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22 hours ago, Fernando said:

But we need creativity ala Fabregas. 

Who can we get that would do that? 

I thought it would be Gilmour but he is not getting any chance. So we need that creativity in that area. 

People keep saying we need a Fabregas but they need to move on from it. There is unfortunately only one Fabregas.

I mean seriously, pick me out a player of that style that is playing today? There isn’t a like for like out there and there probably wont ever be either because midfielders are now too safe as they don’t want to lose the ball or don’t possess the same quality in the final third, in and around the box as well as being a threat from deeper.

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Got the booking and maybe first half there were wee moments but thought majority of his game was a top performance.

Kante gets a lot of the credit tonight but don’t forget that Jorginho played very well tonight, got a game high 6 interceptions, won 2 tackles, made 1 clearance.

Also played 4 long balls whicu all 4 were accurate and 1 through ball which again was accurate through balls on top of his usual assured and good use of possession rarely misplacing passes. 

Was booked for how ever long also. He showed real discipline and also leadership throughout.

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9 minutes ago, Supermonkey said:

The man had a great tackle on Benzema. 

 

Think I'd play him over kovacic in the final 

I saw that. He also nutmegged Militao on the byline so smoothly I thought he was havertz on first glance.

Defensively he was carried a lot by Kante. I probably would start Kovacic in the final if he is 100% then.Jorginho can come on to calm games down but we will need every pair of legs vs that monstrous city side.

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hace 22 minutos, Magic Lamps dijo:

I saw that. He also nutmegged Militao on the byline so smoothly I thought he was havertz on first glance.

Defensively he was carried a lot by Kante. I probably would start Kovacic in the final if he is 100% then.Jorginho can come on to calm games down but we will need every pair of legs vs that monstrous city side.

Defensively carried? I would have to disagree.

I think Jorginho more than held his own out there defensively also tonight. Otherwise the whole team performance wouldnt have been so strong as particularly second half we really kicked it up a notch, you need both CMs to do the dirty stuff. Kante maybe looked like he was getting more in peoples faces but Jorginho was booked on the 14th minute (his only foul all game IIRC) so whilat walking a potential tightrope, to still have made the game high amount of 6 interceptions and 2 tackles which was more than Kante’s 5 inteceptions and 1 tackle, shows he did more than hold his own imo.

Yes Kante was excellent tonight no doubt but also this was hugely to the fact he made 3 key passes and carried the ball very well on top of his interceptions and tackle as well as being heavily involved for both goals.

I think, much like the Matic-Kante partnership with Conte, this Jorginho and Kante partnership only works so well when both players play well in there. Lets not forget they played a 3 in there tonight Madrid with Casemiro, Kroos and Modric and bar an iffy bit in the first half when he got booked, you couldn’t really say Jorginho put a foot wrong.

I get people are always split on him but don’t think theres anyone who could say he was a passenger or carried tonight. Not a chance.

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hace 8 minutos, Milan dijo:

I am going to be brutal but WBA and Arsenal - both defeats are solely on him and no one else.

Would be hugely harsh to say that.

West Brom was a shit show from start to finish. Defence, midfield and attack, narrowing it down to one person would he incredibly daft.

Even tonight, aye he’s basically gifted them their goal but at the same time theres 11 out there and the attackers have been the most disappointing players for me. No genuine input tonight second half and guiltily of missing big chances first half.

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4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Would be hugely harsh to say that.

West Brom was a shit show from start to finish. Defence, midfield and attack, narrowing it down to one person would he incredibly daft.

Even tonight, aye he’s basically gifted them their goal but at the same time theres 11 out there and the attackers have been the most disappointing players for me. No genuine input tonight second half and guiltily of missing big chances first half.

Have to disagree, sorry. Against WBA we were winning but his collapse meant us going 1 man down and the collapse could not be stopped. And Arsenal? No matter how shitty we were, Arsenal created nothing and would create nothing. He just lost it.

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hace 1 minuto, Milan dijo:

Have to disagree, sorry. Against WBA we were winning but his collapse meant us going 1 man down and the collapse could not be stopped. And Arsenal? No matter how shitty we were, Arsenal created nothing and would create nothing. He just lost it.

And if Havertz scored his chance or Pulisic? Or Zouma? Or Giroud there?

Goals win games, we havent created enough second half and the reaction would be different otherwise. 

Mount, Pulisic, Havertz, CHO, Giroud have all been worse. 

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6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

And if Havertz scored his chance or Pulisic? Or Zouma? Or Giroud there?

Goals win games, we havent created enough second half and the reaction would be different otherwise. 

Mount, Pulisic, Havertz, CHO, Giroud have all been worse. 

Does not matter, them missing chances does not equal us conceding goals (which leads to losing games). 

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