Chelsea Transfers

[Thor 2,693]

Call me crazy but is Victor Osimhen really that good? 

People always say we overspend on potential here, and we need certified ballers, etc. He has had one, just one, outstanding season. The others seasons are in line with your above average type striker.

The Italian league is... not the best for judging to say the least. Tammy in his first season went over there and put up 17 goals - and we didn't rate him one bit here. Victor had tallies of 10 and 14 before his great season last season, and now looks more in line to be back to 14-20 goals for the season.

Lautaro Martinez is a far more proven player/striker with more consistent goal tallies, yet no one wants a bar of him. 

I just don't think he is the sure fire star some people make him out to be. Different profile striker that may help us with lower blocks? Sure. But not entirely sold on "better" than what we already have so much. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,814]

Could we take a break from Tony Bloom please.
 

 

 

[Thor 2,693]

2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Could we take a break from Tony Bloom please.
 

 

 

Please no. Had one 3 goal haul and we have to pretend he is the next second coming. 

[TheHulk 2,432]

4 hours ago, Thor said:

Call me crazy but is Victor Osimhen really that good? 

People always say we overspend on potential here, and we need certified ballers, etc. He has had one, just one, outstanding season. The others seasons are in line with your above average type striker.

The Italian league is... not the best for judging to say the least. Tammy in his first season went over there and put up 17 goals - and we didn't rate him one bit here. Victor had tallies of 10 and 14 before his great season last season, and now looks more in line to be back to 14-20 goals for the season.

Lautaro Martinez is a far more proven player/striker with more consistent goal tallies, yet no one wants a bar of him. 

I just don't think he is the sure fire star some people make him out to be. Different profile striker that may help us with lower blocks? Sure. But not entirely sold on "better" than what we already have so much. 

Exactly my thoughts, this guy looks like a more polished Lukaku. I'd 100% take Wirtz or this Antonio Nusa over him, least they have room for huge improvement. Oshimhen is almost 25 and hasn't done fuck all.

Edited November 15, 2023 by TheHulk

[Strike 7,486]

1 hour ago, TheHulk said:

Exactly my thoughts, this guy looks like a more polished Lukaku. I'd 100% take Wirtz or this Antonio Nusa over him, least they have room for huge improvement. Oshimhen is almost 25 and hasn't done fuck all.

Difficult to get Wirtz in January.

I hope we can wait it out in January but unless Broja/Jackson improve and become semi-reliable, we'd need a striker to get through this season and try and get into the top 4/5

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[Fernando 6,585]

Malo Gusto has not had the impact as the others. 

Now that I'm thinking I'm analyzing who we sold this summer and who we replace. 

We got rid of Mount and Kai. I would think Palmer took the spot of Mount and in that case amazing upgrade. 

Kai I'm not sure who would take his spot, Nkunku? Because of Nkunku injury we would leave this as mute for now. 

And Jackson we had not striker so he really takes no one spot....well we did had Lukaku and Werner, so I assumer he takes one of those spot. For Lukaku awesome upgrade, for Werner.....I still love Werner despite not being a great hit. So I will put it as an upgrade for Lukaku. 

Who else we sold to upgrade their position? 

As I start to think we have done amazing in term of buys. Cucu even though improve I would still sell, not sold on him. Good he is doing fine, so we can get teams interested in him. Maatsen disappointed in him, I guess he would be sold this January. And Madueke so far he has been underwhelming. Not sure if he would amount to something great. Chalobah another one to go if any teams will take him, and Fofana, what a pity. 

 

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[Vesper 30,153]

https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost439

Issue number 439 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the 100 players in the world with the best statistics in terms of chance creation during the current season, according to an index developed from Wyscout data. At the top of the list is Paris St-Germain’s winger Ousmane Dembélé. The Frenchman outranks Leroy Sané (Bayern Munich) et Nico Williams (Athletic Club).

Killian Mbappé (PSG) and Moussa Diaby (Aston Villa) also are in the top 5, while Federico Dimarco (Inter) and Kieran Trippier (Newcastle) are the top-ranked defensive players. The top three footballers who have not yet turned 21 are Florian Wirtz (Bayer Leverkusen), Johan Bakayoko (PSV Eindhoven) and Ilya Kvasnytsya (Rukh Lviv).

A total of 33 leagues are represented in the top 100, with a maximum of 16 players from the English Premier League, where Moussa Diaby (Aston Villa) is ahead of Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) and Bruno Fernandes (Manchester United). The top three in the second most-represented league, the Italian Serie A (nine players), are Federico Dimarco (Inter), Domenico Berardi (Sassuolo) and Felipe Anderson (Lazio).

The creation index is calculated by adding the number of key passes (for chances) and expected assists (depending on the dangerousness of the chances created) per 90', and weighting the result by the sporting level of the matches played (as a percentage difference from the overall average). Only footballers who have played at least 630 domestic league minutes for the same team during the current season are considered.

Best players worldwide: creation Index

Domestic league matches, current season, at least 630 minutes players until 13/11/2023. Data:Wyscout.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Vesper

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 14/11/2023 at 23:49, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Could we take a break from Tony Bloom please.
 

 

 

Hes going to be top notch irrespective of where he goes, how much he goes for, when he goes. I am surprised United didn’t get him in the summer instead of Hojlund. Probably if it were summer 2024 and they wanted a CF, they would of. 

We have a long standing interest since before the pre-season game v Bohemians IIRC (2018 or 2019?) where he made his first appearance age 14. We tried to get him over before Brighton got him.

Personally think he is probably better than Jackson in terms of being a more natural CF but no point stockpiling another young player who needs regular minutes.

I mean it would be typical if we neglected signing a more established, experienced CF again for another prospect as this seems to be our mantra at the moment.

As mentioned in the board thread and previously before, the sporting director boys, their head’s should roll come the summer irrespective of where we finish as they have made poor decision after decision since being involved in recruitment since January be it prices we’ve paid, who we’ve signed or the obvious not signing players of a certain experience/proven quality. The likes of Madueke, Mudryk, Ugo, Lavia, Santos…. money that should of been better spent elsewhere or more on quality. Then theres the Emma Hayes situation on the womens side. They’ve not put up any trees and irrespective of where we finish they need to be the first ones cleared out for me as we cannot afford another window or two of wasting huge sums on poor signings and stockpiling positions we don’t need too many bodies in. 

I mean look at Villa, how is it that they somehow can have one of the most competent directors of football out there such as Monchi whilst we have 2 clowns intent on turning us into Ajax or Monaco? I hope we throw bags and bags of money at Michael Edwards in the summer. 

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[DDA 9,935]

Some of you may be interested in this!

An evening with Fabrizio Romano @ Eventim Apollo London on Monday 11th Decemeber 23.

Could be sharing some interesting insight into some of our transfer sagas.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by DDA

[Tomo 21,751]

I wish I bookmarked the bizarre meltdowns when Poch rightly decided against signing him permanently.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

9 hours ago, Tomo said:

I wish I bookmarked the bizarre meltdowns when Poch rightly decided against signing him permanently.

Yep.

Severely overrated. Nobody knows his best position. No real consistency the past 3 or 4 years. No real end product.

Atletico are stuck with him as nobody is buying him for 70/80m. They paid 120m him too, insane. He will likely be loaned again as Barca won’t have the capital to pay that fee and Simeone doesn’t want him there at all.