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20 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

£75m for Kai wouldn't appease you?

If Arsenal are willing to drop that sort of money, we should be more than pleased.

Did you miss most of last season?

He'll turn up for the odd game before missing sitters for months. There's talent there, but we can't afford to wait longer if a serious offer comes our way, regardless of who it's from.

All the reporters are saying we won’t get near £75m. At that price I’d sell.

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19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

All the reporters are saying we won’t get near £75m. At that price I’d sell.

Fair enough. I'm going after that figure rather than the farcical numbers that have been floating around.

One plus point of having Marina around is that she drove a hard bargain when other clubs started sniffing around.

27 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

There are opinions and facts. Achievements are facts: Gallagher has none.

Speaking of facts, your premise is incorrect: nothing is "all of the sudden" because people who rated Mount and Kai have always done do.

Now an opinion: Mount is a good player, Kai is a good player, and Gallagher isn't a good player. Pitting these players together trying to force a silly opinion to others. They are not equal... never been.

He specifically stated "quality players". None of the three players have fallen under that bracket for me, and I'd imagine a large number of the fan base as well. 

We don't need "good players" for two months in a full season; we need them for most of the season, if not all of it. 

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24 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

There are opinions and facts. Achievements are facts: Gallagher has none.

Speaking of facts, your premise is incorrect: nothing is "all of the sudden" because people who rated Mount and Kai have always done do.

Now an opinion: Mount is a good player, Kai is a good player, and Gallagher isn't a good player. Pitting these players together trying to force a silly opinion to others. They are not equal... never been.

Shows how toxic and divided our fanbase is then when there is this much divide on who should go and where to. I have not seen anything from Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, or Gallagher to suggest either of them will drastically improve the rival club that's shown interest. And yes I will put Gallagher with those 3 as the football I have witnessed with my eyes this past 9 months from all 4 of them have soared new lows at this club. Those 4 in particular have given me legitimate Vietnam PTSD for years to come with the football I have witnessed. 

If Gallagher is shit, Havertz is shit wrapped in gold foil. 3 months of good form in 2021 isn't going to change my perspective on him. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Fair enough. I'm going after that figure rather than the farcical numbers that have been floating around.

One plus point of having Marina around is that she drove a hard bargain when other clubs started sniffing around.

He specifically stated "quality players". None of the three players have fallen under that bracket for me, and I'd imagine a large number of the fan base as well. 

We don't need "good players" for two months in a full season; we need them for most of the season, if not all of it. 

That's nitpicking. Players go from good to great within a season, or even within the same game. 

Suppose the valuation these players have may be baffling if you think they belong in Aston Villa. 🤷‍♂️

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7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Shows how toxic and divided our fanbase is then when there is this much divide on who should go and where to. I have not seen anything from Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, or Gallagher to suggest either of them will drastically improve the rival club that's shown interest. And yes I will put Gallagher with those 3 as the football I have witnessed with my eyes this past 9 months from all 4 of them have soared new lows at this club. Those 4 in particular have given me legitimate Vietnam PTSD for years to come with the football I have witnessed. 

If Gallagher is shit, Havertz is shit wrapped in gold foil. 3 months of good form in 2021 isn't going to change my perspective on him. 

 

 

are you fucking kidding me? really?

I will be eternally grateful to Mount and Kai for winning the most important silverware there is! I'm a fan and as such I immensely respect winners, which Kai and Mount are (fact not opinion).

Now if we go into opinion, IMO you are projecting. You are projecting club and team situations onto players. The influence isn't that significant, IMO. ex. merely exchanging players won't solve the problems the team has. The same players will do way better elsewhere.

I will stick to my opinion that pitting Gallagher with Mount and Kai is disingenuous to say the least.

The valuation of the players corroborate that as well.

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2 minutes ago, Mário César said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/06/14/newcastle-united-transfer-news-nicola-barella-deal-50m/

Yes sure, and United is pushing for a 40m deal for Mount as we heard earlier today. Doesnt mean its accepted. 

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