Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 ask yourself this if Boubakary Soumare is the (quote from a typical bullshit Brit headline) then why the fuck are Lille so bloody eager to sell him???? £50m quid is outrageous we are fucking fools if we cough up £100m or so for him and Isco massive part of our budget shot to hell on pure dice rolls and the nightmare of LB and backup CF left unfixed smdh we seem to never learn our lesson let us all truly hope that all this is pure 100% tabloid bollocks (odds are high it is) DDA and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Victor Moses, holy shit. I completely forgot he was still on our books. Feels like an age since he was a key cog in the Chelsea machine. Must be so weird and kinda sad for him to go from a nailed on starter in a title winning side to irrelevent that quickly. 😕 DDA and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 lol our new backup CF Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: ask yourself this if Boubakary Soumare is the (quote from a typical bullshit Brit headline) then why the fuck are Lille so bloody eager to sell him???? £50m quid is outrageous we are fucking fools if we cough up £100m or so for him and Isco massive part of our budget shot to hell on pure dice rolls and the nightmare of LB and backup CF left unfixed smdh we seem to never learn our lesson let us all truly hope that all this is pure 100% tabloid bollocks (odds are high it is) I'd buy Isco and sell Barkley as someone above said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just wish i could become Marina for the rest of the month...more than half window gone and we are still bargaining here and there with no effin clear targets set If i were her I would just get sancho even if it costs us 130m...sancho gets 6 months of transition and takes over from willian in the summer Pedro is good as backup but can leave in the summer Somehow try and sell barkley to west ham and give billy gilmour more mins Finalize giroud sale and keep batsman as backup...no point taking dembele for a short term fix and then be stuck with the guy like anelka...sell batshuayi in summer and get a better player like werner (dreams) or someone else and also a backup like Chalov Sell alonso now and play azpi there for the rest of the season..buy chilwell or somone good in the summer...sell emerson in summer and promote maatsen Cb we can wait till summer when we sell cristansen and zouma and need to buy 1 dope starter like skriniar and 1 young one like issa diop The most contentous one would be to sell kante in the summer and starts negotiations with real right now... buy soumare now to bleed him into the team Lastly sell deadwood like moses bakayoko drinkwater etc All this just involves planning and not much of net spend Our team post summer would be dope like below Gk - Kepa (Cabellero) Rb - Reece James (lamptey) Lb - chilwell (Maathsen) Cb 1 - Skriniar (Tomori) Cb 2 - Rudiger (Diop) Cm 1 - RLC (Soumare) Cm2 - Jorginho (Kovacic) Am - Mount (Billy gilmour/Gallagher/werner) Lw/Ss - Werner (Cho) Rw - Sancho/Pulisic (Sancho /Pulisic) St - Tammy/Werner (Chalov) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Nicco said: I'd buy Isco and sell Barkley as someone above said. I would go for that too (if Isco is a fair price as RM have a way of trying to raise the price once they start negotiations), but Lampard has already basically said Barkley is not leaving this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Unless this is pure bullshit, Isco will not decide what he is going to do until after Euro 2020. https://eldesmarque.com/madrid/real-madrid/noticias/182278-isco-tiene-hasta-casa-mirada-adios-real-madrid-pacto-en-la-sombra-ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 hours ago, shrenshah said: Just wish i could become Marina for the rest of the month...more than half window gone and we are still bargaining here and there with no effin clear targets set If i were her I would just get sancho even if it costs us 130m...sancho gets 6 months of transition and takes over from willian in the summer Pedro is good as backup but can leave in the summer Somehow try and sell barkley to west ham and give billy gilmour more mins Finalize giroud sale and keep batsman as backup...no point taking dembele for a short term fix and then be stuck with the guy like anelka...sell batshuayi in summer and get a better player like werner (dreams) or someone else and also a backup like Chalov Sell alonso now and play azpi there for the rest of the season..buy chilwell or somone good in the summer...sell emerson in summer and promote maatsen Cb we can wait till summer when we sell cristansen and zouma and need to buy 1 dope starter like skriniar and 1 young one like issa diop The most contentous one would be to sell kante in the summer and starts negotiations with real right now... buy soumare now to bleed him into the team Lastly sell deadwood like moses bakayoko drinkwater etc All this just involves planning and not much of net spend Our team post summer would be dope like below Gk - Kepa (Cabellero) Rb - Reece James (lamptey) Lb - chilwell (Maathsen) Cb 1 - Skriniar (Tomori) Cb 2 - Rudiger (Diop) Cm 1 - RLC (Soumare) Cm2 - Jorginho (Kovacic) Am - Mount (Billy gilmour/Gallagher/werner) Lw/Ss - Werner (Cho) Rw - Sancho/Pulisic (Sancho /Pulisic) St - Tammy/Werner (Chalov) A number of things. We are not going to spend £140m on 2 CB's (which is what Diop and Skriniar would cost) We are not going to sell Azpi, AC or Zouma from what I have seen from Lamps Lamptey (who may walk on a free, the Sun lied and said he had renewed) and Maatsen are midgets and are not ready for prime time at all as serious options to have lots of minutes. We cannot roll with a 5 foot 3 and 5-5 pair of fullbacks, especially as we only have a couple other taller players (Zouma, Tammy, Rudiger and when healthy (big if) RLC. Alonso is gone if we are talking about Maatsen as a LB. If Leicester will not budge from their £80m figure on Chilwell, we are crazy to pay that. I have large doubts we will sell either Alonso or Emerson this window, and possibly in the summer if we swing and miss on Chilwell. I think this is madness myself as we could sell both Emerson and Alonso NOW and buy Gosens (Emerson is perfect swap material, as same age and he is Italian) plus either Telles or Grimaldo (due to release clauses), thus vastly upgrading us at LB. Makes too much sense, so it won't happen. Chalov will not come here to be a 3rd string CF. Soumare, if we are looking at him as a DMF is weak. See my post on his stats, where he is the 2nd lowest MF in all of Ligue 1 in terms of aggressiveness in ball turnover. I absolutely agree in selling Kante. Time to cash in as he is utterly wasted here in Lampard's system. I can see this issue becoming a nasty brawl this summer, but he turns 30 next season and his value will plummet. He is, as I always say starting a couple months ago, now a square peg in a round hole here. If we miss out on CL again, it is vital to get his full £100m plus sales revenue to help balance the FFP books. Gilmour is not a creative AMF. Willy is 39yo next season, time for a new backup keeper IMHO (probably won't happen though) We are setting ourselves up for a potential nightmare in the summer IMHO. All our eggs are in the Sancho, Werner, and Chilwell baskets. None of those are sure things at all (and Chilwell at £80m is just foolish when we can have a far better set of TWO LB's for the same net price or less). We also may well have Willian walk on a free, which not only is a £65m loss from the 2018 Barca offer, but then forces us to buy TWO wingers, plus all the rest of the gaping holes. If we have to buy two wingers, plus we drop £50-60m (Lyon will rape us if they see we missed on Werner as they know we and other clubs are desperate for Dembele), or even higher on a CF (if we miss out in Werner) plus LB for £80m PLUS a DMF, then it is delusional to think we can afford to NOT sell Kante. Add if up (and this is with NO CB, CMF, GK, or RB buys at all.) LB Chillwell £80m (minus one of the two we now have, who go down in value each window, especially the soon to be 30 Alonso) DMF (Soumare?) £50m AMF (Isco?) £50m Sancho £120m Winger number 2 (Willian's replacement) £50m or more (if Zaha it will be more, as in £80m or so) CF Demebele £50m (if we miss out on Werner, if Werner £25m) 3rd CF Josh Maja £15m Total gross spend £390m on low end to £445m on the high Good luck balancing the books on that without selling Kante!!! Especially with the truly MASSIVE (over £300m) revenue losses we are talking from the inept board cocking up hundreds of millions in non timely sales and horrid contractual management and shit buys and rotten renewals on crazy salaries just since 2017. shrenshah and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Lyon have agreed 20m for a striker Ekambi. Maybe dembele is moving Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Marvin123 said: Lyon have agreed 20m for a striker Ekambi. Maybe dembele is moving https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/lyon-reach-deal-with-villarreal-for-karl-toko-ekambi/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Marvin123 said: Lyon have agreed 20m for a striker Ekambi. Maybe dembele is moving Let's hope so. I prefer Werner (and obviously Lautaro, but he will cost £100m or so thus is out of our budget) but not at all sure we can grab Timo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Frank Lampard demands Chelsea pull out all the stops to keep Willian https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/frank-lampard-chelsea-willian-transfer-news-a4337036.html sigh his wage demands are bonkers too we will dump another £20m or so in for two years and he will be worthless at the end of his extension (when he is turning 34) Atomiswave and shrenshah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 FRANK LAMPARD ‘KEEPING AN EYE’ ON RYAN BERTRAND https://readsouthampton.com/2020/01/17/frank-lampard-keeping-an-eye-on-ryan-bertrand/ Hell no! I draw the line at this. Pretty sure this is 100% bollocks. Tomo and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Pizy said: Victor Moses, holy shit. I completely forgot he was still on our books. Feels like an age since he was a key cog in the Chelsea machine. Must be so weird and kinda sad for him to go from a nailed on starter in a title winning side to irrelevent that quickly. 😕 I think deep down he knew it would happen. As soon as reverted back to 4atb his purpose was served. He got an unexpected second shot at Chelsea due to a change of system, he's probably smiling because it happened instead of being sad it's over. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Vesper said: FRANK LAMPARD ‘KEEPING AN EYE’ ON RYAN BERTRAND https://readsouthampton.com/2020/01/17/frank-lampard-keeping-an-eye-on-ryan-bertrand/ Hell no! I draw the line at this. Pretty sure this is 100% bollocks. Wouldn't mind if it means we're selling both Alonso and Emerson and need a new squad player but as a week by week starter he was never good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 What's the noise around the Isco rumor? Seems to be picking up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tomo said: Wouldn't mind if it means we're selling both Alonso and Emerson and need a new squad player but as a week by week starter he was never good enough. He is 31yo in the summer and is shit as a backup option. We are not Bournemouth or Burnley or some Championship side, which is his level now or very soon will be. If this is now the level of our ambition the bloody club needs to be sold ASAP. #losingmymind Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: What's the noise around the Isco rumor? Seems to be picking up again. He is waiting until after Euro 2020 to decide what he will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Lampard indicates there will be no news soon on any transfers although the club keeps working on the possibility. He pours cold water on the idea of a move away for Ross Barkley and adds that Willian is going nowhere. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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