Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 He had an easy time ,put him under a bit of pressure and he is gone and all the team have ti sit and help him do his job like in our Champions League victory (even Drogba had to come back and help and last season at West Ham he was murdered by Diame when Lampard did not play ,so who did Mikel make look good at West Ham last season? Lampard or Diame ,The truth is when our top players like Lampard perform like on Saturday they can overcome mediocre/rubbish players like Slobi ,when they are off form and we rely on Slobi ,Diame mureders us and we get hammered by West Ham ,he had it easy on Saturday ,put him under pressure and he will fold ,this protecting the back four is laughable and the slow sideways rubbish passes with (spins ) gets us nowhere fast. He was carried on Saturday by our class players and did nothing.Heh - definitely not a fan then Who you hoping we sign for this role then - come the January window? If we had a Toure type player - we would be unstoppable in midfield.I did think Mikel did ok on Saturday - but like Graham Souness's comments about Adebayour on Sunday "He flatters to deceive, and is a trickster" - at the time I thought, brilliant description of Mikel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I will leave that to Jose but it will not be hard to improve on Mikel and our team will function a whole lot better and be more consistent without the terrible lapses like at West Ham last season when we were murdered in the second half when West Ham put pressure on Mikel, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Imo, Lampard played well because Mikel was pickedI don't mean or want to alienate anyone here in the forum but really, sometimes I just wonder why on earth do people reply to Phil and his posts about Mikel when he always slam him even when he's done well in games. Anything positive will always somehow by hook or by crook be turned into something totally negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Imo, Lampard played well because Mikel was picked What a load of bollox that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't mean or want to alienate anyone here in the forum but really, sometimes I just wonder why on earth do people reply to Phil and his posts about Mikel when he always slam him even when he's done well in games. Anything positive will always somehow by hook or by crook be turned into something totally negative.Oh yeah. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The shirt is his and he ain't letting go of it. He showed in the last 6 or 7 games for us what we need from a player in the pivot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Slow sideways passes are not what we need ,look at our first goal on Saturday a quick straight ball from the pivot by Lampard to Hazard before the defender could close and a flick by Hazard to Oscar and a goal ,it could have been like West Ham last season without that ,he did nothing on Saturday our top players won that. Jose has said he only has his uses in certain games ,so how is the shirt his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Slow sideways passes are not what we need ,look at our first goal on Saturday a quick straight ball from the pivot by Lampard to Hazard before the defender could close and a flick by Hazard to Oscar and a goal ,it could have been like West Ham last season without that ,he did nothing on Saturday our top players won that. Jose has said he only has his uses in certain games ,so how is the shirt his?If he was as bad as you're trying to make him to be why didn't Jose just take him off? Why isn't Jose using Essien instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Slow sideways passes are not what we need ,look at our first goal on Saturday a quick straight ball from the pivot by Lampard to Hazard before the defender could close and a flick by Hazard to Oscar and a goal ,it could have been like West Ham last season without that ,he did nothing on Saturday our top players won that. Jose has said he only has his uses in certain games ,so how is the shirt his?we werent using a pivot and it wasnt his job to do quick straight balls. he held the midfield together so lamps and rammy could go forward and provide for the front 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Glenn Hoddle saying he's never really rated him, plays too square, doesn't get it forward enough.Is Phil Driver Glenn? Phil Driver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Glen Hoddle another one who has him sussed . Perfect summary . Play forward when you can feed the three ,just like Lampard for the Oscar goal at West Ham . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 "Too slow and square" " Chelsea's build up is too slow when he plays" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter. Nothing from him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter. Nothing from him . what did lampard do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 P,A.S.S.E.N.G.E.R Makelele would have loved that game ,a holding mid would have shone there,stop attacks win the ball and counter. Nothing from him . So quick to write in the Mikel thread, i hope to see you in the Lampard thread as well because he was just as bad if not worse. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 He wasn't good but he beasted it in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from it Very good summing up ,it was the game for him to take control and protect the back four and break up attacks and quick passing to counter,we got fuck all as usual he could not hide tonight . We need better this was a perfect game for him to really play well and he was a passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Really poor tonight when he was under pressure by Basel. Led a transition way too slow which fucked up our overall play. Everyone was poor tonight, but you need your central midfielder to stay calm and composed when under pressure and Mikel was far from itHave to agree. Played well at West Ham but then throws in a performance like today where he offers nothing going forward and no protection to the back four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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