Vesper 31,108 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, cosmicway said: The sh*t has hit the fan. We spend big or Boehly ends up with a team struggling to avoid relegation. I recall with dread the early seventies. We had economic problems as well then but from close to being the top side of England and Europe we slowly dropped to the second division. players I rate (and how many do we actually have legit shots at and will actually end up buying? I am not hopeful atm) Jude Bellingham Rafael Leão Declan Rice (IF £65-70m then sure) Christopher Nkunku Victor Osimhen Lautaro Martínez Nicolò Barella Bruno Guimarães Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Josko Gvardiol Federico Chiesa (IF recovered fully) Ousmane Dembélé Milan Škriniar João Félix Moussa Diaby Frenkie de Jong Ivan Toney Jan Oblak Moisés Caicedo Enzo Fernández Karim Adeyemi Amadou Onana Evan Ndicka Youssoufa Moukoko Mohamed Simakan Guido Rodríguez Denzel Dumfries Roméo Lavia Kouadio Koné Jeremie Frimpong Khéphren Thuram Gonçalo Ramos Gonçalo Inácio Evanilson Endrick Benjamin Sesko Luka Sucic Vanderson Armel Bella-Kotchap Arsen Zakharyan Joakim Mæhle Giorgi Mamardashvili (GK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: players I rate (and how many do we actually have legit shots at and will actually end up buying? I am not hopeful atm) Jude Bellingham Rafael Leão Declan Rice (IF £65-70m then sure) Christopher Nkunku Victor Osimhen Lautaro Martínez Nicolò Barella Bruno Guimarães Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Josko Gvardiol Federico Chiesa (IF recovered fully) Ousmane Dembélé Milan Škriniar João Félix Moussa Diaby Frenkie de Jong Ivan Toney Jan Oblak Moisés Caicedo Enzo Fernández Karim Adeyemi Amadou Onana Evan Ndicka Youssoufa Moukoko Mohamed Simakan Guido Rodríguez Denzel Dumfries Roméo Lavia Kouadio Koné Jeremie Frimpong Khéphren Thuram Gonçalo Ramos Gonçalo Inácio Evanilson Endrick Benjamin Sesko Luka Sucic Vanderson Armel Bella-Kotchap Arsen Zakharyan Joakim Mæhle Giorgi Mamardashvili (GK) Mbappe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, cosmicway said: Mbappe. we have zero shot at getting him it is fantasyland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, Vesper said: we have zero shot at getting him it is fantasyland No it's not. If the PSG ship goes under again they will collapse. Mbappe, Neymar and even Messi will be available to the highest bidders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, cosmicway said: No it's not. If the PSG ship goes under again they will collapse. Mbappe, Neymar and even Messi will be available to the highest bidders. Mbappe is not coming here we will not meet his salary demands and we likely will not have CL, plus we have a shit stadium, a tiny pitch not suited to his game also why would PSG collapse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Mbappe is not coming here we will not meet his salary demands and we likely will not have CL, plus we have a shit stadium, a tiny pitch not suited to his game also why would PSG collapse? I don't get this. Suppose Mbappe was one from our 2018 youth squad but still the same Mbappe in 2022. He d' still have the same salary demands. Nothing works without big money. PSG if not win the CL this year will have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,979 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 You've still not answered "why would PSG collapse"????? And if Mbappe is going anywhere it's to Real, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, cosmicway said: I don't get this. Suppose Mbappe was one from our 2018 youth squad but still the same Mbappe in 2022. He d' still have the same salary demands. Nothing works without big money. PSG if not win the CL this year will have problems. We will not get mbappe, am going to try out this as nice as I can, we are not a top tier team, yes we won the league a few times and the CL but if any of you think we can compete with , Barca RM PSG BM juve MUFC, then you kidding yourself! Man city will beat us to players and in the next few years Newcastle will also beat us to players. Edited November 29, 2022 by YorkshireBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: juve you can remove them from the list they might not even exist as a topflight club soon (possible forced relegation to lower tiers) sledgehammers of justice on the march for the criminals, their whole board and Agnelli just resigned a few hours back Norfolkblue1961 and bigbluewillie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Vesper said: you can remove them from the list they might not even exist as a topflight club soon (possible forced relegation to lower tiers) sledgehammers of justice on the march for the criminals, their whole board and Agnelli just resigned a few hours back But in general over the years juve was still a bigger pull than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: But in general over the years juve was still a bigger pull than us. well, they are no more so happy to see them implode I have been an Agnelli clan hater for over half my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Vesper said: you can remove them from the list they might not even exist as a topflight club soon (possible forced relegation to lower tiers) sledgehammers of justice on the march for the criminals, their whole board and Agnelli just resigned a few hours back It'll be interesting to see how Chiesa does the second half of the season as if Juventus have the book thrown at them (relegation, etc) then their most valuable assets will be on the market. Would have to see that blinding pace is still there for Chiesa first as I'd worry about him if he's lost a yard or two. Vlahovic and Miretti could be interesting options too. Fernando and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: But in general over the years juve was still a bigger pull than us. Were they really? Since the Calciopoli there was only maybe a few year period (around 2015-2019) when Juve's pull was at it's highest point and at that time they were definitely ahead of us. Anytime between 2006-2014 absolutely no chance the majority of players would have chosen Juve ahead of Chelsea and lately their aura of success has been on a steady decline once again, way before all this dodgy financial stuff that's been doing the rounds in the last couple of months. They had a really good period of success when the rest of the Serie A were at their lowest which, for a while at least, increased their pulling power but I definitely wouldn't put them in the same category as RM, Barca and Bayern. For all their domestic success Juve haven't even won the UCL in almost 30 years ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: We will not get mbappe, am going to try out this as nice as I can, we are not a top tier team, yes we won the league a few times and the CL but if any of you think we can compete with , Barca RM PSG BM juve MUFC, then you kidding yourself! Man city will beat us to players and in the next few years Newcastle will also beat us to players. We've beaten United to many players in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDA 10,241 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: This that the guy who played against us in the CL alongside Tonali?? If so, I thought he was poor, really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,954 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Time to move a player to current squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,726 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 We need mid, get Caicedo and then who knows what else we can get. Jude would be amazing, but I'm not sure we got a chance. Going to have to settle for Rice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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