Chelsea Transfers

[Clockwork 1,794]

9 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Talking about typical average english forward: does anyone know what will happen to CHO?

Last I read something about Lazio with Sarri

[Clockwork 1,794]

Kinda amazing how people still defend that fraud Tuchel; all of his signing like Lukaku, Sterling, CuCu, and KK are absolute deadweights that no one wants. 
 

 

[TheHulk 2,507]

Never heard of this Michael Jackson guy, don't want.

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 minute ago, TheHulk said:

Never heard of this Michael Jackson guy, don't want.

Wtf was the point of Fofana and you have Borja, another “potential” ST.

[OneMoSalah 8,887]

11 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

You originally said shit managers, so you're moving goal posts now. Havertz was just as bad for Germany at times, which is why a second-tier CF was favoured over him to lead the line. 

A style of play doesn't force players to miss chances on a frequent basis.  

It's that time again. 🙄

Neither of those players was given a proper chance, while Havertz has played 139 games thus far. Pinning your hopes on potential won't get us anywhere.

Nail on head both times but you cant argue with stupidity. Seems to be a lot of it going around.

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

I have to wonder what the rationale behind that is.

KK, Silva, & Chalobah could be leaving. Oh, you can't mention those three in the same breath because Chalobah is dreadful in comparison. I'm actually flabbergasted at how we've ended up here based on that original post.

There is really nothing else other that I called the tweet in this post silly and I stick to original take. It's cringe to me.

Can't think the opinion there could've been any clearer, "lose the entire bermuda triangle"

[Vesper 30,260]

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It's very much a game of poker with Mount. 

he went to shit after she said 'no more poker for you'

[Fulham Broadway 17,343]

44 minutes ago, DDA said:

Wait Sterling is going? 

No idea, but wouldnt be upset about it

[Vesper 30,260]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Bayern’s strategy has never been to buy 30, 31 and 32 year olds either so cannot that happening.

 now 32

 turned 31 within months 

Wagner soon turned 31, Benatia a few months later

Edited June 14, 2023 by Vesper

[Blue Armour 4,452]

1 hour ago, TheHulk said:

My biggest worry isn't that we selling all these underperforming young players but the ones we replaced them with are even more underwhelming, fucking Mudryk, Noni and Sterling.

Exactly.

It's strange that all of a sudden everyone trusts Boehly & co. to completely replenish the starting 11 after last year's disaster 

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think if he goes to United and works wirh ten Haag, it could have success story written all over it, I really do. I mean look at how the likes of Tadic, van der Beek, Ziyech etc all thrived under him at Ajax particularly in European competitions and then struggled under other managers.

In the case of Van De Beek one of the "other managers" is Ten Hag himself.

I'd say it was more the Dutch league that inflated their percieved ability, as good as that one European campaign (which still had the end result of blowing a 3 goal lead to bloody Tottenham) was, it was effectively a Leicester esque phenomenon.

[Pizy 18,984]

36 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Wtf was the point of Fofana and you have Borja, another “potential” ST.

Exactly. Why tf would we bring in a 21 year old kid to as our new striker when we’ve already got two striker of the same age. We need the finished article, ffs! 

[Blue Armour 4,452]

52 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

 

Ffs are they going to do this to evey player who doesn't sign their cracked 8 year deal?

[Mário César 1,315]

11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Exactly. Why tf would we bring in a 21 year old kid to as our new striker when we’ve already got two striker of the same age. We need the finished article, ffs! 

yeah we have broja and fofana. why another player like them?

we need world class or at least a stabilish center forward 

[Vesper 30,260]

3 hours ago, robsblubot said:

Mata was way overrated.

54 total goals produced 10 years ago for us

19 goals and THIRTY-FIVE assists

Havertz can but DREAM of numbers like that

[Mário César 1,315]

Mata overrated loooool

[ZAPHOD2319 4,822]

I have no problem selling our under performing players to rivals so they can under perform there too. I look forward to my Arsenal friends moaning loudly....please stop buying Chelsea rejects!!!

[robsblubot 3,595]

30 minutes ago, Vesper said:

54 total goals produced 10 years ago for us

19 goals and THIRTY-FIVE assists

Havertz can but DREAM of numbers like that

No argument there. He was an assist machine, and could strike the ball like few other players--better than Eden for ex.

At the same time, he wasn't all rounded. He was physically weak, and at the same time not quick enough to avoid contact, which made him somewhat of an easy prey in big games in tight spaces. He had somewhat low workrate and for that reason could not press high very well. He could still strike the ball like few others, so could still contribute even when not finding spaces. 

I think he was a very good player, but a bit single-dimensional like Fabregas and many others were. I know when you say "overrated" people immediately think you don't rate a player, but that's not the case here.

I'm just not that crazy about that type of player esp in the modern game. I prefer all players firing in all cylinders at all times.

Edited June 14, 2023 by robsblubot

[OneMoSalah 8,887]

21 minutes ago, Tomo said:

In the case of Van De Beek one of the "other managers" is Ten Hag himself.

I'd say it was more the Dutch league that inflated their percieved ability, as good as that one European campaign (which still had the end result of blowing a 3 goal lead to bloody Tottenham) was, it was effectively a Leicester esque phenomenon.

Perhaps.

I think with VdB at United and even his spell Everton, he isn’t necessarily a typical number 10 or a typical number 8 - he’s a weird player to categorise. At Ajax he and Tadic both seemed to interchange and play in this weird withdrawn CF role, particularly in CL games. Not a bad player and not a bad skillset as typically to be expected coming from Holland and Ajax but maybe just not suited to a top top club. Or PL football in a more rigid system. 

Point regarding Dutch league is also valid but the likes of Ziyech, VdB, FdJ, de Ligt all got big moves after working with ten Haag. There are different levels of ability and talent there but I think he’s shown he can bring the best out of certain players and bring them on. Has shown this particularly with likes of Marcus Rashford, Bruno Fernandes and Luke Shaw already at United. Granted Fernandes maybe stat pads certain performances but there seemed to be a bit more of that impact he had when he first arrived there last season than the huge disappearing acts he would do at times in the season before last. Likes of Shaw & Rashford would of probably been chased out of OT with pitchforks before he came in.

Thats why I get the feeling there is still enough there and enough about Mount that someone like ten Haag, Klopp or Poch could get him back on the right path but if he doesn’t want to he here, can’t force him to stay. Not expecting him to go on and become absolutely top top level but as we’ve seen under Tuchel in the CL run, on his day he can make a big impact.

[Pizy 18,984]

1 minute ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I have no problem selling our under performing players to rivals so they can under perform there too. I look forward to my Arsenal friends moaning loudly....please stop buying Chelsea rejects!!!

It just feels different to me depending on the position they play. Seeing Jorginho or Kova doin the same sort of boring stuff in midfield they did here doesn’t bother me at all. 
 

But when we see Havertz banging in goals for a rival it will be extremely annoying. Especially for the club I despise more than any other.