Hakim Ziyech

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

23 minutes ago, Jase said:

He turns 29 next year though, completely different scenario to the De Bruyne and Salah situations. 

Doesnt mean a different manager could get a lot more out of him though

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Doesnt mean a different manager could get a lot more out of him though

But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

3 minutes ago, Jase said:

But he's at his peak age, he's supposed to be the finished article and yet his performances have been inconsistent. If he goes somewhere else and does well, it could be down to several factors why that could be the case, such as the nature of the league for example as opposed to the manager not getting the best out of him. And not to mention, Ziyech has also gotten more chances than De Bruyne and Salah ever did here. 

Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. 

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes if he went somewhere else and did well it would be a right pisser. Thats the risk really. 

Think we'll survive. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

Think we'll survive. 

Well we did when we shifted Malouda - he reminds me of the same attitude

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Well we did when we shifted Malouda - he reminds me of the same attitude

Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

Nothing to suggest that we won't go buy another attacker if we sell Ziyech. 

Am sure we will - him scoring yesterday only encouraged Tuchel to say hes still in the last chance saloon effectively,  -which is encouraging.

[Fernando 6,585]

Barcelona and Dortmund want him. I think he will do better in Dortmund. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

10 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Barcelona and Dortmund want him. I think he will do better in Dortmund. 

Club will literally laugh at any loan deal come January. 

I will reiterate what Matt Law has stated, any player that's played first team football this season will not be leaving in January. The depth we have will be vital for us if we want to end the season successfully. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

He will have important role this season. Delivering constantly in attack. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

Just watched long 23 minutes highlights. He played part in all 4 goals.

Last 5 games:

assist against Southampton 

disallowed goal, hit the post - overall unlucky game against Newcastle

only goal against Malmo

assist against LC

and today only one assist officially but he took corner for Chalobah goal, great little play before RLC/CHO goal...

CHO and Ziyech undroppable at the moment. Other 5 players fight for one spot.

[Jase 43,479]

11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Last 5 games:

assist against Southampton 

he took corner for Chalobah goal

They don't count. They came from corners. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

1 hour ago, Jase said:

They don't count. They came from corners. 

I never said assists from corners don't count I used corners as argument when we spoke about Mount's creativity. Because obviously set piece assists don't show creativity. Just like they don't show Ziyech's creativity but you have good or bad set piece takers. 

I have been calling for set pieces taker change to happen way before it actually happened (after Arsenal game in round 36) and since then we scored 7 goals after corners (6 this season). With MM that percentage was tremendously lower. 

Also I don't think Ziyech is best taker. He should be 3rd after Chilwell and James. 

 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Hes miserable here. Even when he scores he isnt happy.

[Alabama 1,992]

Can we get a refund from Ajax...