Vesper 30,195 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Sideshow Luiz said: I was all over that site when we were getting Sarri. And this one to watch matches: https://footballia.net/ (you have to register, but it's free) I didn't want to just see highlights of Napoli's play. I wanted to watch full matches to see what their play looked like when it wasn't all Harlem Globetrotter-esque highlights. Full matches are the ONLY way to truly judge, and multiple ones at that. It is how I try and rate players too. It is how I fell in love with Junior Firpo and Nicolo Barella.  Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: Full matches are the ONLY way to truly judge, and multiple ones at that. It is how I try and rate players too. It is how I fell in love with Junior Firpo and Nicolo Barella.  Create an account. There are tons of matches on there.  Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Saw a post in the comments on WAGNH If he's so useless and shit, why is every team trying to man-mark him out of the match?  The team is set up to go through him. It has very little to do with his qualities, which you seem to be alluding to. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, LAM09 said: The team is set up to go through him. It has very little to do with his qualities, which you seem to be alluding to.  Vesper and I had a conversation about this. I'm alluding to him not being shit or useless.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Vesper and I had a conversation about this. I'm alluding to him not being shit or useless.  What is he, as of now?Number of passes is the only stat I see followed by his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 21, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2019 We are supposed to be taking advantage of the space other teams leave when they overload the center just to mark Jorginho. But our players don't know how to play quick one touch football, they love hugging the ball and we have poor players on the wings to exploit the space when the center is overloaded. Sarri has to buy his Alba and Alves to combat this because Jorginho is his Busquets, they maintain the tempo of possession and control the whole game for the team. Every coach that has Jorginho in their team will start him 9 times out of 10, I don't think he's as bad as people are making him out to be. Tomo, DDA, Johnnyeye and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, LAM09 said: What is he, as of now? Number of passes is the only stat I see followed by his name. Somewhere on the spectrum between shit/useless and Ballon D'or favourite. I'd say decent to pretty good. Better than he's shown recently. I also think Hazard is better than he's shown recently. Willian about the same. David Luiz pretty consistent (but his lows are terrible). Azpi hasn't been very good lately either, but I still think he's pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Number of passes is the only stat I see followed by his name. City keeper has more assists then jorginho that's sad put Mikel in the sarri ball formation he would get  the same passes stats as Jorginho I bet ye pep saying to himself thank god I dodged a bullet not getting Jorginho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 16 hours ago, the wes said: City keeper has more assists then jorginho that's sad put Mikel in the sarri ball formation he would get  the same passes stats as Jorginho I bet ye pep saying to himself thank god I dodged a bullet not getting Jorginho Had Jorginho gone to City, you lot here would be slamming Marina for messing up the transfer and not backing the manager!  On the assist count, said it before, how do you expect him to get the numbers when Jorginho has incompetent finishers ahead of him? You can't complain about us having no goalscorers and then complain about players not racking up assists at the same time. Dazzy_Vance, DDA, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Pundits love to make a scapegoat out of a foreign player that came in the country for big bucks. Jorginho is the least of this club's problems, he'd actually look monstrous in the current City side. If you watched City's 1st half yesterday you would have seen them play the same dull football we've played for the past weeks, but the individual quality made the difference. We do not have that, I believe Sarri when he says players keep hold of the ball too much and do not speed up the play in the final end, I do not believe for a single moment he would say this if he would instruct them to do those things, he's stubborn and a lot of things but not a hypocrite. I do honestly believe there are players that would not get out of their confort zone and would not take any risks because they are technically limited and have a low football IQ and no matter how much they would practice something on the training ground they would not apply game time because they are past it. And the first thing that comes to my mind is Willian the other day shooting straight into Marcos Alonso... Past it, dumb, one dimensional footballer with no awareness, just eyes on the ball and shoot like an idiot regardless of what is happening around him. And unfortunately the squad is filled with this type of players... Johnnyeye, Vesper, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 He will improve if the players around him do. He would be dominant at City IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Had Jorginho gone to City, you lot here would be slamming Marina for messing up the transfer and not backing the manager! [emoji38] On the assist count, said it before, how do you expect him to get the numbers when Jorginho has incompetent finishes ahead of him? You can't complain about us having no goalscorers and then complain about players not racking up assists at the same time.     It hasn't stopped Hazard. People can't eulogise about his numbers despite our shortcomings in the final third, then use same reasoning to essentially give Jorginho a "bye", regardless of whether the former plays higher up the field or not.       One rule for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, LAM09 said: It hasn't stopped Hazard. People can't be singing his praises for his numbers despite our shortcomings in the final third & use that same reasoning to essentially give Jorginho a "bye", regardless of whether the former plays high up the field or not.     One rule for all   Really? You're just gonna ignore the fact that one plays much higher up the pitch and one plays much deeper?  .If people want Jorginho to rack up the assists, he would have to get forward a lot more but if he does that and is caught out, people would then moan about him leaving gaps defensively for opponents to expose. Feels like because we have big issues in the team, people are just looking for more issues by asking players to do something that's not their main job. Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Really? You're just gonna ignore the fact that one plays much higher up the pitch and one plays much deeper?  .If people want Jorginho to rack up the assists, he would have to get forward a lot more but if he does that and is caught out, people would then moan about him leaving gaps defensively for opponents to expose. Feels like because we have big issues in the team, people are just looking for more issues by asking players to do something that's not their main job. They alongside the same attack, so yes. His shortcomings are down to him for the most part right now. I can't beat the Willian/Alonso drum any harder, so he's next in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, LAM09 said: Â Â They alongside the same attack, so yes. His shortcomings are down to him for the most part right now. I can't beat the Willian/Alonso drum any harder, so he's next in line. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Nice conversation [emoji1303]Â Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, LAM09 said: Nice conversation  Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Dazzy_Vance said: He will improve if the players around him do. He would be dominant at City IMO. Dog help us all if Shitty get Neves. I would take him in a heartbeat over Jorginho. Insane passing and a bomber of a shooter from distance, plus much more physical  Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Leicester City – Highlights http://yfl.matchat.online/player/html/grenJGrG6U?popup=yes&autoplay=1  superb game btw, one of the top 5 or so in EPL this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bit harsh to compare Jorginho and Neves in terms of passing for me. We play against teams that park the bus every game & Wolves don't. Jorginho would also have a field day against that sort of defence from Leicester. Completely open. kellzfresh and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Dazzy_Vance said: He will improve if the players around him do. He would be dominant at City IMO. He'd be on the bench at City. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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