only need say 3 top players to help improve the team this summer with a couple more from the loan army to freshen up the squad a little further. This hopefully will allow us to identify a higher calibre of player compared to last season.

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Then the net spend argument is brought in, which is rather ironic given we use to laugh at Liverpool and Arsenal fans for using that argument to defend Rafa and Wenger.

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 28/05/2018 at 22:03, Tomo said:

Do we really need an overhaul? 

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  On 28/05/2018 at 22:06, Tomo said:

Then the net spend argument is brought in, which is rather ironic given we use to laugh at Liverpool and Arsenal fans for using that argument to defend Rafa and Wenger.

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As an example, if the club moved on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Morata and brought back in RLC, Mount and Batshuayi would we really look at that and think we're any worse off after the former trio's performances this season. On top of that we'd probably raise some serious money on the back of it to add to a war chest to focus on 2 or 3 top signings. Or they as an example decide to stick with Morata and sell Batshuayi which will be somewhere around £50m being pocketed. The club have found a formula to stay competitive regarding our loan army of players and making profits on them.

The only area I would say needs an overhaul of sorts is at full back/wing back because if as expected Sarri adopts a back 4, in my opinion Alonso, Moses and Zappacosta would all be ill suited to that.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 28/05/2018 at 22:13, Superblue_1986 said:

 

As an example, if the club moved on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Morata and brought back in RLC, Mount and Batshuayi would we really look at that and think we're any worse off after the former trio's performances this season. On top of that we'd probably raise some serious money on the back of it to add to a war chest to focus on 2 or 3 top signings. Or they as an example decide to stick with Morata and sell Batshuayi which will be somewhere around £50m being pocketed. The club have found a formula to stay competitive regarding our loan army of players and making profits on them.

The only area I would say needs an overhaul of sorts is at full back/wing back because if as expected Sarri adopts a back 4, in my opinion Alonso, Moses and Zappacosta would all be ill suited to that.

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I wouldn't mind giving Moses a shot as Azpi's back up, i feel he could be a Valencia esque player there, ala failed winger turned good fullback. What however would be ideal is if Sarri is keeping to his one attacking one more defensive full back is if we have an attacking full back at both RB and LB rotate them and keep switching Azpi from right to left depending on who the biggest threat is out wide. Not many people are keen of Azpi at LB but i like him there, especially vs left footed right wingers and this time round we will hopefully have a better RB than father time Ivanovic.

I would say midfield was the area we need the reinforcements first and foremost, im personally not convinced by Ross or Ruben and their shady fitness will be an even bigger worry under Sarri. Baka under Sarri is a no no, he would stand out for the wrong reasons even more than he is already We only really have Kante (potentially Mount but the idea of loaning him to Fulham appeals) for me at the minute (Drinkwater as a squad player), i think even Cesc will be redundant in every way bar emergency sub.

[AK-3001 286]

  On 28/05/2018 at 22:03, Tomo said:

Do we really need an overhaul? 

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In my opinion, yes. We've bought a lot of deadwood. These positions would be my priority. 

 

Winger (at least one more provided none of the present 3 leave)

Center Mid (At least one of the Jorginho mold, This is the major cause of concern for us imo. Sarri plays 3 and I don't think anyone apart from Kante could be trusted. Maybe RLC?)

Left Back (The jury's out for this one and whether Sarri sees Emerson as someone who'd fit into the squad)

Striker (If Morata leaves) 

Contrary to a few fans, I don't think we need Koulibaly at all. Rudiger has been an amazing signing and Christensen/Cahill/Luiz is fine for the other CB spot.

 

Also, the deadwood that we've bought in Drinkwater, Zappacosta Barkley (?) Emerson (If Sarri doesn't fancy him)

 

I think the club would be willing to move Bats on for a good fees (50 million is what I've seen)

 

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

  On 28/05/2018 at 22:03, Tomo said:

Do we really need an overhaul? 

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Yes

And Eden thinks so too aparently.

[Superblue 6,372]

  On 28/05/2018 at 22:33, Tomo said:

I wouldn't mind giving Moses a shot as Azpi's back up, i feel he could be a Valencia esque player there, ala failed winger turned good fullback. What however would be ideal is if Sarri is keeping to his one attacking one more defensive full back is if we have an attacking full back at both RB and LB rotate them and keep switching Azpi from right to left depending on who the biggest threat is out wide. Not many people are keen of Azpi at LB but i like him there, especially vs left footed right wingers and this time round we will hopefully have a better RB than father time Ivanovic.

I would say midfield was the area we need the reinforcements first and foremost, im personally not convinced by Ross or Ruben and their shady fitness will be an even bigger worry under Sarri. Baka under Sarri is a no no, he would stand out for the wrong reasons even more than he is already We only really have Kante (potentially Mount but the idea of loaning him to Fulham appeals) for me at the minute (Drinkwater as a squad player), i think even Cesc will be redundant in every way bar emergency sub.

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I'm not against Azpi giving extra depth across both full back slots. On the current squad, I would say our best option is Emerson at LB and Azpi at RB. Moses would still worry me defensively. He's extremely lucky that he has Azpi behind him because if he played on the left with Cahill behind him i think he would have been exposed far more often up to now at wing back.

I think RLC needs to be given a chance next season. The lack of homegrown/English options around is frightening and the reason why we have moved for players like Drinkwater  

He would worry me being someone that would leave and flourish because I do think the ability is there and his build/presence in the middle of midfield is perfect. I also believe his game took a step up on debut for England playing alongside better players than he has at Palace and in my opinion the club needs to see if he can take an even greater step up with an even higher calibre of player at Chelsea.

Same with Barkley, his technical ability wouldn't be an issue under Sarri, he just needs coaching and a good attacking coach may be able to get the best out of him when the potential is definitely there.

For me, the midfield play maker is the key position that we need (like a Jorginho style). Fabregas can play back up to that role for a season and has shown to good effect in the last 2 years that he can be a very good option off the bench. Another top midfielder alongside Kante would be nice but I think we can get by if one wasn't signed.

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  On 28/05/2018 at 19:35, Starman60 said:

Abrahamovic out of the country and cant get back in. Conte out of the country and doesn't want to come back in. Sarri out of the country and wants to get in. So Sarri cant get in cause Roman's out and Conte's in, and until Roman comes in and puts Conte out, Sarri cant come in. Keep up peoples, it's all very simple............I think

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and Roman has become an Isreali citizen during all this..don`t know what that means regarding the visa..