Chelsea Transfers

[Atomiswave 6,117]

12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I do not like it either, but I am not the owner, lolol

my little Blue heart sunk when Roman pulled the plug on the new stadium, there is almost no way to understate the gut shot that was for our next 8 to 10 years. We will lose out on 100's of millions in revenue over a ten year span and it hurts us with recruitment of the BIG ballers

in a couple years both Barca and Real are going to have INSANE renovations (I have posted this before with pics, they will be instantly the best two football stadiums on the planet)

Spuds has the best football stadium in the UK atm

Shitty has (as a total package) a top 5 in world physical plant

Manure will soon (next 4 or 5 years max) completely upgrade OT

Atleti have an insane new stadium

Juve has a world class stadium and faculties, so does Bayern

hell, even Napoli is getting a new stadium finally

PSG is also going to do a complete rehab massive expansion and they are building a crazy new training complex 

Liverpool just dropped a tonne on renovating Anfield and is soon upgrading the rest (plus, it is Anfield, lol, even though I HATE them, it is one of those fucking 'temples of football')

Everton will have a brand new state of the art stadium

Arse is meh (but still has far more lux boxes and revenue capability than SB) and they will soon do some major renovations

both Inter and AC Milan are getting new, separate stadiums

fucking Valencia is finally going to finish (it has been on hold for 10 years) their new stadium

Dortmund (even though not new) has a monster stadium (I went to game there versus Schalke with my father (he had a business trip to seal an M&A for his bank) 15 years ago (spring 2004) when I was 11, and it was one of the loudest stadiums I have ever been it, it is MADNESS, and they also are going to renovate)

Even Roma is finally getting a new stadium

we are the only top 20 club who is stuck (or soon will be) in a small, old, non renovated stadium

its really bad news on a longer term event horizon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very valid points my friend.....as much as I love SB we really need an upgrade to even follow suit with the others. RA either has to sell or put up the money to help out with the costs. It also complicates Things when a new buyer knows on top of paying 3B he has to add another 1B for the stadium. 

[Vesper 30,185]

40 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Very valid points my friend.....as much as I love SB we really need an upgrade to even follow suit with the others. RA either has to sell or put up the money to help out with the costs. It also complicates Things when a new buyer knows on top of paying 3B he has to add another 1B for the stadium. 

That is why Jim Ratcliffe said no to buying us

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are keeping tabs on Zaha and Borussia Dortmund's England winger Jadon Sancho, 19, as they initiate plans to bolster their wing options. (Sunday Express)

[Blues Forever 1,232]

If we missed Sancho, i won't mind Chukwueze, Chiesa, and Ziyech.  

[King Kante 1,643]

Not that we are going to get him but I honestly do not see Mbappe leaving PSG for a while. The reason I say this is because the figures for him are just insane. £300m plus what £600k a week minimum? That is like £450m on a five year contract and even then, you have to think he will ask for more as people like Bale are on £600k. That kind of money buys you half a stadium in London, not going to happen imo. Instead I reckon he will see out his contract at PSG then go on a free to Real or Barca. If he does that, he can pretty much ask for £1.2m a week and everyone is a winner, bar PSG. 

As for our signings going forward, I think we have a lot of room to buy big but we need to be smart as really we're looking at 5 or 6 players to fill the first team and squad out properly. This however, I think can be done. For instance, Werner is a £80m+ player going for £27m. That is a player that we should be moving heaven and earth for as he would solve two issues alone (CF2 and a additional AM). LB, I am starting to come around to the idea of Chilwell as if you ship out Emerson and Alonso his fee would not be that much higher that their fees combined and his wages are unlikely to be much more that theirs combined. That would then leave us with Dave, James, Chilwell but it should be remembered that that both Tomori and Rudiger have experience of playing RB so could act as a CB/RB hybrid like Bane used to. CM I still have high hopes for Ampadu but both Barkley and Baka (who is playing well at Monaco) would likely bring in a good £50m. Drinky is a complete write off at this point. That sort of money could get you most of a SMS. At CB personally I would sacrifice Zouma to bring in £35m+ and then go out for a better CB. CB is really the area where I think we may struggle to find someone that isn't insanely expensive or could be had. AM in a world where Werner signs would not really have to be dealt with until 2021 if Willian extends and as much as I would like a top new GK, I think if we brought in a Foster type character to sit behind Kepa it would help a lot. 

That sort of transfer approach to me isn't out of the realms of possibility. If we end up buy a Sancho however (which I do think is the kind of thing the club would do), then the rest is much tougher as he would eat up a lot of cap space. 

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

On 12/1/2019 at 3:19 AM, Blues Forever said:

If we missed Sancho, i won't mind Chukwueze, Chiesa, and Ziyech.  

Bailey, Sancho now this guy  Plus CHO and Pulisic already here, Mbappe has pic as a kid in a Chelsea kit... 

Are there any top promising wingers who are not Chelsea supporters? 

[1905didierblue 748]

On 11/30/2019 at 0:35 PM, Vesper said:

£350m is insane, although even £250 to £280m is still a shedload (unless you are talking euros)

and yes, his salary will be fucking massive, I think you actually are way UNDERPRICING him salary-wise, by a LOT

Messi makes over £1m PER week in salary!!

We have to take PSG into consideration. I dont think they as a club care about revenue. I mean they have spent 220m euros and 100+ on mbappe in the last 2 windows. Dont see why they would sell for 200m. If psg win a CL, and break the voodoo, why would mbappe even want to go into messi's shadow or RM, when he can be the main alpha guy in PSG and build his own legacy. Given all of it, the 200/250mil just seem like PSG would be willing to sell. Do agree about salary though. Wont be surprised if he is pulling messi-ish salary in a couple of years (when he is due a new contract). Irrespective, I feel even talking about him from a chelsea perspective is moot. Just does not seem possible/improbable under any circumstance.

 

[1905didierblue 748]

On 11/30/2019 at 1:18 PM, Vesper said:

atm

Van Dijk (who is the best CB in the world, atm, even though I HATE the bindippers, he is other worldly atm)

Koulibaly

Raphaël Varane

drop off

José Giménez

pre-injury Aymeric Laporte (IF he fully recovers, he goes into the top 5 again

and, IF/when he settles in, de Ligt

just below them

Lucas Hernández

Skriniar

Marquinhos

Romagnoli (he really is a superb CB, he is just on a SHIT team)

and then potentially Konate in a couple years

after those 9 (and potentially 10)

BIG drop off

Umtiti looks like damaged goods (maybe permanently) or he would have been in there, he

Pretty much agree with the list. And my only point of asking that question (if you followed that particular convo), was to make a point that how many of these can we even realistically hope to get/pull away. None in the top bracket. No chance with VVD and varane. Koulibaly we have tried and infact went upto as much as 60/70m. 

In the lower bracket, marquinhos - no chance. The rest are viable but will cost a fortune. I would hope that rudi comes back and makes a great pairing with zouma. 

[1905didierblue 748]

2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Bailey, Sancho now this guy  Plus CHO and Pulisic already here, Mbappe has pic as a kid in a Chelsea kit... 

Are there any top promising wingers who are not Chelsea supporters? 

Chukwueze looks like a good player. unfortunately another one that just signed a new contract for a 100m euro buy out clause. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

I don't believe this guy unless Kicker and Ruhrnachrichten also running same story. 

[Vesper 30,185]

7 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

Pretty much agree with the list. And my only point of asking that question (if you followed that particular convo), was to make a point that how many of these can we even realistically hope to get/pull away. None in the top bracket. No chance with VVD and varane. Koulibaly we have tried and infact went upto as much as 60/70m. 

In the lower bracket, marquinhos - no chance. The rest are viable but will cost a fortune. I would hope that rudi comes back and makes a great pairing with zouma. 

i think we sell AC and buy Ake, which should be close to a wash money-wise and an upgrade for the EPL games. I do think AC can flourish in La Liga or (as he already has shown) the Bundesliga

I still have a faint glimmer of hope we make a move for Romagnoli, but I doubt it. Konate I fear is going to end up at Arse (Saliba and Konate would be the beast patrol) or Spuds or Manure, and is going to terrorise us for years to come.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Nathan Ake would walk back here IMO, knowing now Frank is in charge.

I do not trust Zouma one bit, he looks so clumsy and inept on the ball.

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

Varane regressed a little bit since World Cup. I think he wants new challenge. Playing for Madrid for almost a decade now. If he doesn't sign new contract by the end of the season I think he'll leave. I know there's a 500m release clause but Real was always kind to players who wanted to leave. 

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14 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Nathan Ake would walk back here IMO, knowing now Frank is in charge.

I do not trust Zouma one bit, he looks so clumsy and inept on the ball.

Why? Zouma has been absolutely brilliant 

You have Tomori who is not imposing physically, you need to pair him with beast like Zouma. 

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23 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

 

In the lower bracket, marquinhos - no chance. The rest are viable but will cost a fortune. I would hope that rudi comes back and makes a great pairing with zouma. 

We dont need cb. We have Zouma, Tomori, Rudiger, AC. I have no problem with all of them. 

What we need is a real DM. 

[Vesper 30,185]

12 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Varane regressed a little bit since World Cup. I think he wants new challenge. Playing for Madrid for almost a decade now. If he doesn't sign new contract by the end of the season I think he'll leave. I know there's a 500m release clause but Real was always kind to players who wanted to leave. 

Mou has wanted since he was a teen

dog help us if they somehow grab him at Spuds (I do so doubt Levy would drop that type of cash, and I doubt Varane would go to spuds anyway)

I see him at PSG or Juve or even Manure (IF they were fixed) long before Spuds though

[1905didierblue 748]

17 minutes ago, communicate said:

We dont need cb. We have Zouma, Tomori, Rudiger, AC. I have no problem with all of them. 

What we need is a real DM. '

Totally agree. I have always maintained we dont need a CB, its when others say that we should go for a "world class" CB, then I question which ones and if it wont be better to spend it in area where we are actually lacking in quality as well as quantity.

As for the last line, I disagree. Just before the international break, we were all saying odes to jorginho. The guy has performed really well and just needs a breather. Kova, Kante, Jorginho, RLC, mount, gilmour/gallagher are good options. And if we do get a DM, it would simply hamper the progress of the youth. Imo, what we need is a LB, ST (back up/competition to tammy), RW. Keep the core intact, build on it by adding strength in depth where needed (ST, wingers, LB) and we should be good.

[NikkiCFC 8,324]

20 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Can Liverpool give him more money then to all other best players they have? I also don't believe this rumour. 

[Tomo 21,751]

On 02/12/2019 at 6:09 AM, NikkiCFC said:

Bailey, Sancho now this guy  Plus CHO and Pulisic already here, Mbappe has pic as a kid in a Chelsea kit... 

Are there any top promising wingers who are not Chelsea supporters? 

It only goes to serve just how massive a club we are in the modern game.

The players coming to prominence now would have seen nothing but Chelsea winning big titles, aslong as we're competitive we will be an absolutely huge pull for this up and coming generation, even more so now we've got with the times regarding style of play.