Chelsea Transfers

[Superblue 6,370]

16 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Pretty strange signing and fit, ngl. I’ve said here before that I like Felix as a player but he’s an odd fit in this team. He’s not a wide player and he’s not a classic striker. So where exactly does he play for us?

Anyways, he must have been TRULY desperate to leave Atleti if he agreed to come to this dumpster fire. 

Felix isn't just an odd fit for us, but I think in general. Like you said he does have a lot of talent and he's still young and likely to develop further but you feel to get the best out of him he needs to play as a second striker in very much a free role. It's a formation and style that isn't used very regularly anymore. Unless this is something that Potter is looking at, he feels very much like another square peg like Havertz is. Havertz effectively needs that role too. The problem for both of them is we still don't have that central striker (not named Auba) that can play with either of them.

The one thing I would say is at least it's a loan, albeit an expensive one. It's up to him to prove himself and I'd assume he will want to in order to get out of Atletico permanently. If he was a great success then we can look at buying him in the summer. If he struggles then at least it's not another player we'll be looking at on the books wondering how we'll move him on.

[TheHulk 1,825]

2 minutes ago, Superblue said:

Felix isn't just an odd fit for us, but I think in general. Like you said he does have a lot of talent and he's still young and likely to develop further but you feel to get the best out of him he needs to play as a second striker in very much a free role. It's a formation and style that isn't used very regularly anymore. Unless this is something that Potter is looking at, he feels very much like another square peg like Havertz is. Havertz effectively needs that role too. The problem for both of them is we still don't have that central striker (not named Auba) that can play with either of them.

The one thing I would say is at least it's a loan, albeit an expensive one. It's up to him to prove himself and I'd assume he will want to in order to get out of Atletico permanently. If he was a great success then we can look at buying him in the summer. If he struggles then at least it's not another player we'll be looking at on the books wondering how we'll move him on.

If Felix has a successful loan what makes you think he won't pick Arsenal or United in the summer to play CL? The lack of buy option is so stupid.

[Vegetable 830]

It almost feels like Boehly is looking for least attractive deal possible and jumping on it. Somehow not burned 120 million on some one-hit wonder, so time to jump onto Felix, who is pretty much copy of Havertz, except also suffering like Saul. Other clubs laughed off the offer to loan him, so obviously we are all over it! 

 

But yeah, strikerless formation with 2 suffering false 9's is gonna be some seriously avant-garde shit for sure.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Vegetable

[Gundalf 804]

24 minutes ago, Stats said:

Just no, no, no. He is a very exciting youngster but to spend this money on a player who moved for peanuts in summer is crazy.

U talking about Enzo or Lavia? 🤣

[Special Juan 27,391]

Felix can't be any worse than Havertz or Sterling, simply cannot be.

Anyway, I spoke to both Billy Gilmour and Levi on Saturday before their game with Boro, two absolute top guys

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

31 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

10M for a 6 month loan, 20 games and no buy option, this club is putrid.

We value people expressing their point of view, but you are going to need to tone down the negativity about the club. It is a transition and it has been a rough one where the new owners have done some serious naïve moves. This is however a place that people come to to enjoy being a fan of the club. The club is much more than just the new owners. It is a part of the fabric of many people's lives long before Roman owned it. 

[Superblue 6,370]

5 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

If Felix has a successful loan what makes you think he won't pick Arsenal or United in the summer to play CL? The lack of buy option is so stupid.

From what I've seen reported Atletico don't want a buy option (probably for that very reason that they're hedging their bets a successful loan will stir interest) - it's either been no option or an obligation. 

Personally, I wouldn't have entertained this deal. However, I think no option is better than an obligation because the risking of losing out to him is not as bad as the risk of being stuck with another expensive player who struggles.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,416]

Is a loan treated differently under FFP? Just curious about the expense of a six month loan.

[Vesper 28,385]

21 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Desperation settling in I guess.

WTF

IF we sign both Felix and Rice, I am going to go insane

might be time to stop caring about what we do 

as the yanks are looking like clowns atm

I know it sounds crazy arrogant

but FFS

I think my transfers targets in terms of both who to buy and who NOT to buy

blow away what we have done in the past 5 to 7 years

we have shit away at least 750m quid on shit buys (I listed them out) and that could go up to one billion if the ones we have who are still up in the air as to good or bust go bust

that a LOT OF FUCKING MONEY THAT I WOULD HAVE PUT TO FAR BETTER USE

I approved of and wanted

Kante

Pedro

Kova

Rudiger (and I would NOT have let him go on a free)

Giroud

and also was not unhappy (I cannot say I was all-out to bring him in then) at all with Thiago on a free

those 6 are THE ONLY decent, truly good to great business we have done counting the 2015/2016 windows up until NOW

thats crazy

Jorginho is arguably in there, as is Alonso but I would have sold Alonso in summer 2018 to Real for that £55m offer and replaced him (Theo, who I already had liked since his 2016/17 breakout loan with Alaves, or Jose Gaya or Alex Sandro (was 27yo then) or Alex Telles, who would have done far better IMHO in a Chels wingback role that he did at Manure), and would have sold Jorginho off and replaced him as well, after the 2021 CL win, with Bruno Guimarães (who I like from when he was in Brasil, at CAP), and sold Kante then as well and replaced him with Aurélien Tchouaméni.

 

 

[DDA 9,684]

Todd B has stood down as sporting director.

The Felix on loan with no option to buy is ridiculous.

[gdlk 264]

The whole transfer is ridiculous.. Mount, Havertz and Felix for 1 spot.. Good luck with the piece in dressing room

[Fulham Broadway 16,710]

Our transfer policy.

[YorkshireBlue 3,118]

4 minutes ago, gdlk said:

The whole transfer is ridiculous.. Mount, Havertz and Felix for 1 spot.. Good luck with the piece in dressing room

Considering, non of you want mount and havertz starting... What's the problem here? 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Just now, YorkshireBlue said:

Considering, non of you want mount and havertz starting... What's the problem here? 

There appears to be a love of complaining for the sake of it on here. Never happy

[Vesper 28,385]

Todd Boehly stands down as Chelsea's interim sporting director

Exclusive: The bulk of Chelsea's transfer business will now be handled by recent appointments Christopher Vivell and Paul Winstanley

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/01/09/todd-boehly-stands-chelseas-interim-sporting-director/

Todd Boehly has relinquished his title as Chelsea’s interim sporting director and remains steadfastly supportive of head coach Graham Potter. 

 

Chelsea’s co-controlling owner Boehly made himself interim sporting director following the departures of Marina Granovskaia and Petr Cech last summer and led transfer negotiations himself.

 

But, after hiring a new recruitment team, some of whom have started work in this month’s transfer window, Boehly has dropped the sporting director title and is now just Chelsea’s chairman.

 

While Boehly will still take a part in Chelsea’s spending, the American and his co-controlling owner Behdad Eghbali have handed the bulk of the responsibility of Chelsea’s transfers to new technical director Christopher Vivell and Paul Winstanley, who was appointed as director of global talent and transfers.

 

Vivell and Winstanley were pictured either side of new signing Benoit Badiashile last week and the duo are leading Chelsea’s strategy, not just for this month but beyond.

 

The pair will be officially joined by Joe Shields, who has been appointed as co-director of recruitment and talent, and Laurence Stewart, who has been given the title of technical director to focus on football globally, when they start work next month.

 

Boehly only ever saw his interim sporting director position as a short-term role to help get Chelsea through the summer window and to plug a gap while he and Eghbali searched for the right recruitment specialists.

 

Winstanley and Vivell have been charged with combining Chelsea’s strategy of trying to buy some of the best young talent in the world along with attempting to strengthen Potter’s squad.

 

Chelsea ideally want to sign a back-up right-back to Reece James, a new midfielder and a wide forward but it remains to be seen whether or not they will be able to fill all of those positions this month.

 

Benfica rejected a bid for Enzo Fernandez, while talks have been held with Shakhtar Donetsk over Mykhailo Mudryk and Atletico Madrid about taking Joao Felix on an initial loan. But finding a deputy to James is considered one of the most important and difficult tasks.

 

With James considered one of the best right-backs in the world and due back from injury next month, Chelsea face a tough task in trying to sell the position as his stand-in to players of the required quality.

 

Telegraph Sport reported last week that Chelsea’s owners remain supportive of Potter and that has not changed following the FA Cup defeat to Manchester City.

 

Boehly and Co are understanding of the impact made by the crippling injury crisis that has hit Potter, while there is also acknowledgement that the likes of Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp and Mikel Arteta were all given time at Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal.

 

There is confidence that results and performances will improve as players start to return from injury and the Boehly-Clearlake Capital ownership have not been swayed in their faith by chants for former coach Thomas Tuchel and ex-owner Roman Abramovich at the FA Cup defeat to City.

 

Chelsea are waiting on the result of a second scan on Raheem Sterling, who pulled his hamstring in the first minute of last Thursday night’s League defeat to City.

[OneMoSalah 8,754]

So we are going to stump up the 9m + all of Felix’s wages. We need a striker badly but he’s not even a proper CF, fair enough he offers something different but again the one word you’d describe him as is inconsistent. And we have too much of that in attack. 

No option to buy is risky but apparently they were wanting an obligation to buy from us, Utd or Arsenal and am sure it was around £80m or something daft. Or so it was reported. Personally don’t see him doing enough here to warrant that sort of fee. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[gdlk 264]

What does Felix offer more than Mount or Havertz? 

[Fulham Broadway 16,710]

Just now, ulsterchelsea said:

There appears to be a love of complaining for the sake of it on here. Never happy

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