Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, TheHulk said: He wasn't even a starter for Brighton, he doesn't want to stay not because of fighting for a starting place but because he doesn't believe shit in this project and because last year when he wanted to stay and fight for his place we almost binned him completely. not a regular one, true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 11 hours ago, LAM09 said: Do Haller and Jovic ring any bells? I'm sceptical about attackers coming from Germany in general, as most have failed to show up after making the move in recent times. Dzeko and Son are the only two that come to mind who were exceptions. 8 more Håland De Bruyne Firmino Leroy Sane Aubameyang Ilkay Gundogan Dimitar Berbatov (122 goals in 7 and a half seasons) Ballack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Mário César said: we are hiring a lot of youngsters but not young central defenders. we have two options at worst: (a) renew him for just one year and thus leave the club stronger on a possible sale and stay at least one more year with him to see how it goes. if things don't go well, he can be sold and we get a strong amount for him b) not renew and bet on him even with only two years of contract. if it goes wrong, we'll sell him next year. we'll lose a bit of money, but i doubt the club will be prepared to buy a central defender this year, given the amount of players that will be sold and even more the players the club will try to hire for other positions. two years contract gives us a strong position on the situation the team is under renovation and we already have at least nkunku signed, who is a good bet, and possibly caicedo, who is another young player with a lot of potential we also have poch, who is a player that works very well and develops young players very well there's no reason to be sold this year nor can the club lose another central defender and be busy trying to hire another one. we have other priorities The only players that agree to one year extensions are the likes of Baka, Batsh*t and Baba who know that the extra year gives them a bit more security with their current wage which they'll unlikely get elsewhere. Anyone who knows they can get a decent move and more money elsewhere isn't signing those. Or, you get a Mbappe situation where you throw money at them, then they don't play ball six-18 months down the line. Anyway, Levi has three years left atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Mário César said: we have already sold koulibaly and next year thiago silva will no longer be here. what else does he want? we have three good central defenders with a lot of potential. what else does he want? and Trevoh may be sold if the right offer comes in in which case we DEFFO need a right footed CB plus this is probably Thiago's last season with us (inless he does stay until he turns 40, like he said a while back, to equal Maldini playing at 40) Ronald Araújo (pipe dream, but hey, wth, lol) António Silva Giorgio Scalvini (probably the next great Italian CB) Bremer Robin Le Normand José María Giménez (last season on my list, he turns 30 in the middle of the next season after this one, plus is/was often injured in his prime years) Jean-Clair Todibo Mohamed Simakan Pierre Kalulu (might not be up to the physicality of the EPL) Perr Schuurs (Napoli want him to replace Kim Min-jae, who turned down Manure for Bayern yesterday, Klopp wants him too) Nathan Collins (best of the available HG CBs) Nicolò Casale (Sarri has turned him into a beast at Lazio) Ilya Zabarnyi (monitoring him at Bournemouth) Malick Thiaw Taylor Harwood-Bellis (if Citeh sells him) Anel Ahmedhodzic (the new top Swedish CB soon) Merih Demiral Josip Sutalo ( after Gvardiol, er haps the next great Croatian CB) Leny Yoro (17yo potential monster) Edited July 9, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Random idea: Cancello Cucu swap deal? Cancelo is poison and turns 30yo at the end of this coming season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,764 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 The silence on Caicedo is deafening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just now, Special Juan said: The silence on Caicedo is deafening watch us cock it up I am starting to get a wee bit worried IF we think we are not going to buy him we should deffo go HARD for Nicolò Barella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, LAM09 said: I feel like we either need a WC GK or CF during this window. If we fail to sign either, it will come back to haunt us before Christmas. same for DMF LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, bluesman2610 said: What we need is a top quality keeper near 30 years old who we can have around for minimum 2 years to maximum 5 years to see how Slonina develops. Valencia keeper would be great but he’s only 4 years older than Gaga who is supposed to be our future. but at £21.5m, Mamardashvili is an absolute steal bluesman2610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, LAM09 said: Osimhen. Not only is he the perfect fit, but he would actually love to play for the club and follow in his idol's footsteps (Drogba). There's no point going on about price at this point when Mbappe will probably end up costing two or three times more when all is said and done. However, if the club really think Vlahovic is the solution, I'll be disappointed. the poison dwarf says €180m or no deal and he is a fucking cunt to deal with like I said I think PSG get Osimhen after they sell Mbappe unless they do a Vini Jr (plus maybe some cash) for Mbappe swapperoo and even then, PSG may well go for Osimhen, at which point we should make a hard play for the superb LB Nuno Mendes (to help them raise cash for the buy) and sell CuCu to the Saudis Edited July 9, 2023 by Vesper LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, bluesman2610 said: I also rate Kolo Mauni because he scores but also assists a lot and having a pairing of him with Nkunku could yield a devastating partnership. has Eintracht come down from the €100m demand for Kolo? same price as Atalanta is (or was) crazily demanding for Rasmus Højlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Mário César said: we are hiring a lot of youngsters but not young central defenders. we have two options at worst: (a) renew him for just one year and thus leave the club stronger on a possible sale and stay at least one more year with him to see how it goes. if things don't go well, he can be sold and we get a strong amount for him b) not renew and bet on him even with only two years of contract. if it goes wrong, we'll sell him next year. Colwill's currently under contract till 2025 and there is said to be a clause in his deal with an automatic one year extension if he plays 15 PL games for the club. If he stays then surely that clause will be triggered this season already so even if he doesn't sign a new deal with a big pay increase his deal will still be extended by one more year. Having him tied up till 2026 would mean the club are in a strong negotiation position even next year if a sale were to be a topic of discussion. A good season for us and two years left on the contract we could easily demand £80M+ if someone wanted to snap him up and/or the player himself demanded to go. Under no circumstance should he be sold this year, unless he specifically demands it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Blue Armour said: But the thing is Clearlake & Co. have a lot to make up for after last season. Behdad Eghbali stepped in late and big daddied the Boehly shenanigans, after talking to the old head billionaire Hansjörg Wyss and also the other Clearlake big boy, José Feliciano. Eghbali and Feliciano are no jokes. They co-founded Clearlake with another young quant, Steven Chang, and when Chang was getting too big for his britches they forced him out. He went on to found a much smaller (compared to the massive Clearlake) investment firm, Allomer Capital Group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: We're possibly talking about the best academy player we've had since Reece/Mason made the breakthrough to first team football If we can't give Colwill meaningful minutes this season then is there a point in having an academy? 100 per cent agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said: The ones that tend to struggle are the attacking midfielders who don't really have a clear position KdB Fucking Mou tried to force him to be a winger and now, 9 and a half years after he was properly switched to AMF, the very next year and a half at VfL Wolfsburg: Reddish-Blue and LAM09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vesper said: KdB Fucking Mou tried to force him to be a winger and now, 9 and a half years after he was properly switched to AMF, the very next year and a half at VfL Wolfsburg: Why you post that images? Jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Tbh the idea of swapping Lukaku for Vlahovic with a bit of money going to Juve (circa £25m) is still very attractive to me, if they'd go for it. Have some doubts about him based on his season but his output in his bad season is more or less identical with Lukaku's output, and he's only 23. It would be a good deal for all parties in some way. Clockwork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: and Trevoh may be sold if the right offer comes in in which case we DEFFO need a right footed CB plus this is probably Thiago's last season with us (inless he does stay until he turns 40, like he said a while back, to equal Maldini playing at 40) Ronald Araújo (pipe dream, but hey, wth, lol) António Silva Giorgio Scalvini (probably the next great Italian CB) Bremer Robin Le Normand José María Giménez (last season on my list, he turns 30 in the middle of the next season after this one, plus is/was often injured in his prime years) Jean-Clair Todibo Mohamed Simakan Pierre Kalulu (might not be up to the physicality of the EPL) Perr Schuurs (Napoli want him to replace Kim Min-jae, who turned down Manure for Bayern yesterday, Klopp wants him too) Nathan Collins (best of the available HG CBs) Nicolò Casale (Sarri has turned him into a beast at Lazio) Ilya Zabarnyi (monitoring him at Bournemouth) Malick Thiaw Taylor Harwood-Bellis (if Citeh sells him) Anel Ahmedhodzic (the new top Swedish CB soon) Merih Demiral Josip Sutalo ( after Gvardiol, er haps the next great Croatian CB) Leny Yoro (17yo potential monster) You can take Collins off the list, just recently moved to Brentford for 23 million. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: KdB Fucking Mou tried to force him to be a winger and now, 9 and a half years after he was properly switched to AMF, the very next year and a half at VfL Wolfsburg: Yea, I remember that. Mourinho coming out and basically saying that KdB didn't really adapt to his training methods and then proceeding to strongly back Oscar over him (because Oscar did the dirty work/tracked back). It really is a shame that we sold KdB for peanuts to the Bundesliga without even giving him a chance to play in his natural position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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