Graham Potter Thread

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

4 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

"He stands like a statue always see him fall"

I said last week give him a chance, as well as all the players.

i've changed my mind on him, After Saturday's disaster he's fucked, Moyes yet again out thinks a CFC manager, as he did TT last season.

I still believe that we should clear out at least eleven players asap, squad too big and too much crap , and get rid of Potter, as per "pinball wizard"

After Saturday's disaster he's fucked, Moyes yet again out thinks a CFC manager, as he did TT last season.

Saturday was a disaster and one we could see all the way. I was not even shocked or frustrated cos I have grown so used to these kinds of performances.

I want GP out as well but to say Moyes outthought GP is ridiculous. W'ham were incredibly poor, had real 2 chances all game due to poor defending from Cucurella. We outplayed them the first half completely and had bad luck in finishing/offside/ref corruption. Sure, there is no excuse, we should have blown such an inept WHam team out of the park but there was no tactical superiority on their side at all. They just hung on for dear life.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Magic Lamps

[Fernando 6,489]

I agree we have improve and we will continue to improve. 

Don't understand why getting all worked on since this season is lost anyways. 

What we need to is improvement from here on to the end, and what I saw at West Ham despite the tie was just that. We need to see this more and more in the coming games. 

Then end the end of the season we could make a fair assesment if the improvement was good or more of the same. 

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,531]

Orny hath spoken

[Fernando 6,489]

They would have done the same with Tuchel but he picked a fight with the wrong people. 

He is the only one to blame himself because for the first we got a owner who is patient and will give time. 

[Thor 2,447]

We do need time to get the team firing. 

I've been hit and miss with Potter, but I'm sure Arsenal fans were calling for Arteta out. A completely new style, new players everywhere, some toxicity of older standing players remaining, a few bad buys, and injuries all season... It hasn't been easy exactly. 

I mean - there is no point in changing now. We had Roberto lead us to the CL. Not like it couldn't happen with Potter considering he is a significantly better manager. Things just need to start clicking more so for chemistry and getting the players believing. 

[Vegetable 830]

50 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Don't understand why getting all worked on since this season is lost anyways.

Nothing pisses me off in this topic as this outlandish rhetoric. Season is lost because…? Surely Potter's incompetence have nothing to do with this right? So let's down the tools and drop to Championsip because season is lost and it doesn't matter what we do, but at the same time don't stop bashing the players for lack of mentality and lack of care.

Or we "lost the season" because James got injured?

Some of our fans really seem to be mistaking us for Brighton. We are not special needs Sunday league team to be happy with "improvement" in form of 10 minutes of dominating the relegation candidate. 

But sure, let's give Potter even more time, so with billion of pounds in transfers and 5 years he can "improve" us to the level we were a day before his appointment. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Vegetable

[bigbluewillie 1,862]

Well said bruv👍

Edited February 13, 2023 by bigbluewillie

[Fernando 6,489]

10 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Nothing pisses me off in this topic as this outlandish rhetoric. Season is lost because…? Surely Potter's incompetence have nothing to do with this right? So let's down the tools and drop to Championsip because season is lost and it doesn't matter what we do, but at the same time don't stop bashing the players for lack of mentality and lack of care.

Or we "lost the season" because James got injured?

Some of our fans really seem to be mistaking us for Brighton. We are not special needs Sunday league team to be happy with "improvement" in form of 10 minutes of dominating the relegation candidate. 

But sure, let's give Potter even more time, so with billion of pounds in transfers and 5 years he can "improve" us to the level we were a day before his appointment. 

lol I did not say 5 years. I say wait till the summer to see if there's progress. We are February for crying out loud, season is lost we are not going anywhere. 

Not much to do but just finish the season and see if Potter and team do improve between now in the summer to give us a glimpse of hope for next season. 

I do like Enzo and we can build a team around him. 

[Vegetable 830]

13 minutes ago, Fernando said:

, season is lost we are not going anywhere. 

Again, where it comes from? Surely if we weren't drawing and losing to all the teams from bottom of the table we'd still be in Europa and perhaps CL, right?

I seriously don't get what clicked in some people's heads that from CL winners, super cup winners and year-to-year top 4 team we suddenly became some inept relegation side in crisis just because Boehly stepped in and we should be happy when players kick the ball straight.

I don't see the need to wait for anything by Potter. He had more time than anyone else before him, he had like 13 games already to show the "improvement" and he is statistically our worst manager in 27 years. Why wait next 4 months then? Maybe better wait until we're dead so maybe he can win a cup game 1:0 against National League side?

20 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Not much to do but just finish the season

Freaking much to do - let's get someone competent for the job and start doing the work - something most of people here are expecting from players. It's not like we got point's deduction or something, so I really don't get the "season lost" by Potter fans, as if it's "lost", it's due to Potter himself.

[lucio 5,418]

57 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

We are so fucked. Only at Chelsea would the worst ever manager be afforded the most time 

[Vegetable 830]

12 minutes ago, lucio said:

We are so fucked. Only at Chelsea would the worst ever manager be afforded the most time 

With all due respect, British journos - I don't even bother to read what they have to say about their posterboy anymore. BUT from the logical standpoint, the board acts reasonable. They may despise him, but are aware that he probably has doubtful position in the dressing room, so leaking any doubts about him form the board would throw him under the bus completely and he'd have to be sacked the very same day. And I fear to think how TB would replace him, given no actual manager bar Tuchel, Poch and Enrique are available and pulling someone out of their club takes time.

On the other hand, the Raphinia (wonder if his fans from transfer topic even remember this fella) and Enzo shithousery had shown, that board has zero control of media leaks, so dunno…

Edited February 13, 2023 by Vegetable

[Hashishi 148]

The problem is I don't like the options out there. I don't want Poch or Enrique and Tuchel is never coming back. I think the owners would love a Mou 3.0 as it would provide the perfect shithousery and bending of the rules that Todd loves so much.

[Vegetable 830]

26 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

The problem is I don't like the options out there. I don't want Poch or Enrique and Tuchel is never coming back. I think the owners would love a Mou 3.0 as it would provide the perfect shithousery and bending of the rules that Todd loves so much.

Imagine Mou going with "that's life" when asked if we were shafted with a pen 😅

Anyway, as much as I'd love to think his motivational skill could do wonders with our current squad, the reasonability tells me his train is gone as well as TT's. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Vegetable

[Vesper 29,065]

Chelsea board firmly behind Potter

https://theathletic.com/4187294/2023/02/13/united-sale-qatar-var-potter/

Chelsea’s draw at West Ham United on Saturday means Graham Potter’s side have won just two of their last 13 Premier League matches, leaving them ninth in the table and 10 points off the top four.

The run of results, especially with so much money spent in the summer and January transfer windows, has led to some unrest among supporters. The Champions League is the last chance the club have for silverware this season.

But though some fans are questioning whether Potter is the right man to lead the club in the post-Roman Abramovich era, the club’s owners have no such concerns, reports David Ornstein, whose column returns next week.

 

Potter has struggled but is under no pressure (Photo: Julian Finney/Getty Images)

The feeling within the Chelsea hierarchy is that the former Brighton coach should be judged in years not months and they are confident they have one of the best managers in the game. They have a lot of changes still to make at the club and decided early on not to judge him on whether they qualify for the Champions League this season.

The leadership team feel Potter coming in mid-season with a squad that needed such a big overhaul meant success was always very unlikely in the short term and that there is still a lot of change to come to what is now a youthful team. It’s felt he has been very unlucky with injuries too.

The success of Mikel Arteta at Arsenal with a young squad after a mixed start is also seen as reassuring and the board feel that it will take some time for all the new faces to gel and understand Potter’s tactics and methods.

[lucio 5,418]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

are confident they have one of the best managers in the game. 

[Vytis33 1,171]

2 wins from 13 in the league.  With more time maybe we can win 3 or 4 in the future 
 

[NikkiCFC 8,062]

Would not be so fast to judge. 

People may argue he is here 4, 5 months but with some context he just started like a week ago imo. 

Last season we were title contender and mid table after James and Chilwell injuries. He just got them back. Plus if you add others we have double digits in terms of injuries last couple of months. January transfer window was phenomenal and new players just started and all look very good. For years we are struggling in attack and there are positive signs Mudryk, Felix will change that. Whatever success we had like winning CL for example was mostly because of defense and we lost most important player in Rudiger. Again, Badiashile looks proper so we may fix that as well. 1 goal conceded in 4 games with him. We were crying for MF overhaul and Enzo just arrived. His 3 most likely partners are still all out. Patience guys. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by NikkiCFC