Mikel John Obi

[Phil Driver 503]

Glen Hoddle another one who has him sussed . Perfect summary . Play forward when you can feed the three ,just like Lampard for the Oscar goal at West Ham .

[Phil Driver 503]

"Too slow and square" " Chelsea's build up is too slow when he plays"

[Phil Driver 503]

P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter.

Nothing from him .

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it

[haranr 485]

Starter.

[lucio 5,418]

P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter.

Nothing from him .

what did lampard do?

[bababoom 4,478]

P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter.

Nothing from him .

So quick to write in the Mikel thread, i hope to see you in the Lampard thread as well because he was just as bad if not worse.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

He wasn't good but he beasted it in the air

[Phil Driver 503]

Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it

Very good summing up ,it was the game for him to take control and protect the back four and break up attacks and quick passing to counter,we got fuck all as usual he could not hide tonight . We need better this was a perfect game for him to really play well and he was a passenger.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it

Have to agree. Played well at West Ham but then throws in a performance like today where he offers nothing going forward and no protection to the back four.

[Clevemayer 764]

Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it

exactly but he isn't the central Midfielder, these are Lamps and Rambo...

not defending him but you should ciriticise him for things that were his faults, not enough interceptions and too slow transition. but if you're alone protecting the back four agenst 3 or 5 opponents then you can't do anything... how can one men defend 3 or five others? you only look like a headless chicken if you try...

again, had a porr game, but the whole team had, ind it wasn't only down to him... Oscar as RW and Lamps as CM are the weaklinks in this game...

[nadavTKL 1,787]

He's just a bad midfielder for this level. I always give him a chance when he does his job for a game or two, but then he shows not just how not special he is, but also so not clever enough to do his job game after game. thinking so slow, a real cowered with the ball and will always prefer the pass backwords but probably rightly so cause he can't pass it forword good enough, and he's so slowww, fast players passes him so easily. My eyes literally burns when seeing him and Lampard on the same pitch together.

[The only place to be 11,313]

exactly but he isn't the central Midfielder, these are Lamps and Rambo...

not defending him but you should ciriticise him for things that were his faults, not enough interceptions and too slow transition. but if you're alone protecting the back four agenst 3 or 5 opponents then you can't do anything... how can one men defend 3 or five others? you only look like a headless chicken if you try...

again, had a porr game, but the whole team had, ind it wasn't only down to him... Oscar as RW and Lamps as CM are the weaklinks in this game...

Or maybe Hoddle was spot on in what he said about him.

[Clevemayer 764]

Or maybe Hoddle was spot on in what he said about him.

You can pick raisins if you hant, two days earlier Bates called him the KEY-Selection for our win against WH http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/287405/analysis ?

Maybe I'm right in telling you that one men cant defend against five and its quite impossible? And you should read my post in what to do in the Bael thread. If you like it or not, Legend or not, Lamps is past it and the team is tired, especially Lampard, because they keep gett'n played and played everey two days. And in a pressing high tempo game HE JUST DOESN'T fit the bill anymore, he is the BIGGEST weak link, not the only one, I also said I woud welcome gündogan for example, but at first lams has to stop gett'n played day in day out... Frank isn't anymore that player in 2004/2005 against Barca where he raped them at the bridge... and it's not a disgrace to accept this... he still is a legend and the clubs greatest player ever...

[Phil Driver 503]

Cant agree he did at West Ham what he did last night ,he hid ,last night was the perfect night for our holding midfielder who alegedly protects the back four and is a superb passer ,Glen Hoddle was dead right and so am I .

At West Ham he had nothing to do and was not in the game (he scored worst of our players on the forum bible whoscored.com at West Ham) a lot of our players were tired last night except the static players like JT,Cahill and Cech who did well,now I dont expect our sitting midfielder to be tired after his easy game at West Ham where player like Ramires, Oscar and Lampard ran their nuts off and clearly suffered for it last night.

He was and is awful ,we need better. I would rather have Glenn Hoddle agreeing with me than forum experts to be honest and that was before the game.

[The only place to be 11,313]

You can pick raisins if you hant, two days earlier Bates called him the KEY-Selection for our win against WH http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/287405/analysis ?

For a moment there I thought you meant Uncle Ken. Who is this 'Bates'?

Maybe I'm right in telling you that one men cant defend against five and its quite impossible? And you should read my post in what to do in the Bael thread. If you like it or not, Legend or not, Lamps is past it and the team is tired, especially Lampard, because they keep gett'n played and played everey two days. And in a pressing high tempo game HE JUST DOESN'T fit the bill anymore, he is the BIGGEST weak link, not the only one, I also said I woud welcome gündogan for example, but at first lams has to stop gett'n played day in day out... Frank isn't anymore that player in 2004/2005 against Barca where he raped them at the bridge... and it's not a disgrace to accept this... he still is a legend and the clubs greatest player ever...

Not sure why you're bringing Lampard into this. He had a bad game but Mikel also had a very poor game, yet he escapes criticism.

[Clevemayer 764]

He is from ghostgoal and sometimes has quite nice statistical posts sometimes. But you don't have to know every Reporter/Poster on the net.

I bring Lamps in because he is one of the main reasons our team had a bad game after few in this thread acte like Mikel was the CM and scored 4 owngoals.

Its not defending Mikel, but telling things from my point of view and that Lamps was our main Problem you don't loose a single word about his shamebolic performances but jump right into the Mikel thread when he had a bad game.

And we all know what you and Phil are demanding from the Manager. I always tell when both have bad games, no problem with that, I'm no fanboy, I'm past this after Drogba left. Also your favourism is clearly to see, and here is another point why I bring up Lamps in a post where somebody moans about our CM that weren't pressing and too slow in transition in the thread about one of our DMs, Lamps is one out of the CM-Pair of yesterday.

- Some Poster criticise Mikel for a part he hadn't to play

- Some Lampsfanboys have clear favourism in regret to Mikel, because if he plays as a consequence Lamps has to stay on the bench mostly

- Some Lampsfanboys don't lose a single word about a shamebolic performance of they're player but even criticise Mikel when he plays a great game

So now three points in the context of this thread in my post why I've brought up Lamps name here, you always talk about Lamps in this thread when you tell us he and ramy should play but its not allowed to bring his name up if its not ok for your taste?

Karma is a bitch....

[The only place to be 11,313]

He is from ghostgoal and sometimes has quite nice statistical posts sometimes. But you don't have to know every Reporter/Poster on the net.

I bring Lamps in because he is one of the main reasons our team had a bad game after few in this thread acte like Mikel was the CM and scored 4 owngoals.

Its not defending Mikel, but telling things from my point of view and that Lamps was our main Problem you don't loose a single word about his shamebolic performances but jump right into the Mikel thread when he had a bad game.

And we all know what you and Phil are demanding from the Manager. I always tell when both have bad games, no problem with that, I'm no fanboy, I'm past this after Drogba left. Also your favourism is clearly to see, and here is another point why I bring up Lamps in a post where somebody moans about our CM that weren't pressing and too slow in transition in the thread about one of our DMs, Lamps is one out of the CM-Pair of yesterday.

- Some Poster criticise Mikel for a part he hadn't to play

- Some Lampsfanboys have clear favourism in regret to Mikel, because if he plays as a consequence Lamps has to stay on the bench mostly

- Some Lampsfanboys don't lose a single word about a shamebolic performance of they're player but even criticise Mikel when he plays a great game

So now three points in the context of this thread in my post why I've brought up Lamps name here, you always talk about Lamps in this thread when you tell us he and ramy should play but its not allowed to bring his name up if its not ok for your taste?

Karma is a bitch....

I think I've said Lamps had a poor game, but unfortunately a lot of people have acted the cunt and gone overboard in their criticism of Lamps (hoping he gets injured, insulting him personally) so my reasoned criticism probably got a little overshadowed.

I even said Mikel had a good game against West Ham, but he's massively inconsistent. Last night everyone played poorly yet the focus was almost entirely on one man. Mikel actually reverted to type and had a very poor game as well, but that gets swept under the carpet. That's despite Hod actually criticising Mikel and agreeing with a lot of the things many Chelsea fans have been saying about Mikel for years.

When the pressure is on Mikel, he crumbles.