Chelsea Transfers

[the wes 7,212]

If the ban is  lifted in January that's put in a bid for Zaha 

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, the wes said:

If the ban is  lifted in January that's put in a bid for Zaha 

[Vesper 30,185]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

Palace will be fighting to avoid relegation I think, so zero chance they will sell him for anything short of INSANE cash.

TBH, I would much rather have a go for Richarlison in the summer, and let Everton grab Zaha, they both will go for roughly the same money and next summer Richarlison (4 and a half years younger) will be 23 (basically the whole season, he turns 24 on May 10th, 2021), whilst Zaha will be 27yo, and turns 28 on November 10, 2020. I see NO reason to spend £70m, £80m on a player who we only get two full sub 30yo seasons out of.

Zaha (and Martial) still only really intrigue me, (for the amount of money they would cost) as CF's.

here are the best wingers in the EPL atm

no real order, and my baseline is who would I take over Pedro or Willian at this exact minute (some due strictly to their age, IF Pedro was 24,25, NO FUCKING WAY would I trade/sell him unless we are talking Sterling, Mane, Salah, Bernardo, or maybe Sane (probably not Sane, Pedro was a BEAST when he was younger)

the ONLY wingers who are remotely available who interest me at all on here are

Martial (as a CF especially and he is not really available, we fucked that up BAD when Mo was there and he wanted to swap Martial for Willia plus cash, and Marina got CHEAP as fuck and didnt toss in the £20m or so to get it done, now we may lose Willian on a free and Martial is still worth £70, £80m, fuck that bitch Russian twat)

Richarlison

and Zaha (BUT only if he is around £45-50m or so, due to his age next year, and Palace will never sell him for that low, even at the 27/28 he will be next season, I just do not think he is worth £80m next summer, would much rather pay that for Chiesa, who I rate at £70-75m and is only 21yo now, and 22yo next summer)

Nelson and Sarr and James (United will never sell James now) all intrigue, but need to see what they can do over a full season or two

The following will get me a tonne of stick, but who would be an absolute MONSTER under Lamps is Son, he is one of the most underrated players in the world, and when Kane is down, and he is played centrally, he is almost as productive as old punchy-face Harry. He will never be sold by Levy now, as there is a good shot Kane leaves next year, as he wants trophies, and he will never get them at Spuds.

 

 

[the wes 7,212]

 

[the wes 7,212]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

Palace will be fighting to avoid relegation I think, so zero chance they will sell him for anything short of INSANE cash.

TBH, I would much rather have a go for Richarlison in the summer, and let Everton grab Zaha, they both will go for roughly the same money and next summer Richarlison (4 and a half years younger) will be 23 (basically the whole season, he turns 24 on May 10th, 2021), whilst Zaha will be 27yo, and turns 28 on November 10, 2020. I see NO reason to spend £70m, £80m on a player who we only get two full sub 30yo seasons out of.

Zaha (and Martial) still only really intrigue me, (for the amount of money they would cost) as CF's.

here are the best wingers in the EPL atm

no real order, and my baseline is who would I take over Pedro or Willian at this exact minute (some due strictly to their age, IF Pedro was 24,25, NO FUCKING WAY would I trade/sell him unless we are talking Sterling, Mane, Salah, Bernardo, or maybe Sane (probably not Sane, Pedro was a BEAST when he was younger)

the ONLY wingers who are remotely available who interest me at all on here are

Martial (as a CF especially and he is not really available, we fucked that up BAD when Mo was there and he wanted to swap Martial for Willia plus cash, and Marina got CHEAP as fuck and didnt toss in the £20m or so to get it done, now we may lose Willian on a free and Martial is still worth £70, £80m, fuck that bitch Russian twat)

Richarlison

and Zaha (BUT only if he is around £45-50m or so, due to his age next year, and Palace will never sell him for that low, even at the 27/28 he will be next season, I just do not think he is worth £80m next summer, would much rather pay that for Chiesa, who I rate at £70-75m and is only 21yo now, and 22yo next summer)

Nelson and Sarr and James (United will never sell James now) all intrigue, but need to see what they can do over a full season or two

The following will get me a tonne of stick, but who would be an absolute MONSTER under Lamps is Son, he is one of the most underrated players in the world, and when Kane is down, and he is played centrally, he is almost as productive as old punchy-face Harry. He will never be sold by Levy now, as there is a good shot Kane leaves next year, as he wants trophies, and he will never get them at Spuds.

 

 

I like Richarlison but Everton are nightmare to do deals with it wouldn't surprise me Everton would want £100m for him 

[Vesper 30,185]

2 minutes ago, the wes said:

I like Richarlison but Everton are nightmare to do deals with it wouldn't surprise me Everton would want £100m for him 

at least £80m, which is the max I would pay, if we are talking £100+m for a winger that means Sancho (who may cost well over that, perhaps close to Sterling level quid, eeeek and whom I say Shiity buys anyway IF Sane goes to Bayern), Ousmane Dembélé (not worth it from all that I see)  and Bernardo Silva (who Shitty will never sell to us either, and who I see as their David Silva role replacement)

Obviously

Mbappe

Neymar

Messi

Mane

Salah

are not going anywhere OR are £150m to £250m

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

14 hours ago, the wes said:

If the ban is  lifted in January that's put in a bid for Zaha 

If we can buy in January I also think we will go for Zaha. And he would probably force the transfer. I'm not saying we should do it. 

[the wes 7,212]

37 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

If we can buy in January I also think we will go for Zaha. And he would probably force the transfer. I'm not saying we should do it. 

Offer palace £40m and batsman 

[11Drogba 2,000]

On 8/31/2019 at 8:38 PM, Vesper said:

hard pass on  Everton Soares, same for David Neres

I think they are both overpriced and not worth a gamble

True but I hope he doesn't sign for any of our rivals in England.

 

[Vesper 30,185]

16 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

True but I hope he doesn't sign for any of our rivals in England.

 

Renato is on serious drugs, they think the Campeonato Brasileiro is the 4th best football league in the world, roflamoooooo

 

 

[11Drogba 2,000]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Renato is on serious drugs, they think the Campeonato Brasileiro is the 4th best football league in the world, roflamoooooo

 

 

I don't know who is, he retweeted Everton's goals but those tweets are gone now. I added youtube videos of his goals.

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

I'm not sold on Zaha yet but what gives me hope is that Mane had very similar stats in Southampton. 

[Vesper 30,185]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

I'm not sold on Zaha yet but what gives me hope is that Mane had very similar stats in Southampton. 

Not really, Mane was already superior, plus Mane was only 22, 23, 24yo at SOTON, (we would be buying a soon to be 28yo Zaha if we buy him in the summer) and he already had big scoring years before that (granted in a small league). Up until last season (and 10 goals all comps is hardly a massive haul, Pedro had 13 last year) Zaha had never scored in double digits at top-flight level, nor even in the Championship.

Mane

Zaha

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Not really, Mane was already superior, plus Mane was only 22, 23, 24yo at SOTON, (we would be buying a soon to be 28yo Zaha if we buy him in the summer) and he already had big scoring years before that (granted in a small league). Up until last season (and 10 goals all comps is hardly a massive haul, Pedro had 13 last year) Zaha had never scored in double digits at top-flight level, nor even in the Championship.

Mane

Zaha

I'm compering Mane's two seasons in Southampton with Zaha's last two seasons in Palace. 

Mane 21 goals and 9 assists =30

Zaha 19 goals and 8 assists =27

Similar level of clubs. Zaha could benefit from playing in bigger team with better team mates. With CHO and Pulisic we definitely need some more experienced winger. Of course I'd rather have Sancho here but if we are really after Zaha I'm just trying to look as positive as possible. 

[Vesper 30,185]

24 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I'm compering Mane's two seasons in Southampton with Zaha's last two seasons in Palace. 

Mane 21 goals and 9 assists =30

Zaha 19 goals and 8 assists =27

Similar level of clubs. Zaha could benefit from playing in bigger team with better team mates. With CHO and Pulisic we definitely need some more experienced winger. Of course I'd rather have Sancho here but if we are really after Zaha I'm just trying to look as positive as possible. 

You are cherry-picking seasons

Mane's 10 and 15 goal years were his first ever top-flight seasons in a major league

Zaha scored zero and 4 goals his first 2 top flight seasons, and had TWO league goals in 34 EPL games his third, 6 EPL goals in his first 79 EPL games (and he was hardly a teen, he was 21, 22, 23yo)

He is still far from setting the league on fire, since those first 3 years, he has 26 league goals in 102 games plus 5 non EPL games and in those 5 games he scored zero goals in them

I cannot recco Zaha for £80m.

It is an outrageous over-valuation, especially as we would only get 2 full sub 30yo seasons out of him.

[Atomiswave 6,117]

Our ambition must be higher, he wont cut it here. Not for 70-80m they would want. Much rather add 20m on top and get Sancho etc. Cash doesnt grow on trees, we must be smarter than that.

[the wes 7,212]

Love to sign Milan Škriniar but that's be honest hes going to cost to much we should go for Rúben Dias we could get him around about £40m 

[the wes 7,212]

According to Football London , Chelsea have at least £230m in the summer to play with after some huge player sales in the previous transfer window - and £170m in January.

[Superblue 6,372]

23 minutes ago, the wes said:

According to Football London , Chelsea have at least £230m in the summer to play with after some huge player sales in the previous transfer window - and £170m in January.

So £400m total? 

I cannot see that happening. 

I could see us possibly buying a player in January if we're allowed and then possibly a budget of around £120-150m in the summer plus whatever we sell.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

1 hour ago, the wes said:

Love to sign Milan Škriniar but that's be honest hes going to cost to much we should go for Rúben Dias we could get him around about £40m 

Yeah Dias looks the real deal.