Vesper 30,190 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 14 hours ago, Unionjack said: I love the guy but dont like it when anyone does this specially our own lads If you watch his feet from 10 seconds to 14, you will see he slipped, didn't dive. It was not a foul, but also not a dive. IMHO. People can argue either way. Arsenal need to stop whinging on about that sequence and worry about all those missed sitters, and the fact their back 4 is shambolic steaming pile of shite and Mesut Özil is the laziest star on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Vesper said: If you watch his feet from 10 seconds to 14, you will see he slipped, didn't dive. It was not a foul, but also not a dive. IMHO. People can argue either way. Arsenal need to stop whinging on about that sequence and worry about all those missed sitters, and the fact their back 4 is shambolic steaming pile of shite and Mesut Özil is the laziest star on the planet. Agree with the slip but still put his spin on it to be something else. Case closed Yep! Had allot of time for Ozil once and wondered if we should get him. don't know what happened to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 THE CROWN PRINCE Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 This article will cause some argy bargy I wager..... Opinion: This is the reason why Kovacic’s spell at Chelsea must end next summer https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/opinion-this-is-the-reason-why-kovacics-spell-at-chelsea-must-end-next-summer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Well, one thing is for sure. I can't see Kovačić and Hazard both going to Madrid. If it really comes to Eden leaving for them, our board will be smart enough to include Kovačić permanent buy in the deal. If he comes good for us, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, Vesper said: This article will cause some argy bargy I wager..... Opinion: This is the reason why Kovacic’s spell at Chelsea must end next summer https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/opinion-this-is-the-reason-why-kovacics-spell-at-chelsea-must-end-next-summer/ Sorry but I dont really care who has to be benched., its all about us putting together the best team we can. Ive never seen what others have in RLC but tried and wanted to. But right now IMO Kovacic will be number one and Barkley will do a good job as backup and hopefully it will make him grow and try to fight for his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, El P. said: Well, one thing is for sure. I can't see Kovačić and Hazard both going to Madrid. If it really comes to Eden leaving for them, our board will be smart enough to include Kovačić permanent buy in the deal. If he comes good for us, of course. I dont even understand why Real is so obsessed with a LW (Hazard). They already have 3 world class (or soon to be in 2 cases) players who can play there. Asensio, Isco, and the best overall 18yo player on the planet in Vinícius Júnior. They need a striker badly and a centre back and a backup left back far more. I also would assume they REALLY want SMS to replace Modric. Unionjack, El P., Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: I dont even understand why Real is so obsessed with a LW (Hazard). They already have 3 world class (or soon to be in 2 cases) players who can play there. Asensio, Isco, and the best overall 18yo player on the planet in Vinícius Júnior. They need a striker badly and a centre back and a backup left back far more. I also would assume they REALLY want SMS to replace Modric. Exactly, they need another goal machime but Ive no idea where they would put Eden. but they really want Alonso - and Barca apparently. wonder if they want Varane as much lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Sorry but I dont really care who has to be benched., its all about us putting together the best team we can. Ive never seen what others have in RLC but tried and wanted to. But right now IMO Kovacic will be number one and Barkley will do a good job as backup and hopefully it will make him grow and try to fight for his spot. You are not alone in failing to grasp RLC. I think we all are a bit infatuated with his size and some of his skillset, but he never seems to but it all together. He doesn't play to his physicals strengths, I do believe is my main concern. He should be a battering ram, not a wannabee Pedro, lol. He is one of the truly puzzling players in the EPL. We have 3 more in that league as well, Morata, Emerson and Barkley. I cannot wrap my head around any of the 4 fully. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Exactly, they need another goal machime but Ive no idea where they would put Eden. but they really want Alonso - and Barca apparently. wonder if they want Varane as much lol I always assumed that If any team could do my 2014 onward dream of putting Icardi and Dybala in same forward grouping, it would be Real (or Juve). If they did that and got a CB to replace Ramos soon (Marquinhos I would assume is their top target), plus SMS to slide in for Modric, watch out world. They do NOT need Hazard for shit in that scenario. Vinícius Júnior looks to be a monster in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Vesper said: This article will cause some argy bargy I wager..... Opinion: This is the reason why Kovacic’s spell at Chelsea must end next summer https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/opinion-this-is-the-reason-why-kovacics-spell-at-chelsea-must-end-next-summer/ Loftus-Cheek did alright at Palace last season but is he really as good as/will he be as good as the (OTT) hype he has been getting? Can understand people's desire to see our academy players succeed in the first team but turning down the potential choice to sign a quality player just for the sake of seeing an academy player play in the first team is dumb isn't it? It's like clubs sticking to a manager for the sake of patience even though we all know it's going to go only one way. It is obviously still a little early to say Kovacic will be a success but if he does, we would be foolish to not try and sign him, wouldn't we? This especially after he has indirectly made the point of not wanting to go back to Madrid. Would like to think that Sarri would give Loftus-Cheek his chances to play games this season, particularly when the cup games come into play, and if Loftus-Cheek is as good as he/people think he is, then he would seize those opportunities to impress Sarri. If he does, then we'll have a good situation in our hands where players strive to get better and secure a spot in the starting XI, which is better than having only one player for one position and risk him stagnate and go nowhere. Also, if we do not try and sign Kovacic, if he turns out to be good, and we stick with Loftus-Cheek only, the same person who wrote that piece would probably later complain about the lack of squad depth. Having squad depth and squad competition can help improve players if managed properly. Tomo, Unionjack and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Jason said: Having squad depth and squad competition can help improve players if managed properly. I hope we think that way with CHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I hope we think that way with CHO I was disappointed we started 2 RWers in Willian and Pedro and didn't play Callum when Hazard still was not in 90 minute shape. But that's why Sarri is the manager. He really seems to fancy Willian, as does most of the rest of Europe. I am sure CHO will get some minutes later on. The system is still very much a work in progress but I really like the football we are playing. I just hope Luiz and Alonso don't get lit up terribly in some coming game. I absolutely see why many of the big teams drool over Alonso. He is rather unique in all Europe atm in terms of offensive skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Thought he was brilliant against Arsenal, so aware of what was going on as soon as he came on. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,190 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Another pot-stirrer Why Maurizio Sarri must not drop Ross Barkley for Mateo Kovacic against Newcastle https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/maurizio-sarri-barkley-kovacic-newcastle-15055102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, El P. said: Well, one thing is for sure. I can't see Kovačić and Hazard both going to Madrid. If it really comes to Eden leaving for them, our board will be smart enough to include Kovačić permanent buy in the deal. If he comes good for us, of course. Any deal for Hazard, we must include getting both Asencio and Kovacic. Nothing less Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, Vesper said: Another pot-stirrer Why Maurizio Sarri must not drop Ross Barkley for Mateo Kovacic against Newcastle https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/maurizio-sarri-barkley-kovacic-newcastle-15055102 4 hours ago, Vesper said: This article will cause some argy bargy I wager..... Opinion: This is the reason why Kovacic’s spell at Chelsea must end next summer https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/opinion-this-is-the-reason-why-kovacics-spell-at-chelsea-must-end-next-summer/ Such articles have only one reason - English bias. If Barkley and RLC were named Tshabalala and Djemba-Djemba respectively none of those outlets could care less about their fates. 11Drogba and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadistChicken 143 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Such articles have only one reason - English bias. If Barkley and RLC were named Tshabalala and Djemba-Djemba respectively none of those outlets could care less about their fates.I was going to say neither would we.But we signed djilobodji so i am not too sure anymoreSent from my ONEPLUS A3010 using Tapatalk Panic and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Vesper said: Another pot-stirrer Why Maurizio Sarri must not drop Ross Barkley for Mateo Kovacic against Newcastle https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/maurizio-sarri-barkley-kovacic-newcastle-15055102 For the moment is good that Barkely starts. Kovacic not ready yet for full game. I think Sarri mentioned something similar along the lines. Maybe by September he will be starting 11. Take it easy for now, ease him slowly into the PL. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 The idiots are out in force then writing stupid articles it seems. If the chance to get Kovacic comes up and the club doesn't take it to use RLC then we will have lost the plot. Its not even close. Ruben has to go on loan this season. 10000000% This graphic is very stupid. - Yes he has a robust frame but we've seen for years smaller players, the majority of the best PL players are below 6 ft and aren't as bulky, can do just as good as anybody if not better. - Being homegrown doesn't mean your a good player. Ask Gary Cahill, Danny Drinkwater or Victor Moses. - Room to improve yes but not at the expense of the chance to have such a talented player such as Kovacic who can contribute much more quicker? - Excellent technical ability? Again, not 100% sold on that. Hes a good dribbler, takes the easy pass too often though, hes technically sound enough but I think again under pressure he panics and isn't adventurous enough to play between the lines or cut defences open. - His work rate needs improved ten fold. - He needs to get fitter so he doesn't fade out of games come the 65th minute. If anybody and I mean anybody, in the world, think that Ruben should be prioritised next season over the chance of signing somebody as talented as Kovacic, who in that wee cameo probably looked better than RLC ever has in the PL, then I am sorry but get your head checked out. Unionjack, Sideshow Luiz, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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