OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I know whoscored ratings are not perfect but, we could see by watching how much better luiz is than mikel, especially against smaller teams.David luiz was always among the top three tacklers in those games. Mikel never makes half the amount of tackles luiz does there and he also doesn't give any key passes like luiz does, and he never could contribute goal wise.So I can't see where exactly mikel rates better except passing accuracy to back four.I'll be honest here, 5/10 times Luiz's long passes when hes playing DM work. He could play today and be absolute shit. Hes still very much unproven as a holding MF player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Another game with a win and a clean sheet without 'Marmite Mikel'! Ummm getting a bit of habit this.............Anyway let's see what the future holds for him if Jose returns, I would be stunned if he is first choice but if he is indeed selected, ups his game (which shouldn't be hard!) finally gets some consistency & I'm not talking about a couple of months, I would like to see him perform to a high standard throughout the whole season & take it into the next before I get off his back.Probably all academic anyway as I just can't see Mikel in jose's starting 11, I'm not hoping I'm wrong either but like many decisions for next season - its going to get interesting.......... xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Another game with a win and a clean sheet without 'Marmite Mikel'! Ummm getting a bit of habit this.............Anyway let's see what the future holds for him if Jose returns, I would be stunned if he is first choice but if he is indeed selected, ups his game (which shouldn't be hard!) finally gets some consistency & I'm not talking about a couple of months, I would like to see him perform to a high standard throughout the whole season & take it into the next before I get off his back.Probably all academic anyway as I just can't see Mikel in jose's starting 11, I'm not hoping I'm wrong either but like many decisions for next season - its going to get interesting..........Since Mikel's return from African's Nations Cup, he has started 9 games for us. We have won 3, drawn 2 and lost 4 of them.In the 14 games during this period when Mikel did not start, we have won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1. The one we drew, he played as a sub for 38 minutes and the one we lost, he came on after 60 minutes when we were leading 2-1 and ended up losing 3-2. GodZola and Phil Driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Since Mikel's return from African's Nations Cup, he has started 9 games for us. We have won 3, drawn 2 and lost 4 of them.In the 14 games during this period when Mikel did not start, we have won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1. The one we drew, he played as a sub for 38 minutes and the one we lost, he came on after 60 minutes when we were leading 2-1 and ended up losing 3-2.Didn't know that but thanks for the info - I rest my case! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Since Mikel's return from African's Nations Cup, he has started 9 games for us. We have won 3, drawn 2 and lost 4 of them.In the 14 games during this period when Mikel did not start, we have won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1. The one we drew, he played as a sub for 38 minutes and the one we lost, he came on after 60 minutes when we were leading 2-1 and ended up losing 3-2. Let us not mention that we were losing in the one we drew 2-0 before he came on shall we...Let us blame all of our bad performances on Mikel. After all, us Chelsea fans always need a scapegoat... Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Let us not mention that we were losing in the one we drew 2-0 before he came on shall we...Let us blame all of our bad performances on Mikel. After all, us Chelsea fans always need a scapegoat...Oh the 2 - 2 draw at Old Trafford where Hazard was brilliant after coming on, wasn't just down to Mikel....Not sure where he is blaming Mikel but focusing more on his recent poor individual form 'from the African Nations Cup' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Oh the 2 - 2 draw at Old Trafford where Hazard was brilliant after coming on, wasn't just down to Mikel....Not sure where he is blaming Mikel but focusing more on his recent poor individual form 'from the African Nations Cup'I didn't say it was solely down to Mikel, didn't even mention in that post that it was due to Mikel we drew. What I'm trying to say is that if you're going to state facts don't try to put a negative spin on them.I agree Mikel's been in poor form since the ACON but then again you can't solely push the blame on him for our poor performances - I'm not saying that you are, you've made fair points on Mikel, but certainly a few people on here do so. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I didn't say it was solely down to Mikel, didn't even mention in that post that it was due to Mikel we drew. What I'm trying to say is that if you're going to state facts don't try to put a negative spin on them.I agree Mikel's been in poor form since the ACON but then again you can't solely push the blame on him for our poor performances - I'm not saying that you are, you've made fair points on Mikel, but certainly a few people on here do so.Fair comment, there is no doubt that other players have contributed to those defeats & draws & with respect there are others that can see no wrong in Mikel at times, I very much doubt that even Obi is happy with his form since February & I think this is what he was alluding too. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 when i see Javi Martinez or Gundogan playing, the amount of work and effort they put in the gameand compare it to Mikeli understand why they're in the CL final and we're in the Europa League (or atleast that's one of the many reasons, i'm not saying it's entirely Mikel's fault) Joe Cool and bleed_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Is he still injured?with the amount of games we have had recently it seems strange that he appears to be not part of the team even with the rotation going on ,is it me or does it seem we lose a lot when he is in the team and win when he is not? I thought I heard the waiter say he was fit now ,if Mikel does not get the call to play on Weds he will have been well and truely dropped and he can have no complaints . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 can't say we're missing him xPetrCechx and bleed_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It seems Choulo still believe Mikel is any good. I give up. Kojo, bleed_blue and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It seems Choulo still believe Mikel is any good. I give up.My job is done! For the people asking, yes he is still injured. Could be fit for Wednseday, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 He was fit for Villa according to the waiters press confernce . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo 28 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm surprised their are no Mikel Transfer rumors....Maybe because no one wants him or ......... GodZola, Reddish-Blue and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleed_blue 136 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There has not been a Mikel transfer rumour in the last 7 years and unfortunately there won't be one for the next 4 years as well. Who would want him? Shaan, Reddish-Blue and GodZola 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 no one, he offers nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Mikel can't be a starter unfortunately. He is average defensively and poor offensively. Doesn't really provide much of anything and hasn't really been missed. The Mikel and Lampard combination has been such a terrible idea and yet the club persisted with it for so long. More so than anything it has been responsible for a lot of insipid football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If we manage to sign a new DM/CM, get Romeu back to full match fitness...it'll be interesting to see who plays the DM position next season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If we manage to sign a new DM/CM, get Romeu back to full match fitness...it'll be interesting to see who plays the DM position next season..Competition. The best shall start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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