closed Chelsea 1-2 Man Utd

[1905didierblue 748]

Over reaction as always on here.

A so-so performance. United kind of have our number with a wall behind the ball. 

Cho, puli, bats were abysmal. Alonso and Pedro were levels of shit.

Even in an overall poor show, Reece still showed his promise and quality, couple of great crosses and really good defending. 

Considering how thin we are as of this moment, not the worst thing to be out of this tournament. So that's kind of a silver lining. 

Overall a poor evening, but I will take that result. We have bigger things to fight for and acheive.

[LAM09 7,056]

Liverpool in Istanbul was a draw, they won the tiebreaker but the match was a draw.

Who has the trophy?

Please don't be pedantic. It wasn't the bloody Community Shield [emoji849]

[Milan 17,958]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

you kidding? most of our best players have been injured for most of the season, our best 3 are still out. Still, we have played with higher quality than most of our top4 rivals. This was one shit game were our remaining shit players and a corrupted ref have cost us. nothing more. get the head out of the sand and get over it. who gives a damn about carabao cup. Future is bright.

Come on, you can't be serious with someone who in October says 'we overachieved this season'. That was a special line  

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

Our results our bad yes. But we've played well vs Liverpool for a game and a half. Even game tonight and then the first game of the season where we just fell asleep for a half.

The results will come.

Thats what I am talking about. Stupid mistakes from players who are not good enough for this club cost us. But it is also a group mentality thing to grind out results in big games in which we are not at our best. Today Utd had 1.5 genuine chances and scored 2 goals. We had tons of chances and missed all of them and scored a fluke.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Had we lost that game our chances of topping the group were next to nil and our chances of qualifiying would have been in serious jeopardy.

Of course it was a big game.

Yes but like I said, playing a big game and playing a big team are 2 completely different things.

[Superblue 6,372]

Poor tonight but it can happen. Lampard showed his priorities tonight and was prepared to put more younger players in probably knowing that United would go pretty strong.

Disappointing that Kovacic and Jorginho both probably had their worst game of the season in the same night. 

Bar Bats goal, the front 3 were poor in my opinion and although he came on later, its clear how important Mount is in our current setup giving us energy. We actually missed Willian too tonight in the recent form he's been in to give some balance to our attack.

And I really like Reece James and I think he will prove to be an excellent player at the club for a long time, but tonight I think did show that he's not quite as seasoned as the likes of Mount and Abraham are currently and needs time to be slowly bedded in this season. 

[LAM09 7,056]

Yes but like I said, playing a big game and playing a big team are 2 completely different things.

Ajax got to the CL semis - World's elite....

[Tomo 21,751]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

Who has the trophy?

Please don't be pedantic. It wasn't the bloody Community Shield

The game goes on record as a draw. I don't make the rules it is what it is, they won the tie but the game was a draw.

Just now, Jason said:

Yes but like I said, playing a big game and playing a big team are 2 completely different things.

In what sense aren't Ajax not a big game? Not only was qualification (almost) on the line, it was unbeaten semi finalists in Amsterdam fgs.

Also to add, if we're going to take off Ajax as a big game surely the same applies with United?

Take out the name and it's no different to what Burnley have been doing at Stamford Bridge in recent years, ie shithousing results through sitting deep and direct football (nothing wrong with that but it's not the actions of a big team).

[Milan 17,958]

Look at the bright side. A month ago or when OGS was adamant he would play youngster against us today. Having just escaped the relegation zone for now, he is going at full strength. Gets a lucky win and will get destroyed in the later stages of this competition so all of this completely pointless while having to sweat for more cold nights in midweek between key League games.

[LAM09 7,056]

Just now, Tomo said:

The game goes on record as a draw. I don't make the rules it is what it is, they won the tie but the game was a draw.

Common sense. Ask anyone with slightest bit about them whether we "drew" in Istanbul. 

I'm worried about the trophy, not what's written down. 

[1905didierblue 748]

"we are over- acheiving" in October, "we have not won a big game" - we won away to Ajax, man some "fans" are really so fair weather, it's unbelievable.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

In what sense aren't Ajax not a big game? Not only was qualification (almost) on the line, it was unbeaten semi finalists in Amsterdam fgs.

Also to add, if we're going to take off Ajax as a big game surely the same applies with United?

Take out the name and it's no different to what Burnley have been doing at Stamford Bridge in recent years, ie shithousing results through sitting deep and direct football (nothing wrong with that but it's not the actions of a big team).

I don't know what you're going on about here. By big teams, I meant Liverpool, Man United (despite being crap) etc, not Ajax. Ajax may have reached the UCL semi finals last season but they aren't a big side, are they? That game at Amsterdam may have been a big game and we did well to win. But it wasn't against a big team and we still haven't beaten one this season, and that record will likely extend when we face City in November. 

[Tomo 21,751]

Just now, LAM09 said:

Common sense. Ask anyone with slightest bit about them whether we "drew" in Istanbul. 

I'm worried about the trophy, not what's written down. 

The point I'm making is, go on any site that has Frank's W-D-L record as Chelsea manager as that game will be in the middle section.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, milan.cech said:

Look at the bright side. A month ago or when OGS was adamant he would play youngster against us today. Having just escaped the relegation zone for now, he is going at full strength. Gets a lucky win and will get destroyed in the later stages of this competition so all of this completely pointless while having to sweat for more cold nights in midweek between key League games.

I suppose a few years back I'd be really disappointed going out at this stage of the Carabao Cup just because you knew that was it then for the season for any young academy players to get a run out.

Now it's viewed as a potential positive being out to rest them.

[Muzchap 8,966]

21 minutes ago, milan.cech said:

Let United enjoy this epic victory. Let them think OGS is the right man after all. Let them sweat for more cold night in midweek. Let them get knocked out in later stages. Because they are not winning this thing. Let's focus on the important stuff. Get the points on Saturday and I will not complain at all.

Oh, and the ref is a proper cunt.

100%

[Tomo 21,751]

Just now, Jason said:

I don't know what you're going on about here. By big teams, I meant Liverpool, Man United (despite being crap) etc, not Ajax. Ajax may have reached the UCL semi finals last season but they aren't a big side, are they? That game at Amsterdam may have been a big game and we did well to win. But it wasn't against a big team and we still haven't beaten one this season, and that record will likely extend when we face City in November. 

I think Ajax's exploits last season have earned them the tag as a big team and clashes against them being classes as big games, even if they've lost Frenkie.

I would say they're better than all bar two teams we will face domestically all season so yes absolutely it was a big game in my eyes.

[LAM09 7,056]

The point I'm making is, go on any site that has Frank's W-D-L record as Chelsea manager as that game will be in the middle section.

My bad.

 

Could you please point me in the section for this -

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2019/aug/14/liverpool-v-chelsea-uefa-super-cup-2019-live

 

 

Just to please you, 0-3 with TWO DEFEATS AT HOME. You were happy to jump on a comment about me HOPING it won't be an issue throughout the season.

 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I think Ajax's exploits last season have earned them the tag as a big team and clashes against them being classes as big games, even if they've lost Frenkie.

Really? One run to the UCL semi-final out of nowhere and they're suddenly a big team?  Tomo, I know you always look for perspective and all but you're clutching at straws here. 

[Muzchap 8,966]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I think Ajax's exploits last season have earned them the tag as a big team and clashes against them being classes as big games, even if they've lost Frenkie.

I would say they're better than all bar two teams we will face domestically all season so yes absolutely it was a big game in my eyes.

Don't use logic or reason when someone is determined to moan 😂

The future is bright, the future is blue 👍

 

*without Alonso 

[LAM09 7,056]

Really? One run to the UCL semi-final out of nowhere and they're suddenly a big team?  Tomo, I know you always look for perspective and all but you're clutching at straws here. 

Stop moaning...