Chelsea Transfers

[Hashishi 148]

27 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Anyone else simply not arsed if Mount leaves?

I think he's really good as a squad player. Homegrown and a workhorse. Wouldn't want him to be the first name on the sheet though...

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4 hours ago, Hashishi said:

I think he's really good as a squad player. Homegrown and a workhorse. Wouldn't want him to be the first name on the sheet though...

Yeah but a squad player who wants to earn 300k pw.

If someones gives crazy money we should at least consider it.

but overall selling him without making an effort to keep him sends the wrong signal. For all his shortcomings, Mase bleeds blue and leaves everything on the pitch for the club he loves. If the club does not reward him but pay huge sums in fees & wages for useless rinsed dregs like Auba, Sterling, Fofana who are just here for the paycheck we are on our way into a downward spiral. 

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Journalist Simon Phillips has told GiveMeSport that AC Milan winger Rafael Leao has ‘had his head moved’ by Chelsea’s interest in him.

https://football-talk.co.uk/176888/Chelsea-recieve-boost-in-pursuit-of-rafael-leao/

The Portugal international has been the subject of transfer speculation with his current deal at the San Siro set to expire in the summer of 2024. Chelsea are among the clubs reportedly keeping a close watch on Leao and his current situation.

Milan have been in negotiations with Leao over a new long-term contract but the reigning Serie A champions have not been able to make any significant in-roads. Leao has been on Chelsea’s radar since the summer and as per Phillips, the West London club will try to sign him this winter.

Italian outlet Calciomercato has revealed that Leao could be available for as low as £69 million, in comparison to the massive £131 million that was being demanded by the Rossoneri last summer.

Phillips has revealed that Leao has ‘had his head turned’ by Chelsea’s interest but insisted that Graham Potter’s side are not the only ones interested in the winger.

“He has had his head turned by Chelsea’s interest, so that’s what has given Chelsea the prompt to try and get that done. But Chelsea obviously aren’t the only club that are keen on signing him.”

(via GMS)

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Gvardiol future takes decisive twist

https://www.teamtalk.com/Chelsea/huge-Chelsea-bid-doomed-man-utd-liverpool-target-future-takes-third-decisive-twist

Indeed, many within the media – such as the Telegraph’s Matt Law – reported Gvardiol’s new deal in Leipzig still contained the original and modest £44m release clause.

Sky Germany’s Florian Plettenberg was later adamant any such clause had been removed when Gvardiol extended his stay in September. However, Plettenberg has returned with another update that has clarified the situation once and for all.

He tweeted Gvardiol’s current contract does contain a release clause, and it’s a big one.

The Croatian can reportedly be signed for €110m (approx. £96m) beginning in the summer of 2024. As such, Leipzig are under no pressure to sell this coming January and any Chelsea bid is doomed to fail.

Indeed, Plettenberg added the chances are ‘good’ for Leipzig to not only retain Gvardiol through January, but also beyond next summer too. If the centre-back is going to leave Leipzig, it’ll most likely come in 2024 when his clause becomes active.

The current world record transfer fee for a defender stands at the £80m Man Utd paid Leicester to sign Harry Maguire.

Gvardiol will be 22 when his clause can be triggered, meaning any side willing to set a new world record will still be getting the best part of a decade of Gvardiol’s prime years.

Given how highly he’s already rated at age 20, it stands to reason someone will take the punt in 2024.

 

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So, Fofana is injured AGAIN (and looking like a bust as time rolls by, although it is not yet etched in stone)

AND Gvardiol will likely not be leaving Leipzig until summer 2024

AND we have no clue as to what is going on with Thiago

AND Colwill certainly is not stepping up

so................................

we need to buy 2 CBs ASAP

choose a left-footer

    
Evan Ndicka 
Piero Hincapié   
Gonçalo Inácio  

and (unless we can somehow pull Skriniar)

also a right footer who can play RB as well

Mohamed Simakan    (now that Gvardiol likely stays he will be an easier pull)

 

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Kouadio (goes by Manu now) Kone 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by Vesper

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Report: Chelsea Favourites To Sign Brazilian Midfielder Andrey Santos

Chelsea are reportedly the favourites to sign Brazilian midfielder Andrey Santos.

https://www.si.com/soccer/Chelsea/transfer-news/report-Chelsea-favourites-to-sign-brazilian-midfielder-andrey-santos

After missing out on Endrick to Real Madrid, Chelsea are keen not to let the same thing happen again when it comes to the pursuit of Brazilian midfielder Andrey Santos.

Chelsea have interest in Santos and are reportedly pulling ahead of the pack in the race for the player. A deal could be agreed as early as January if Chelsea are to push for it.

The Vasco Da Gama midfielder has a market value of €5million at the minute.

According to Matt Lawton of the Times, Chelsea are emerging as the favourites in the race for Vasco Da Gama midfielder Andrey Santos.

Chelsea's interest has been evident for a number of weeks now, and they could make a move for the midfielder in January.

The new recruitment plan at Chelsea is to identify and sign young players that can strengthen the squad, and Andrey Santos has been identified as one of those players that could boost the team.

Chelsea are not alone in their interest, with Liverpool, Manchester City and Newcastle United all sharing the same interest in the midfielder.

The Blue's will be hoping to land this one after missing out on Endrick, with the Brazilian citing hesitation on the financial side of things as the reason he did not want to join Chelsea in the end.

Andrey Santos' signature will require Chelsea to be a bit more trigger happy with their funds.

[Hashishi 148]

28 minutes ago, Vesper said:

So, Fofana is injured AGAIN (and looking like a bust as time rolls by, although it is not yet etched in stone)

AND Gvardiol will likely not be leaving Leipzig until summer 2024

AND we have no clue as to what is going on with Thiago

AND Colwill certainly is not stepping up

so................................

we need to buy 2 CBs ASAP

choose a left-footer

    
Evan Ndicka 
Piero Hincapié   
Gonçalo Inácio  

and (unless we can somehow pull Skriniar)

also a right footer who can play RB as well

Mohamed Simakan    (now that Gvardiol likely stays he will be an easier pull)

 

None of those look like superstars to me. Feel like we will pay for choosing fofana over Gvardiol over the coming years.

[Hashishi 148]

https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/20/Chelsea-jorginho-walks-out-of-interview-after-question-about-his-future-17968955/

He avoided the question so I feel like he will leave if he gets a better offer. Not the worst thing in the world IF we can find an anchor for our midfield.

He was also asked play, bench sell Modric, Bellingham, Jorginho and he said play Modric, bench Bellingham, sell himself.

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38 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

None of those look like superstars to me. Feel like we will pay for choosing fofana over Gvardiol over the coming years.

there are hardly any 'superstar' CBs out there, certainly not ones who are available, other than MAYBE Skriniar, who I did list, if he doesn't renew, and of course Gvardiol

as for Gvardiol this past summer, we offred €90m and RB said no

the Fofana STUPID buy was in addition to that deal, not because we failed (Fofana is a right footer)

Koulibaly panic buy is a better comparison

and btw, those 4 I listed are all between 20 and 23 years old, so lots of upside

 

look at the top 25 CBs (in terms of valuation) on T-Markt 

who am I missing? I have discussed them all in depth since I joined the board almost 5 years ago

Kimpembe maybe (as he is a left footer too), BUT we would only get 2 sub 30yo seasons out of him if he buy him in 2023, and he doesn't want to leave PSG (would you atm, unless it was for Real?) as they only need a couple WC or near WC midfielders and another CF to have a MONSTER club for the next season or 2, and they are also the leaders for Skriniar IF he doesn't renew

Pau Torres? (another left footer)

I don't rate him that much, he lacks pace, and makes errors too often in terms of positioning, plus he doesn't like overly physically play (hello EPL), and in that he is typical La Liga CB

Edited December 20, 2022 by Vesper

[Hashishi 148]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

there are hardly any 'superstar' CBs out there, certainly not ones who are available, other than MAYBE Skriniar, who I did list, if he doesn't renew, and of course Gvardiol

as for Gvardiol this past summer, we offred €90m and RB said no

the Fofana STUPID buy was in addition to that deal, not because we failed (Fofana is a right footer)

Koulibaly panic buy is a better comparison

and btw, those 4 I listed are all between 20 and 23 years old, so lots of upside

 

look at the top 25 CBs (in terms of valuation) on T-Markt 

who am I missing? I have discussed them all in depth since I joined the board almost 5 years ago

Kimpembe maybe (as he is a left footer too), BUT we would only get 2 sub 30yo seasons out of him if he buy him in 2023, and he doesn't want to leave PSG (would you atm, unless it was for Real?) as they only need a couple WC or near WC midfielders and another CF to have a MONSTER club for the next season or 2, and they are also the leaders for Skriniar IF he doesn't renew

Pau Torres? (another left footer)

I don't rate him that much, he lacks pace, and makes errors too often in terms of positioning, plus he doesn't like overly physically play (hello EPL), and in that he is typical La Liga CB

No I think your point is right. There just isn't a plethora of available superstar CBs atm. Fofana ( especially for his price) and KK were stupid buys but we needed to fill squad space after Rudiger and Christensen. We desperately need colwill to step up or we will be overpaying for 2 more CBs with maybe some potential but definitely not the elite tier than Gvardiol falls into.

[Hashishi 148]

Maybe an unpopular opinion: We should have signed Casemiro as a stop gap DM to help us transition into 433 this year. He would have chosen us over Manure for CL. 

[Thor 2,819]

You guys really need to chill on calling Fofana a bust. 

Life isn't just black and white - guy came here and unfortunately suffered an injury. Plenty of guys in sports that suffered terrible injuries early on who went on to be men of steel and never got injured throughout their career after early setbacks.

He is clearly very talented too. 

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1 minute ago, Thor said:

You guys really need to chill on calling Fofana a bust. 

Life isn't just black and white - guy came here and unfortunately suffered an injury. Plenty of guys in sports that suffered terrible injuries early on who went on to be men of steel and never got injured throughout their career after early setbacks.

He is clearly very talented too. 

before his injury here, but post bad Leicester injury, he clearly had lost a step

before we bought him he fell far off my lists due to that bad injury

before the Leicester injury he was very high on my lists, but I want to see two years post bad injury before I recco someone again

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1 hour ago, Hashishi said:

Maybe an unpopular opinion: We should have signed Casemiro as a stop gap DM to help us transition into 433 this year. He would have chosen us over Manure for CL. 

hell no!

£70m for a 31yo (in two months) DMF?

PASS

 

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19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

before his injury here, but post bad Leicester injury, he clearly had lost a step

before we bought him he fell far off my lists due to that bad injury

before the Leicester injury he was very high on my lists, but I want to see two years post bad injury before I recco someone again

He is 21 building his confidence back up. It isn't going to happen overnight, and not like he is 100 games in here showing the same thing. He was getting better and better in his performances before his latest setback. 

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12 minutes ago, Thor said:

He is 21 building his confidence back up. It isn't going to happen overnight, and not like he is 100 games in here showing the same thing. He was getting better and better in his performances before his latest setback. 

Time will tell but atm I remain unconvinced.

I think it has a substantial chance to go down as a truly shit buy. I truly hope not.

I have a solid track record here predicting systemic risk, both short term and on longer range event horizons on a multivariate number of stress points, both player-related and also bigger picture, whole club structures.

I warned back during the Skripal poisoning affair that it was time for Roman to sell the club, as he was likely to be banned by the Home Office from obtaining a visa renewal (and that would cock up the new stadium) and was at true risk, down the road, of having the club seized, due to his close ties to Putin.

I was laughed at then by some. We all know how that ended. 😒

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Vivell has been announced, expecting him to be injured in the coming days

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hell no to Alexis Vega

he is utter dregs

averages 5 goals per season in totally shit Liga MX

 

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no to Weston McKennie

not good enough