Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Jason said: He has the potential to be better but better now? No. To say he is better than our current midfielders when he's nowhere near a finished article is just ludicrous. If he is as good as you're making him out to be, then why hasn't he gotten more minutes at Bayern? Why are Bayern looking to loan (or even sell) him? On top of that, Sanches' future has been uncertain for some time now. If we really wanted him, we would have gone for him way earlier in the summer. The fact that we're looking at potentially signing him at this point and especially after signing Bakayoko suggest he'll be a backup. You can't compare a club like Bayern to Chelsea. It's the same case with Morata is he now bad because he didn't start at Real? Fabregas is not good in defense and is very bad under pressure and Kante does very little in attack. Renato Sanches has it all and the most important thing is he can control the game we might have someone who can help us get the ball to the other end of the pitch(besides Hazard) instead of watching us sending long balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: You can't compare a club like Bayern to Chelsea. It's the same case with Morata is he now bad because he didn't start at Real? Fabregas is not good in defense and is very bad under pressure and Kante does very little in attack. Renato Sanches has it all and the most important thing is he can control the game we might have someone who can help us get the ball to the other end of the pitch(besides Hazard) instead of watching us sending long balls. Don't think you can really compare Morata's situation at Real with Sanches' at Bayern. The former had proven that he can perform and score goals but he just wasn't favored by Zidane, who preferred to play Benzema upfront. With Sanches, he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders but right now, he hasn't done anything to suggest he'll immediately displace Kante, Bakayoko and even Fabregas. I practically watched all the Bayern games last season and whenever Sanches played, he underwhelmed and did nothing like the complete midfield you're suggesting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Don't think you can really compare Morata's situation at Real with Sanches' at Bayern. The former had proven that he can perform and score goals but he just wasn't favored by Zidane, who preferred to play Benzema upfront. With Sanches, he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders but right now, he hasn't done anything to suggest he'll immediately displace Kante, Bakayoko and even Fabregas. I practically watched all the Bayern games last season and whenever Sanches played, he underwhelmed and did nothing like the complete midfield you're suggesting there. He didn't play a lot you can't expect him to be great in a couple of minutes. The point is he would fit more in a 2 mad midfield better than Fabregas and Kante,why you ask? Because Fabregas and Kante are very limited you could see that againts Bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: He didn't play a lot you can't expect him to be great in a couple of minutes. The point is he would fit more in a 2 mad midfield better than Fabregas and Kante,why you ask? Because Fabregas and Kante are very limited you could see that againts Bayern. That much is obvious but is Sanches the solution to that? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, Jason said: That much is obvious but is Sanches the solution to that? No. Actually he is,he can deal under pressure,he is composed and offers a lot in both defense and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sanches Kante Bakayoko Fabregas would actually be the best core group of CMs in the league. That's proper ambition and competition. Won't ever happen though I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQman2121 17 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Chelsea4 said: Actually he is,he can deal under pressure,he is composed and offers a lot in both defense and attack. You're talking straight nonsense. He's 19 years old for Christ sake and none of his tape at Bayern reflects anything close to the player you're describing. His good will from Euros is long gone now. Have you perhaps confused him with Luka Modric? Because the Renato Sanches you're describing only exists in your videogames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Chelsea4 said: He didn't play a lot you can't expect him to be great in a couple of minutes. The point is he would fit more in a 2 mad midfield better than Fabregas and Kante,why you ask? Because Fabregas and Kante are very limited you could see that againts Bayern. Well when they played Arsenal, you could say the opposite. Sanches did not look composed under pressure and lost the ball when pressured and led to them conceding a goal. And in the PL, he would have less time to think and play as he did against us. Just to put things into perspective. Fabregas was quality against Arsenal in our pre-season game against them while Sanches against Arsenal was at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 55 minutes ago, GQman2121 said: You're talking straight nonsense. He's 19 years old for Christ sake and none of his tape at Bayern reflects anything close to the player you're describing. His good will from Euros is long gone now. Have you perhaps confused him with Luka Modric? Because the Renato Sanches you're describing only exists in your videogames. I bought him in FIFA. He's not that good there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Chelsea? said: I bought him in FIFA. He's not that good there either. Mate u can't rated a player by fifa Bakayoko rated awful in fifa does that make him an awful player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Stats said: Well when they played Arsenal, you could say the opposite. Sanches did not look composed under pressure and lost the ball when pressured and led to them conceding a goal. And in the PL, he would have less time to think and play as he did against us. Just to put things into perspective. Fabregas was quality against Arsenal in our pre-season game against them while Sanches against Arsenal was at fault. Fabregas has the same issue for a long time now he is terrible under pressure. Arsenal didn't press much and we had all the time to move the ball forward. It was not Sanches fault for the goal. Bayern's positioning and movement is what costed them the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 8 hours ago, GQman2121 said: You're talking straight nonsense. He's 19 years old for Christ sake and none of his tape at Bayern reflects anything close to the player you're describing. His good will from Euros is long gone now. Have you perhaps confused him with Luka Modric? Because the Renato Sanches you're describing only exists in your videogames. He was great at Benfica. He was great for Portugal. It's difficult to get many minutes for Bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: Fabregas has the same issue for a long time now he is terrible under pressure. Arsenal didn't press much and we had all the time to move the ball forward. It was not Sanches fault for the goal. Bayern's positioning and movement is what costed them the goal. He lost the ball, either way under pressure and he was at fault. Arsenal pressed him there and he lost it and they conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Stats said: He lost the ball, either way under pressure and he was at fault. Arsenal pressed him there and he lost it and they conceded. Like i said,Bayern's positioning and movement of the ball is what costed them and also there defending was not great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Chelsea4 said: Like i said,Bayern's positioning and movement of the ball is what costed them and also there defending was not great either. If you are saying he is so good under pressure, he would not have lost the ball under those circumstances. Their defending was bad but the primary man at fault was Sanches. No two ways about it. He should not have lost the ball there and should have played it when he had the opportunity. That will be more of a reality check if he comes to the PL. He won't be coming here anyway. Sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Stats said: If you are saying he is so good under pressure, he would not have lost the ball under those circumstances. Their defending was bad but the primary man at fault was Sanches. No two ways about it. He should not have lost the ball there and should have played it when he had the opportunity. That will be more of a reality check if he comes to the PL. He won't be coming here anyway. Sure of that. What do you want him to do? If the of ball movement is bad there is nothing he can do there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 According to some reports Leon Goretzka to sign for Bayern Munich if that's the case Sanches will 100% be leaving B.Munich on loan or permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said: What do you want him to do? If the of ball movement is bad there is nothing he can do there. You can say the same with Fabregas then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Stats said: You can say the same with Fabregas then. No,because Michy,Moses,Alonso gave him the optinions maybe it was not great but still we had good movement of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He does not offer any creativity,so I would not want Chelsea to buy him. We need someone creative in our midfield due to the fact that Bakoyoko and Kante do not offer us enough creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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