Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Not liking these Mata's strories one bit, worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I mean look at how Bayern destroyed us last week and they were playing Kroos in the pivot. People overrate the worth of defensive midfielders greatly, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Can't believe people are asking for more players. You guys really don't understand how spoilt we've been.Spoilt why ? We all like to see the best Chelsea team money can buy. That´s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 DM's are overrated. Just play Oscar in the damn pivot and pair him with whoever can make a challenge. Move Mata back into the #10 spot.Thinking about it, I'm not so sure if Oscar is built to play as a DM.. I feel his best stats come from the attacking side of things. I don't think he's well balanced or strong enough to play the CDM role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I mean look at how Bayern destroyed us last week and they were playing Kroos in the pivot. People overrate the worth of defensive midfielders greatly,Excuse me, but are you watching Chelsea´s games at all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 DM's are overrated. Just play Oscar in the damn pivot and pair him with whoever can make a challenge. Move Mata back into the #10 spot.I agree with you in a sense.. Play Ocar next to a bully and Mata as 10.. But we don't have that bully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Spoilt why ? We all like to see the best Chelsea team money can buy. That´s all.We have a squad good enough to win the League that's why. Rather than stockpiling players why not give the players we've got a go.All it takes its some tactical innovation and trust. Lampard would be on loan to Liverpool or Arsenal this year if we bought the 21 year old version last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara 19 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ba on loan to arsenalhttp://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2013/09/02/4232267/chelsea-demand-2m-fee-for-ba-loan-to-arsenal?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 what were the other big mistakes he made ????his transfers are misses too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Thinking about it, I'm not so sure if Oscar is built to play as a DM.. I feel his best stats come from the attacking side of things. I don't think he's well balanced or strong enough to play the CDM role.He's a brilliant ball winner. People continue to underestimate him because of his build but he constantly makes more challenges than any other player in the team in nearly every game.Oscar is better than Lampard in everything apart from goal scoring at the moment. Why couldn't he replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ozil to me is very finely skilled player. His technical ability I admire the most. Yes, I agree Mata is very much the same even a bit better, I feel. The trouble with these players Jose is not their fan, I feel. No way is Mata better than Ozil. Sorry but I think Ozil is better. Ozil is the best attacking midfield player I have seen emerge in the last 3 or 4 years or so. Mata is very good but Ozil is brilliant. When hes fully fit and up for a game hes immense. Didn't have the greatest season last year but still I think for the last 5 years hes averaged something like 15 assists per year.... which is incredible. When you take into mind that he was playing for Werder Bremen before Madrid who were really an average team when he was as well its an incredible stat. This is literally the best assist I have seen.. he shows so much awareness and technically its immense. I don't actually get why Madrid are selling him when Ozil is much better than Isco imo. I guess this Madrid lacking a lot of Spanish players is a major thing these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 We have a squad good enough to win the League that's why. Rather than stockpiling players why not give the players we've got a go.All it takes its some tactical innovation and trust. Lampard would be on loan to Liverpool or Arsenal this year if we bought the 21 year old version last season.I referred to Chelsea being outplayed by Bayern, were they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 No way is Mata better than Ozil. Sorry but I think Ozil is better. Ozil is the best attacking midfield player I have seen emerge in the last 3 or 4 years or so. Mata is very good but Ozil is brilliant. When hes fully fit and up for a game hes immense. Didn't have the greatest season last year but still I think for the last 5 years hes averaged something like 15 assists per year.... which is incredible. Not to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ozil to Arsenal is a great deal for them.I'm shocked with his stats to be honest because God knows how much he's frustrated me and my Real Madrid-packed timeline on Twitter. It was a collective moan from many of us many times - some of which German fans.He was very lazy, uninterested and still these are his stats in the last two seasons: http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/84775/mesut-ozil?cc=3888If he decides to play as well as when he first arrived, seriously, Arsenal can become very dangerous. I'm not saying they'll become title contenders, you never know how a player will settle in a team, but I'm shocked at how productive Mesut was when really it has been very frustrating watching him more often than not.And I love him, so that makes me even more pissed about this deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Excuse me, but are you watching Chelsea´s games at all ?The only glaring problem on our team is our CM area. That's why we've been dominated by any decent team out there. Hull had more possession than us the other ffs.People keep crying over DM's and strikers but that's our major weakness in my opinion. That and are offensively challenged fullbacks.I agree with you in a sense.. Play Ocar next to a bully and Mata as 10.. But we don't have that bullyAgreed. Van Ginkel could potentially be that player though. I'd like to see him given a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 He's a brilliant ball winner. People continue to underestimate him because of his build but he constantly makes more challenges than any other player in the team in nearly every game.Oscar is better than Lampard in everything apart from goal scoring at the moment. Why couldn't he replace him.I agree. Oscar and Ramires sounds good to me, whether it works though is another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I referred to Chelsea being outplayed by Bayern, were they ?They had like 70% possession even before the red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,911 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ozil to Arsenal is a great deal for them.I'm shocked with his stats to be honest because God knows how much he's frustrated me and my Real Madrid-packed timeline on Twitter. It was a collective moan from many of us many times - some of which German fans.He was very lazy, uninterested and still these are his stats in the last two seasons: http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/84775/mesut-ozil?cc=3888If he decides to play as well as when he first arrived, seriously, Arsenal can become very dangerous. I'm not saying they'll become title contenders, you never know how a player will settle in a team, but I'm shocked at how productive Mesut was when really it has been very frustrating watching him more often than not.And I love him, so that makes me even more pissed about this dealIs that you in your avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ozil to Arsenal is a great deal for them.I'm shocked with his stats to be honest because God knows how much he's frustrated me and my Real Madrid-packed timeline on Twitter. It was a collective moan from many of us many times - some of which German fans.He was very lazy, uninterested and still these are his stats in the last two seasons: http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/84775/mesut-ozil?cc=3888If he decides to play as well as when he first arrived, seriously, Arsenal can become very dangerous. I'm not saying they'll become title contenders, you never know how a player will settle in a team, but I'm shocked at how productive Mesut was when really it has been very frustrating watching him more often than not.And I love him, so that makes me even more pissed about this dealPersonally, I would not worry about Arsenal. To me, this deal has to be done. Sort of last straw deal. Arsenal still not good. enough. Can you imagine if Wenger had not bought anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrayzayBarnet 126 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 According to Expressen PSG ready to offer Zlatan + €11,4M for Chelsea midfielder Juan Mata. I hope we tell them where to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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