Chelsea Transfers

[Superblue 6,370]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I know Ben White is 3 years younger, but if he’s worth £50m how is the price being thrown around for Zouma only €25m? Unless we’re just desperate to get rid of him which I doubt.

The same reason why Rice is being quoted at around double the price of other midfielders like Locatelli, Camavinga and the Monaco lad.

[Tomo 21,733]

5 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Also, Ole has finished in the top 4 for consecutive seasons.

I don't care if he has bungled trophy finals, but the thing is at this point, we are not yet a league title challenging side and our competition in the league is still against the likes of United and Leicester. 

Even if the likes of Sancho and possibly Varane take time to integrate, their old squad is still there. You can't tell me they are weaker for making new signings. 

Who says their weaker? They'll probably still finish top four again but as we saw with Arsenal for years and what we see with Tottenham, the mentality to win medals is either there or it isn't.

I won't be confident if we have a title race with City as I feel their experience in them will see them through, it's highly unlikely both City and Liverpool will be so poor to allow this to happen but I'd be mega confident if we end up in one with United.

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Cant wait for Kepa to concede a goal in Carabao Cup for people to say he should be number 2 😆

If he was a free transfer like Turnbull he'd be third choice (at best) already.

[Alabama 1,992]

Unpopular opinion....forget Haaland sign Tchouameni and Martinez....that guy would be immense for us...

[Pizy 18,368]

17 minutes ago, Jas said:

English tax.

 

15 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

The same reason why Rice is being quoted at around double the price of other midfielders like Locatelli, Camavinga and the Monaco lad.

True, but it’s not like Zouma is some small time player. He’s a full fledged France international who has played well in some big games for us. And he’s still relatively young as well.

The club really shouldn’t be thinking of selling him for less than like £35m. Some midtable PL club would probably pay that.

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

27 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I think a centre back becomes vital if we don't manage to tie down Rudiger and Christensen to new contracts. 

If they both commit (I assume Azpi will too) then I don't think it becomes an area of urgency. However if the right bid came in for Zouma I wouldn't be against selling him and looking at a younger centre back to come in and probably be backup initially but grow into a role that will need filling with Silva and Azpi not getting any younger. Someone comfortable to challenge Rudiger on the left side would be ideal, could Lacroix do this?

Centre midfield does seem an area that will need something unless Tuchel sees one of the loan army filling the role. The problem with that is I don't see any of them being comfortable playing in a 2 man midfield, so the market maybe where we have to enter for that. Could we conceivably run though with 4 centre midfielders who are all the profile whereby they would probably feel they should be starting regularly?

What would be your answer then for the attack? Keep Tammy or Broja and just roll with what we already have?

With the amount of games we are gonna play coming season, 4 midfielder who all are starter material will be fine. each of them will probably still get 20-40 games esp with the 5 sub rule in all competitions bar PL. Kante and Jorginho are getting old, will get injured more often so we need cover for possibly longer periods.

Similar in CB. We have to think ahead silva, Azpi are old,  the former is often injured, the latter also has to cover for rwb. Rüdiger and AC I expect both to sign new contracts. if zouma stays we can as well roll with what we have but if we want to plan for the future, this is the perfect time to blood in a promising young CB to learn his trade from some of the greatest defenders in the game.

In attack we will have to take a leap of faith. If we can't get the necessary Haaland or Kane, which we will not, there is no ready made world class striker to score the goals so we should not buy an average one. I rather take a gamble on our young players than take the gamble of signing a mediocre striker for 50m. we have to rely on our other attackers improving. broja to me looks like a shoe-in for Tuchels style, pacey, industrious, mobile. If he gets his confidence up and scores goals, i dont see why he can't contribute. Obv we have to keep Tammy to play the Giroud role.

[Superblue 6,370]

11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

With the amount of games we are gonna play coming season, 4 midfielder who all are starter material will be fine. each of them will probably still get 20-40 games esp with the 5 sub rule in all competitions bar PL. Kante and Jorginho are getting old, will get injured more often so we need cover for possibly longer periods.

Similar in CB. We have to think ahead silva, Azpi are old,  the former is often injured, the latter also has to cover for rwb. Rüdiger and AC I expect both to sign new contracts. if zouma stays we can as well roll with what we have but if we want to plan for the future, this is the perfect time to blood in a promising young CB to learn his trade from some of the greatest defenders in the game.

In attack we will have to take a leap of faith. If we can't get the necessary Haaland or Kane, which we will not, there is no ready made world class striker to score the goals so we should not buy an average one. I rather take a gamble on our young players than take the gamble of signing a mediocre striker for 50m. we have to rely on our other attackers improving. broja to me looks like a shoe-in for Tuchels style, pacey, industrious, mobile. If he gets his confidence up and scores goals, i dont see why he can't contribute. Obv we have to keep Tammy to play the Giroud role.

I think it's important that Kante continues to be managed so you're possibly right with another quality midfielder to add. 

From what it sounds Tuchel seems to like Sterling at RWB so if he can stay fit it could very well be Azpi, James and Sterling across those RWB and RCB roles. Silva and AC for the central role and then Rudiger and Zouma for the LCB role. I would prefer a better fit there than Zouma, although as backup we could have far worse.

I agree with the attack. I just don't see the players out there on the market beyond a Haaland or Kane that we can be confident will add and improve to what we already have. Given Tammy didn't really feature last season though, could it be argued that Broja would fill the Giroud role and Tammy is therefore still dispensable, even without a replacement?

[Superblue 6,370]

17 minutes ago, Pizy said:

 

True, but it’s not like Zouma is some small time player. He’s a full fledged France international who has played well in some big games for us. And he’s still relatively young as well.

The club really shouldn’t be thinking of selling him for less than like £35m. Some midtable PL club would probably pay that.

He's also a backup player for us, compared to an important player like White is for Brighton or Rice for West Ham.

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[Milan 17,854]

'Chelsea must hate Bayern'

Naah, they prepared a nice party for us at their place in May 2012.

[NikkiCFC 7,955]

39 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He's also a backup player for us, compared to an important player like White is for Brighton or Rice for West Ham.

But White is also a lot more expensive than 4 times CL winner, 3 times LaLiga winner and World Cup champion.

Barella was amazing in Cagliari and Locatelli is now great for Sassuolo but Rice will cost more than both! That is mental!

English tax is crazy! Great that we have academy who could always provide us with 5,6 squad players at least. Because alternative is paying hundreds of millions for average players...

[NikkiCFC 7,955]

32 minutes ago, Milan said:

'Chelsea must hate Bayern'

Naah, they prepared a nice party for us at their place in May 2012.

Hope we win there again in 2025 final with CHO, Kai and Werner scoring.

[Jype 6,398]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

But White is also a lot more expensive than 4 times CL winner, 3 times LaLiga winner and World Cup champion.

Varane's wage will surely be more than double than White will get at Arsenal, making him the more expensive player overall across 4-5 seasons. And that's even before taking into account White's potential re-sale value in the future. Re-sale value might not always matter for the big clubs aiming to win trophies, but for the financial side it definitely makes a big difference.

Varane is definitely the better buy for United because they need a proven player who will straight away improve their starting XI for a title challenge and should still have at least a good 3-4 years in him, but Arsenal are getting White with the intention of either having him a crucial part of their back line for the next 10 years or get a few years out of him and then sell to Man City or whoever down the line for an even bigger fee than the one they're paying now.

Completely different type of transfers, you can't really compare them.

[Special Juan 27,429]

We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde.

[Strike 7,217]

Someone check on @Vesper

[Jype 6,398]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde.

Yea, here's Romano tweet about it. 

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

3 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde.

oh fuck pls no

[calculatingInfinity 1,443]

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damn, why not get wee man in for the central defense next

Edited July 27, 2021 by calculatingInfinity