The Next Manager?

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

This 3-5-2 BS will not stop, will it? 

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

42 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

This 3-5-2 BS will not stop, will it? 

I imagine next year at this time, after we'll have used a 4-4-2 (4-2-4) or similar, there will still be people claiming they're not fans of his 3-5-2 
It has been said multiple times, Conte himself said the 3-5-2 is past it.

[Unionjack 7,531]

I still think we are waiting to hear from Simeone

 

 

 

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

10 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I imagine next year at this time, after we'll have used a 4-4-2 (4-2-4) or similar, there will still be people claiming they're not fans of his 3-5-2 
It has been said multiple times, Conte himself said the 3-5-2 is past it.

Even if he uses it i think he will have a plan to make it work, but point is, we have no clue if he will and people are already crying about it won't work in the PL and CL and bla bla bla FFS

[Yeboii 1,844]

Am I the only one who is for an young manager who has done something great in recent years?
I know people like Pochettino, but what about Eddie Howe? Has been great at Bournemouth!
Mark Hughes at Stoke is also a good shout.

Man I wouldn't even be that against getting Brendan Rodgers. He knows English football, not Conte

Conte would be a good option though. I'm just afraid that he won't understand English football, and how to make his tactics work there. As we have seen, Italian football is very different from the PL.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

22 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

Am I the only one who is for an young manager who has done something great in recent years?
I know people like Pochettino, but what about Eddie Howe? Has been great at Bournemouth!
Mark Hughes at Stoke is also a good shout.

Man I wouldn't even be that against getting Brendan Rodgers. He knows English football, not Conte

Conte would be a good option though. I'm just afraid that he won't understand English football, and how to make his tactics work there. As we have seen, Italian football is very different from the PL.

Brendan Rodgers and Eddie Howe are you serious? We need a manager that can rebuild,that won trophies and Conte has rebuild Juventus and has won 3 concesutive Seri A titles and won the SuperCoppa.

[Kieran. 6,317]

lol Eddie Howe

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

12 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

Am I the only one who is for an young manager who has done something great in recent years?
I know people like Pochettino, but what about Eddie Howe? Has been great at Bournemouth!
Mark Hughes at Stoke is also a good shout.

Man I wouldn't even be that against getting Brendan Rodgers. He knows English football, not Conte

Conte would be a good option though. I'm just afraid that he won't understand English football, and how to make his tactics work there. As we have seen, Italian football is very different from the PL.

This post is so bad i don't even know where to begin 

[Yeboii 1,844]

32 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Brendan Rodgers and Eddie Howe are you serious? We need a manager that can rebuild,that won trophies and Conte has rebuild Juventus and has won 3 concesutive Seri A titles and won the SuperCoppa.

In Italy yes. Rodgers was fucked over by Liverpool (transfer commitee) and Howe has done really well with what he had/has.

29 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

This post is so bad i don't even know where to begin 

What a great point. Really great way to start a discussion on a forum

[lucio 5,418]

getting your team to 15th doesn't qualify you for the chelsea job. sorry

[Yeboii 1,844]

2 minutes ago, lucio said:

getting your team to 15th doesn't qualify you for the chelsea job. sorry

"he was the youngest manager in the Football League when appointed Bournemouth manager in January 2009.^[2] Howe rescued Bournemouth from relegation out of the Football League in his first season in charge, after the club started the season on -17 points, then led them to promotion the next. After a brief spell as manager at Burnley Howe returned to Bournemouth and led them to two further promotions in three seasons resulting in the club playing in the top flight of English football for the first time in their history. Howe's successes with Bournemouth resulted in him being given the inaugural Football League Manager of the Decade Award in 2015".

This is from wikipedia. Its not like he just got the team and getting them to 15th place. He got them from relegation in the football league to the PL for the first time in the clubs history! He is also young (38) and has proved that he can stay at one club for a long time. He is also English, which some value dearly on this forum. Some people also wanted Zola to be our manager. While he is a legend, he didn't get the team promoted to the PL and is now managing in Qatar. Not that impressive either considering your logic.

[lucio 5,418]

4 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

"he was the youngest manager in the Football League when appointed Bournemouth manager in January 2009.^[2] Howe rescued Bournemouth from relegation out of the Football League in his first season in charge, after the club started the season on -17 points, then led them to promotion the next. After a brief spell as manager at Burnley Howe returned to Bournemouth and led them to two further promotions in three seasons resulting in the club playing in the top flight of English football for the first time in their history. Howe's successes with Bournemouth resulted in him being given the inaugural Football League Manager of the Decade Award in 2015".

This is from wikipedia. Its not like he just got the team and getting them to 15th place. He got them from relegation in the football league to the PL for the first time in the clubs history! He is also young (38) and has proved that he can stay at one club for a long time. He is also English, which some value dearly on this forum. Some people also wanted Zola to be our manager. While he is a legend, he didn't get the team promoted to the PL and is now managing in Qatar. Not that impressive either considering your logic.

so, a good showing in the lower leagues, and he's ready to challenge jose, pep , klopp? 

he needs to go somewhere like newcastle and get them into the europa spots.

It would just be too great a risk, he wouldn't attract any players, we need someone like conte to do that, without CL

[Essien19 1,415]

53 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

Am I the only one who is for an young manager who has done something great in recent years?
I know people like Pochettino, but what about Eddie Howe? Has been great at Bournemouth!
Mark Hughes at Stoke is also a good shout.

Man I wouldn't even be that against getting Brendan Rodgers. He knows English football, not Conte

Conte would be a good option though. I'm just afraid that he won't understand English football, and how to make his tactics work there. As we have seen, Italian football is very different from the PL.

I get where you're coming from, but i can't see how the board is going to hire a young coach like Howie who hasn't won jack shit so far.

It's a fantasy, therefore i don't bother, the board will go with an experienced one, too often we hired a coach whose already behind his former innovative line of thoughts,
but it seems that they are reluctant to learn.

For the record, i would welcome Conte here, think he is up for the job, but in the end we're almost always talking about this kind of coach.
That's the way it is at Chelsea, could be worse, could have had Wenger who is always throwing the towel when shit hits the fan...
At least we're competitive for better or worse...

[Yeboii 1,844]

Just now, lucio said:

so, a good showing in the lower leagues, and he's ready to challenge jose, pep , klopp? 

he needs to go somewhere like newcastle and get them into the europa spots.

It would just be too great a risk, he wouldn't attract any players, we need someone like conte to do that, without CL

We had no manager when we attracted the worlds biggest young player at the time: Eden Hazard.

Well since you only base your logic on where his team is placed right now, then he is ready to challenge Mourinho. Mou didn't get us very high in the table this season did he?
Also keep in mind the squad he has and the squad Mou had.

Getting your low rated team from near-relegation in Football League 1 to the PL (and in a place where the team would still be in the PL next season) is not a "good showing" in the lower leagues. Its a terrific one! Hence the "football league manager of the decade award".

Some think I meant that we should go all out for Howe. I wasn't saying that. What I was trying to say is that he is worth a shout.

And do you think Conte is ready to challenge José, Pep and Klopp?

[Yeboii 1,844]

3 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

I get where you're coming from, but i can't see how the board is going to hire a young coach like Howie who hasn't won jack shit so far.

It's a fantasy, therefore i don't bother, the board will go with an experienced one, too often we hired a coach whose already behind his former innovative line of thoughts,
but it seems that they are reluctant to learn.

For the record, i would welcome Conte here, think he is up for the job, but in the end we're almost always talking about this kind of coach.
That's the way it is at Chelsea, could be worse, could have had Wenger who is always throwing the towel when shit hits the fan...
At least we're competitive for better or worse...

I would also, of course, welcome Conte. However, I do worry about the transition from Italy to England (Cuadrado, Salah is doing great there now). Its a whole different playstyle and all that. 
Conte is said to be very smart so I think he will adapt. Just a question of do we want another season like this one in order for that to happen?

Reports say that Roman wants a long term manager. I can't think of a better "long term manager" than a young one who has been doing well.

Just my two cents

[lucio 5,418]

4 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

We had no manager when we attracted the worlds biggest young player at the time: Eden Hazard.

Well since you only base your logic on where his team is placed right now, then he is ready to challenge Mourinho. Mou didn't get us very high in the table this season did he?
Also keep in mind the squad he has and the squad Mou had.

Getting your low rated team from near-relegation in Football League 1 to the PL (and in a place where the team would still be in the PL next season) is not a "good showing" in the lower leagues. Its a terrific one! Hence the "football league manager of the decade award".

Some think I meant that we should go all out for Howe. I wasn't saying that. What I was trying to say is that he is worth a shout.

And do you think Conte is ready to challenge José, Pep and Klopp?

hazard said "im signing for the champions league winner".   not the midtable club from london. won't be so easy this time.

and if the articles on conte are accurate, then yes, he is probably our best bet bar simeone to challenge,

maybe we will see howe in like 5 years

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

36 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

In Italy yes. Rodgers was fucked over by Liverpool (transfer commitee) and Howe has done really well with what he had/has.

What a great point. Really great way to start a discussion on a forum

Alright, lets do this.

1 hour ago, Yeboii said:

Am I the only one who is for an young manager who has done something great in recent years? Conte IS young and did something great in recent years.
I know people like Pochettino, but what about Eddie Howe? Has been great at Bournemouth! Pochettino is not much younger than Conte, nor have more impressive feats. About Howe, being great at Bournemouth doesn't mean anything, there are several steps between Bournemouth and Chelsea.
Mark Hughes at Stoke is also a good shout. Mark Hughes is crap and isn't young.

Man I wouldn't even be that against getting Brendan Rodgers. He knows English football, not Conte Yeah, let's get a crappy british manager because top Italian managers doesn't suit PL at all, remember that Ancelotti scrub that had no prior English experience?

Terrible post.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

4 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

I would also, of course, welcome Conte. However, I do worry about the transition from Italy to England (Cuadrado, Salah is doing great there now). Its a whole different playstyle and all that. 
Conte is said to be very smart so I think he will adapt. Just a question of do we want another season like this one in order for that to happen?

Reports say that Roman wants a long term manager. I can't think of a better "long term manager" than a young one who has been doing well.

Just my two cents

Managers and player are different and Mourinho probably did not know how to use Cuadrado.The premier league is not really that defferent to the Seri A.

9 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

We had no manager when we attracted the worlds biggest young player at the time: Eden Hazard.

Well since you only base your logic on where his team is placed right now, then he is ready to challenge Mourinho. Mou didn't get us very high in the table this season did he?
Also keep in mind the squad he has and the squad Mou had.

Getting your low rated team from near-relegation in Football League 1 to the PL (and in a place where the team would still be in the PL next season) is not a "good showing" in the lower leagues. Its a terrific one! Hence the "football league manager of the decade award".

Some think I meant that we should go all out for Howe. I wasn't saying that. What I was trying to say is that he is worth a shout.

And do you think Conte is ready to challenge José, Pep and Klopp?

And do you think that Howe would challenge Guardiola and Klopp? Conte has rebuild Juventus and has won 3 concesutive Seri A titles,won the SuperCoppa.Conte is tactically great and a great motivator.When Howe does somethink like this then maybe they consider him.

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

Please, there arent comparable managers to Conte in England aside from Klopp, the question should be Conte or Simeone, not Conte or Brendan Rodgers 

[Yeboii 1,844]

3 minutes ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

Alright, lets do this.

Terrible post.

My mistake. I thought Conte was much older than he is
I know Hughes isn't young. It was just an idea saying that sometimes the "small names" are good enough. Hughes isn't crap at all.

Ancelotti is a terrible example as he had won the CL recently, and is one in a thousand managers that everyone knows is a football genius. Howe is not "crappy" and has achieved a lot (some people don't think there are leagues under the PL in England apparently).

As I said before. Conte is a good manager and I would welcome him here. I was merely stating that maybe it would be a good thing to look in the direction of someone who knows "English football".