OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jason said: Ironic that you mentioned Luiz/Christensen played in a system that protected their weaknesses and then tried to compare them with Terry/Carvalho, who both also played in a defensive system. Remember what happened when Terry played under AVB? Cmon Terry was about 32 when he played in that high line under AVB and even then he looked better than Luiz did except that shit show v Arsenal 😂 I mean even Cahill back then was probanly better than Luiz and Christensen (disappointed with how hes continued to struggle after a positive start last season) defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: So you are honestly trying to justify a record 103 goals and a record goal differential (only bested by Pep's City), wasn't a result of attacking football? Why do a team that score many goals always have to be classified as playing "attacking football"? A team can play good football and be ruthless/efficient with their opportunities, which we were back in 2009/10. If you look deeper into the numbers, the 103 goals were inflated because of 4 matches - the 7-2, 7-1, 7-0 and 8-0. If you put that down to regular scores, we would have ended up with the usual goals scored number of a league champion. And for argument's sake, you want to call it attacking football? Fine. But attacking football doesn't mean teams have to play a high line, press the opponent high up the pitch etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tomo said: I actually agree with Jason on that case. We played the same brand of football under Carlo as we did Jose, the difference being Jose would see a game out after it's won to reserve energy whereas Carlo had us maintain the same intensity till the end. I'm shocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,193 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 here are my wishes for the remaining games We win the last 2 EPL games (thus 99% guaranteeing CL) Spuds lose one, win one (this gives us 3rd and then 100% CL) AND it blocks both Manure and Arse from 4th if that happens, the Arse and Manure EPL games, all 4 in total are meaningless, they can both win the last two and still miss out Shitty win their last 2 and cock-block the dippers from the title finally Arse loses to either Valencia (not likely but still a chance) or if not, then they lose us in the final Barca wins CL (or Ajax, but sorta want to see Barca make history and surpass those two monster Pep Barca sides by winning a true consecutive sextuple and beyond) that means 1 Shitty 2 Victimpool 3 Chels (our two games are both tough, but winnable, Leicester away is going to be the toughest game out of the 8 games left for all of the 4 teams battling for 3rd and 4th, BUT Shitty will beat them this weekend, and Wolves will beat Fulham, thus eliminating Leicester from EL contention, so they will have a lot less to play for) 4 Spuds (two tough games as well, Bournemouth away and Everton at home to close out the season) 5 Manure (as they will surely win their last 2 against utter shit teams) 6 Arse (unless they win both, then they are 5th, Burnley away will be a hard slog) 7 Wolves (I hope they qualify for EL, as that means they probably have easier time holding onto players who would maybe go to the other top 5 EPL teams) CL Baca EL Chels Arse and Manure get nothing, other than EL next year those are my complete wishes MAKE IT SO Johnnyeye and Vybz Kartel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, OneMoSalah said: Cmon Terry was about 32 when he played in that high line under AVB and even then he looked better than Luiz did except that shit show v Arsenal 😂 I mean even Cahill back then was probanly better than Luiz and Christensen (disappointed with how hes continued to struggle after a positive start last season) defensively. But Terry never looked the part in a high line, did he? He might have fared better than Luiz but he was always prone to making errors at the back if you put balls in behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tomo said: We haven't been a good defensive team since Mou's first season back bar isolated periods. I'd say we defended well as a team under Conte, especially in the first season. Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Jason said: I'd say we defended well as a team under Conte, especially in the first season. In the 13 match winning run we did but either side i thought we were average (especially on Alonso/ Cahill's side) defensively. 29 goals in 25 games is Brendan esque numbers and we went on our longest run without a clean sheet for 22 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,193 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jason said: I'd say we defended well as a team under Conte, especially in the first season. once we went to a back 3, after that Arse game, yes Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Tomo said: In the 13 match winning run we did but either side i thought we were average (especially on Alonso/ Cahill's side) defensively. 29 goals in 25 games is Brendan esque numbers and we went on our longest run without a clean sheet for 22 years. We did? I don't recall that. Even then though, we still looked capable of defending back then. These days, we look like a bunch of headless chickens in defensive situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: once we went to a back 3, after that Arse game, yes Miss the times when we were actually capable of those back-to-the-wall performances to get a result in the really tough games! Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason said: We did? I don't recall that. Yeah IIRC the clean sheet at Goodison end of April was our first since like early January and i'm sure i read it was our worst run without a shutout since 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,193 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jason said: Miss the times when we were actually capable of those back-to-the-wall performances to get a result in the really tough games! we have 4 games left, all are extreme pressure, and if we sweep them, I will be quite content with the season, given all the bullshit and fuck-ups (plus the EL trophy will be our 30th top flight/Europe trophy in club history) Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,325 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sarri said RLC had crump and asked to be replaced. Will all of you apologize to the guy? BlueSunshine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Sarri said RLC had crump and asked to be replaced. Will all of you apologize to the guy? Has RLC completed a single match yet? He might need another season to fix this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: But Terry never looked the part in a high line, did he? He might have fared better than Luiz but he was always prone to making errors at the back if you put balls in behind him. Nobody in that back 4 under AVB looked comfortable and for good reason they were so exposed, extremely disjointed with huge spaces in behind. Dont even think prime Terry would have looked good in that defence and he could virtually have played with anybody when he was at his best. Luiz was a fucking bomb scare though under AVB. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 what i hate most is that the german media which has been hyping eintracht all year is now actinga s if that was some heroic performance from them and how they fought for a good result. the fuck. 1-1 at home is a shit result and they mus tknow it. would have preferred to shut them all up by taking our chances. but i think the best is to know that we can unlock their defence at will even if they put 11 men behind the ball. we just need to be wary of Rebic when he comes back. Haller is doubtful so i do not think he will be risked, probably a late sub appearance from him as he just had an adbominal tear. but we need to finish the job nice and early. bigbluewillie and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Has RLC completed a single match yet? He might need another season to fix this problem.He completed one semi recently when a couple people got injured. I don't remember the game but I remember thinking that he would have come off if subs weren't forced. Definitely needs to work on being able to play 90 though. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Missed the 2nd half as fell asleep. Don't feel I missed much.. Still least got a away goal. Unfortunately way we looked at the back they can easily get one next week. Arsenal.. Pretty much through. Valencia have to get 3 or 4 goals and probably won't. So much for them having the harder run. Oh well.. All to do Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Was worried about this one to be fair, but I think I've overestimated Frankfurt too much (and my confidence in this Chelsea squad has taken a big downfall this season). They are a mid table German club and we're still a European powerhouse, although we do not have the personnel to show for it. Guess the big club mentality showed for last night and should have easily put this tie to bed. I have no worries about the 2nd leg tho. Loved Ruben's display and Giroud's link up play, but frankly this squad needs MASSIVE upgrade if we are to make the UCL next season. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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