Jorginho

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

Would say I am surprised by this thread but I am not. Yes he missed a penalty but when he came on he was better than Mateo by a country mile. Wasnt difficult but it’s embarrassing saying ‘get him out’ etc because he missed a penalty in a game where we were shocking 😂

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Would say I am surprised by this thread but I am not. Yes he missed a penalty but when he came on he was better than Mateo by a country mile. Wasnt difficult but it’s embarrassing saying ‘get him out’ etc because he missed a penalty in a game where we were shocking 😂

Where were you when Jorginho was shit against West Ham? 

[Clockwork 1,794]

It amuses me how this guy has barely played in our terrible slide, yet most Chelsea fans want to blame. 

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Where were you when Jorginho was shit against West Ham? 

Probably here saying he played shit. If someone plays shit they play shit. But we played Arsenal tonight not West Ham? 

Just a bit ironic if he never took the penalty or even if he scored it, those get out comments wouldn’t be mentioned... its funny though he played 45 minutes and only had one memorable involvement in the game with the pen but his all round performance was definitely better than Kante’s and Kovacic’s in MF and better than most. Yet I dont see much in Reece’s thread, Ben’s thread, Mateo’s thread, Timo’s thread.... all who were piss poor tonight. Not much mention.

The get out comments in a season where he’s largely been out of the side as well? It is very embarrassing if I am honest 😂

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Probably here saying he played shit. If someone plays shit they play shit. But we played Arsenal tonight not West Ham? 

Just a bit ironic if he never took the penalty or even if he scored it, those get out comments wouldn’t be mentioned... its funny though he played 45 minutes and only had one memorable involvement in the game.

So the get out comments in a season where he’s largely been out of the side? It is very embarrassing if I am honest 😂

The problem with Jorginho is, he is not good enough. He is not good enough when he starts and he rarely even changes games when he comes on as a sub. 

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

12 minutes ago, Jason said:

The problem with Jorginho is, he is not good enough. He is not good enough when he starts and he rarely even changes games when he comes on as a sub. 

Rarely changes a game when he comes on, lets be honest if your going to tag him with that today especially, that is lazy and is precisely what I am on about in the above comment, instead of people mentioning the guys who started and were horrendous/have been the last month or so, they will come back to player X who isn’t a regular started in all realism isnt good enough. If he played every week I would get it but he doesn’t. 

If you were expecting anyone in our squad to change that game today you must of been dreaming. We gifted that to Arsenal and you could tell after the first 5-10 minutes how it would pan out. I am wondering if we are ever going to see Werner or Havertz score a goal in the upcoming games. Am actually wondering if Havertz will even be back starting at this rate. Yet people are more concerned because Jorginho who played 45 minutes missed a penalty.... 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Rarely changes a game when he comes on, lets be honest if your going to tag him with that today especially, that is lazy and is precisely what I am on about in the above comment, instead of people mentioning the guys who started and were horrendous/have been the last month or so, they will come back to player X who isn’t a regular started in all realism isnt good enough. If he played every week I would get it but he doesn’t. 

If you were expecting anyone in our squad to change that game today you must of been dreaming. We gifted that to Arsenal and you could tell after the first 5-10 minutes how it would pan out. I am wondering if we are ever going to see Werner or Havertz score a goal in the upcoming games. Am actually wondering if Havertz will even be back starting at this rate. Yet people are more concerned because Jorginho who played 45 minutes missed a penalty.... 

Who said anything about it being just about today?

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

Just now, Jason said:

Who said anything about it being just about today?

Come on man its no coincidence he misses a penalty and the get out shit starts 🤣 its a typical knee jerk reaction because of a penalty and its very embarrassing. If you cant see that then I don’t know. Nobody had posted anything in this thread between the West Ham game which was the Monday and the 17th of November. Which further backs my point because he didnt play in many of the games in between. It is an embarrassing overreaction because of a penalty miss in which there were easily 7/8 players who I would think people should be going off on their threads and commenting regarding their performances or whatever. But here we are. 

[Vesper 29,087]

3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Come on man its no coincidence he misses a penalty and the get out shit starts 🤣 its a typical knee jerk reaction because of a penalty and its very embarrassing. If you cant see that then I don’t know. Nobody had posted anything in this thread between the West Ham game which was the Monday and the 17th of November. Which further backs my point because he didnt play in many of the games in between. It is an embarrassing overreaction because of a penalty miss in which there were easily 7/8 players who I would think people should be going off on their threads and commenting regarding their performances or whatever. But here we are. 

I have been ripping him (one of the very few players this season) for ages. He destroys the pace of the game whenever he plays and is the worst defending DMF on any top 30 club.

I want him GONE. Lampard is clueless as to how to use him. He needs to go back to Serie A.

FUCK SARRI. 

He stuck us with a £57m white elephant. 

[Vesper 29,087]

Jorginho's agent provides update on midfielder's Chelsea future and potential transfer

Jorginho was linked with a move away from Chelsea in the summer transfer window but it appears he is going nowhere for the time being after his agent provided an update.

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/chelsea-transfer-news-agent-jorginho-19553766

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Jorginho's agent provides update on midfielder's Chelsea future and potential transfer

Jorginho was linked with a move away from Chelsea in the summer transfer window but it appears he is going nowhere for the time being after his agent provided an update.

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/chelsea-transfer-news-agent-jorginho-19553766

Firstly, Jorginho agent really likes to open his mouth, doesn't he? Secondly, his agent keeps on talking like Jorginho himself is widely wanted by the major clubs in Europe. 🙄

[Special Juan 27,457]

Good, keep talking, better players in my under 9's team.

[Vesper 29,087]

36 minutes ago, Jason said:

Firstly, Jorginho agent really likes to open his mouth, doesn't he? Secondly, his agent keeps on talking like Jorginho himself is widely wanted by the major clubs in Europe. 🙄

I am so depressed every time I see him on the pitch for us

it is like when Lampard was ramming Azpi in at LB

its capitulation

It is just crazy how many shit buys we have made since summer of 2017

IF Werner and Havertz actually shock me and totally go bust

plus Pulisic ends up being too injury-prone to do much with (plus, and this would just be the back-breaker, Ziyech goes the Pulisic route)

we have basically semi-destroyed the club soon (other than if the youth products come good in a huge way)

so many are rapidly ageing

and so many are unsaleable and their contracts soon run out, so might leave on frees

our dregs are TRULY dregs, as in NOBODY really wants them, or wants them for damn near free cost

 

I can say this with 100, no 1000000000% certainty

Lampard can NEVER survive a Werner/Havertz combined fail

zero chance

and Roman surely will pack it in if all but Chilwell (just speaking of the 6 thsi summer) are trash/perma injury/ and/or gone in 2 years (as Thiago is too old to count on beyond next season, Kante, who obviously we are going to keep until he is ready to go to MLS or Arabia in 2, 3 years max)

Roman would be insane to keep tossing in hundreds of millions IF we have over £400m or so in bust buys in last 3 or 4 years, plus Marina and the board of selling in timely fashion and losing another 300, £400m

we also will have no new stadium for well over a decade or more (if ever under Roman)

I am in a very dark place if I start thinking about the two Germans being busts

dog help us all if they are and if Puli is a perma glass doll

if that happens, thsi is not the type of shit we can buy our way out of

the team will not be in CL

and thus, combined with a tiny, obsolete stadium, and the loan army disappearing (the bigger ones, as their contracts run out), plus Brexit now blocking lower cost buys of high potential younger EU players

we will slide hard down for years

we really will become the new Arsenal we really are in an incredibly dangerous place if these buys do not work out

COVID-19 market is the final (or one of the final) nails in coffin

we are not going to get SHIT for all these giant name sales

when I can start to do a final tally on the lost revenue due to our failures at time sales, it is going to be jaw dropping, I think it will be closing in on 450m or so

just from the refused sales of Willian and Alonso its going to end up around £100m lost

and that is but two players

add in the total net loss when Kepa is sold off (counting a huge chunk of his salary as well), plus the Drinkwater complete shit away of £60m, and we are up to damn near £250m in net loss when the books are closed out

and that is now only for FOUR players

yes, Hazard and Costa and Morata were brilliant business, but all that £130m or so (which is the net profit between the 3) profit is just crushed by hundreds of millions in bollocksed up other buys and refused sales, the shit truly does start to add up, and add up exponentially

if most of the buys goes bust (from Pulisic onward) it might be us as a top 4 force-destroying as well

many miles to go before we get to that level of disaster, but the path to it can at least be seen

[Alabama 1,992]

13 hours ago, Vesper said:

I am so depressed every time I see him on the pitch for us

it is like when Lampard was ramming Azpi in at LB

its capitulation

It is just crazy how many shit buys we have made since summer of 2017

IF Werner and Havertz actually shock me and totally go bust

plus Pulisic ends up being too injury-prone to do much with (plus, and this would just be the back-breaker, Ziyech goes the Pulisic route)

we have basically semi-destroyed the club soon (other than if the youth products come good in a huge way)

so many are rapidly ageing

and so many are unsaleable and their contracts soon run out, so might leave on frees

our dregs are TRULY dregs, as in NOBODY really wants them, or wants them for damn near free cost

 

I can say this with 100, no 1000000000% certainty

Lampard can NEVER survive a Werner/Havertz combined fail

zero chance

and Roman surely will pack it in if all but Chilwell (just speaking of the 6 thsi summer) are trash/perma injury/ and/or gone in 2 years (as Thiago is too old to count on beyond next season, Kante, who obviously we are going to keep until he is ready to go to MLS or Arabia in 2, 3 years max)

Roman would be insane to keep tossing in hundreds of millions IF we have over £400m or so in bust buys in last 3 or 4 years, plus Marina and the board of selling in timely fashion and losing another 300, £400m

we also will have no new stadium for well over a decade or more (if ever under Roman)

I am in a very dark place if I start thinking about the two Germans being busts

dog help us all if they are and if Puli is a perma glass doll

if that happens, thsi is not the type of shit we can buy our way out of

the team will not be in CL

and thus, combined with a tiny, obsolete stadium, and the loan army disappearing (the bigger ones, as their contracts run out), plus Brexit now blocking lower cost buys of high potential younger EU players

we will slide hard down for years

we really will become the new Arsenal we really are in an incredibly dangerous place if these buys do not work out

COVID-19 market is the final (or one of the final) nails in coffin

we are not going to get SHIT for all these giant name sales

when I can start to do a final tally on the lost revenue due to our failures at time sales, it is going to be jaw dropping, I think it will be closing in on 450m or so

just from the refused sales of Willian and Alonso its going to end up around £100m lost

and that is but two players

add in the total net loss when Kepa is sold off (counting a huge chunk of his salary as well), plus the Drinkwater complete shit away of £60m, and we are up to damn near £250m in net loss when the books are closed out

and that is now only for FOUR players

yes, Hazard and Costa and Morata were brilliant business, but all that £130m or so (which is the net profit between the 3) profit is just crushed by hundreds of millions in bollocksed up other buys and refused sales, the shit truly does start to add up, and add up exponentially

if most of the buys goes bust (from Pulisic onward) it might be us as a top 4 force-destroying as well

many miles to go before we get to that level of disaster, but the path to it can at least be seen

Agree with lots of your assessments but Kai and Timo cant become shit....the level of their talent is too much for that...although they might  not make it here but at the end of the day they will surely make it just hope its here....

[NikkiCFC 8,063]

I do not understand why so much hate for him.

Last 12 PL games:

Jorginho starts: 5 wins and 2 draws.

Jorginho does not start: 5 losses!

In the last couple of days Sherwood and Maddison praising him to heaven only our fanbase do not rate him... Pep wanted him... Plays great for Italy.

He did not cost us one single goal this season we mostly have 70% or more possession which is his main task... What else people want?

On Shed End people voted him for MOTM against Spurs but not single vote here.

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I do not understand why so much hate for him.

Last 12 PL games:

Jorginho starts: 5 wins and 2 draws.

Jorginho does not start: 5 losses!

In the last couple of days Sherwood and Maddison praising him to heaven only our fanbase do not rate him... Pep wanted him... Plays great for Italy.

He did not cost us one single goal this season we mostly have 70% or more possession which is his main task... What else people want?

On Shed End people voted him for MOTM against Spurs but not single vote here.

Unfortunately he’s just someone who people don’t seem to see the value in having someone like him in the team despite his obvious quality at retaining possession and the fact Tuchel is heavy possession orientated. He will be a key cog under Tuchel I feel. No surprise hes recalled him and no surprise we played our best football in the last 2 seasons with him, Kovacic and Mount in the first 11. 

[milka 3,357]

 

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

Just now, milka said:

 

how has he been MOTM 3 times when CHO was MOTM vs Wolves and Burnley whilst Werner was MOTM on Sunday. The Jorginho fanboys are hyping him up again when he is all but a stopgap