Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just now, killer1257 said: Is Digne good enough? Or only a cheaper version of Chilwell? How much does he cost? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk I rate him a lot, he is technical, decent size, solid defensively, he has a motor, although I doubt Everton will do a straight swap but it is worth a try Strike, ZAPHOD2319 and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I bet nathan ake could be a good defensive left back, vertongen is available for free but he is probably old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Dean Henderson is overrated zero chance I would drop £50m on him Atomiswave and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, lucio said: I bet nathan ake could be a good defensive left back, vertongen is available for free but he is probably old I thought that too, then he played at LB and I quickly disabused myself of that notion he was horrid away at Leicester at LB, Ricardo Pereira and Maddison roasted him, they lost 3 - 1 then he played LB versus Watford at home, he was roasted over and over by Sarr, et al and they lost nil 3 killer1257 and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Vesper said: I thought that too, then he played at LB and I quickly disabused myself of that notion he was horrid away at Leicester at LB, Ricardo Pereira and Maddison roasted him, they lost 3 - 1 then he played LB versus Watford at home, he was roasted over and over by Sarr, et al and they lost nil 3 Due to lack or scarcity of world class central defenders this summer....I would suggest we go for Nikola Milemkovic....he has all the attributes to become the next Vidic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alabama said: Due to lack or scarcity of world class central defenders this summer....I would suggest we go for Nikola Milemkovic....he has all the attributes to become the next Vidic... I listed him a few times I really wonder why Manure went off the boil on him, they were allllll in a year or two ago, he was close to their number one CB target he is a huge lad 1.95m killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I listed him a few times I really wonder why Manure went off the boil on him, they were allllll in a year or two ago, he was close to their number one CB target he is a huge lad 1.95mI have never watched Milenkovic. He only costs 35 mio. and he seems good. He could be our next Ivanovic. Serbians are physical monsters and they seem to produce good defenders like Vidic, Iva or Subotic (pre injury Subo was a beast) Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Analysing Milan target Nikola Milenkovic https://sempremilan.com/analysing-milan-target-nikola-milenkovic-the-perfect-answer-for-rangnicks-style It was not any surprise for Serie A fans when the coach of Manchester United came to personally scout Nikola Milenkovic in 2018 for a league match. Drawing comparisons to compatriot and defensive legend Nemanja Vidic, Milenkovic was a potential target, although later they would choose to sign Harry Maguire, paying a world-record fee for a defender. However, Milan have been extensively linked with a move for the Serbia international as the club looks for Alessio Romagnoli’s long-term partner, and a swap involving Lucas Paqueta has been mentioned. Continuing the trend of scouting our defensive targets this summer, Rohit Rajeev takes a look at what Milenkovic could bring. While Nikola Milenkovic prefers playing centre-back he is versatile and can also be used as a right-back, albeit with varying degrees of success so far. Under Montella he was deployed on the right of three-man defence. His unnatural pace has made him flexible to slot into full back position during a crisis. Defensive ability What makes Milenkovic special as a defender is his unique combination of intelligence, reading of the game and physical ability. It is no surprise to say that being 6ft5 makes him aerially dominant and he wins a lot of duels in that area. Milenkovic main strength is his ability to come out with the ball in 1v1 situations. With his height and long legs, the 22-year-old is able to reach out quite a distance to tackle and dispossess his opponent. Even with fancy dribbling techniques or skills it would take quite an effort to beat Milenkovic. An example of his technique can be seen in the image below. Shaqiri is approaching Milenkovic at pace with the ball, but the centre-back positions himself at a distance not too far away but not too close to the attacker. Eventually, Shaqiri loses the ball. Another aspect that Milenkovic has embedded in himself is his aggressive pressing. In the below example, he presses Papu Gomez very high to the extent that he is forced to retreat into Atalanta’s defensive third. In the image below, Gomez tries to turn and loses possession to Milenkovic which is turned to a counter attack by Fiorentina, who eventually score. Attacking play Milenkovic possess good ball playing ability. Not only does he not panic when pressed, he has the ability to play or pass his way out of tight situations which makes him a very desirable player for any team that builds out form the back. Milenkovic also knows how to spot players making runs and picks out passed to advance play to the forwards. In this image below, you can see how Player 1 (Milenkovic) has the safe option of passing to Player 2 or 3 but chooses to advance play to 4 and split the lines with his pass. Weakness Milenkovic – despite 3 seasons in Italy – is still an unpolished diamond. His pass success rate is quite low at 76.8% despite a lot of his passes being towards the keeper. The player needs to expand his range by distributing the play better. And like any other young players, he is still inconsistent and lacks exposure which can only grow with time and experience. A good fit for Milan? Milenkovic could slot into the system as a right-sided centre-back who advances forward, pressing very high as Rangnick likes his teams to do. With Italian sides generally preferring to sit back and contain, Milenkovic’s ability on the ball could come in useful especially with Rangnick’s 10 second rule. His pace along with his intelligent positioning could be tailor made for Rangnick to win the ball quickly from the opponent or even to prevent counter attacks, meaning he is – on paper – a good fit. killer1257 and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Sounds good, buy him Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Analysing Milan target Nikola Milenkovic https://sempremilan.com/analysing-milan-target-nikola-milenkovic-the-perfect-answer-for-rangnicks-style It was not any surprise for Serie A fans when the coach of Manchester United came to personally scout Nikola Milenkovic in 2018 for a league match. Drawing comparisons to compatriot and defensive legend Nemanja Vidic, Milenkovic was a potential target, although later they would choose to sign Harry Maguire, paying a world-record fee for a defender. However, Milan have been extensively linked with a move for the Serbia international as the club looks for Alessio Romagnoli’s long-term partner, and a swap involving Lucas Paqueta has been mentioned. Continuing the trend of scouting our defensive targets this summer, Rohit Rajeev takes a look at what Milenkovic could bring. While Nikola Milenkovic prefers playing centre-back he is versatile and can also be used as a right-back, albeit with varying degrees of success so far. Under Montella he was deployed on the right of three-man defence. His unnatural pace has made him flexible to slot into full back position during a crisis. Defensive ability What makes Milenkovic special as a defender is his unique combination of intelligence, reading of the game and physical ability. It is no surprise to say that being 6ft5 makes him aerially dominant and he wins a lot of duels in that area. Milenkovic main strength is his ability to come out with the ball in 1v1 situations. With his height and long legs, the 22-year-old is able to reach out quite a distance to tackle and dispossess his opponent. Even with fancy dribbling techniques or skills it would take quite an effort to beat Milenkovic. An example of his technique can be seen in the image below. Shaqiri is approaching Milenkovic at pace with the ball, but the centre-back positions himself at a distance not too far away but not too close to the attacker. Eventually, Shaqiri loses the ball. Another aspect that Milenkovic has embedded in himself is his aggressive pressing. In the below example, he presses Papu Gomez very high to the extent that he is forced to retreat into Atalanta’s defensive third. In the image below, Gomez tries to turn and loses possession to Milenkovic which is turned to a counter attack by Fiorentina, who eventually score. Attacking play Milenkovic possess good ball playing ability. Not only does he not panic when pressed, he has the ability to play or pass his way out of tight situations which makes him a very desirable player for any team that builds out form the back. Milenkovic also knows how to spot players making runs and picks out passed to advance play to the forwards. In this image below, you can see how Player 1 (Milenkovic) has the safe option of passing to Player 2 or 3 but chooses to advance play to 4 and split the lines with his pass. Weakness Milenkovic – despite 3 seasons in Italy – is still an unpolished diamond. His pass success rate is quite low at 76.8% despite a lot of his passes being towards the keeper. The player needs to expand his range by distributing the play better. And like any other young players, he is still inconsistent and lacks exposure which can only grow with time and experience. A good fit for Milan? Milenkovic could slot into the system as a right-sided centre-back who advances forward, pressing very high as Rangnick likes his teams to do. With Italian sides generally preferring to sit back and contain, Milenkovic’s ability on the ball could come in useful especially with Rangnick’s 10 second rule. His pace along with his intelligent positioning could be tailor made for Rangnick to win the ball quickly from the opponent or even to prevent counter attacks, meaning he is – on paper – a good fit. Back in my prime years 2010-2015, I was also an amazing scout lol. I knew all the big talents, but then I went to university and it all stopped...But I still can spot a talent when I see it. Thanks for the article Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Vesper and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AOIRO said: Dean Henderson and Declan Rice I want them . But , Onana and Upamecano are good enough . Dean Henderson is a pass especially at £50m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lucio 5,418 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Stefan savic might be for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 [/url] Why are we never linked with such players, but want Declan Rice as a CB instead lol Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 God I hate this Tapatalk app sometimesGesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Supermonkey92 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, lucio said: Stefan savic might be for sale he is 30yo in 6 months, unless he comes on a free, pass and Contract expires: 30.06.2022 so nope killer1257 and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Last time we bought CB was Rudiger three years ago. Cannot believe Frank dont think we need new one(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, killer1257 said: Why are we never linked with such players, but want Declan Rice as a CB instead lol Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Should sign both, forge another Serbian english defensive partnership Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Sounds good, buy himTook the works out of my mouth lol. Get him Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Borussia Dortmund agree deal to sign Birmingham's Jude Bellingham in blow for Manchester United Midfielder believes he will make quicker progress in the Bundesliga and joins Erling Haaland in preferring Westfalenstadion to Old Trafford https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/02/borussia-dortmund-agree-deal-sign-jude-bellingham-blow-manchester/ Borussia Dortmund have agreed a deal in principle to sign the highly rated England Under-17 midfielder, Jude Bellingham, from Birmingham City. Manchester United had been eager to sign Bellingham and gave the 17-year-old a tour of the club’s training complex in March but the player and his father, Mark, believe his development will be best served by a move to Germany. Bellingham becomes the second player in seven months to pick Dortmund over United after Erling Haaland snubbed a move to Old Trafford in January in order to join the German giants for £20 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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