🇪🇸 Álvaro Morata

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

. I am not a Higuain fan, I think he is on downward slope of career and we dont offer multi-year contracts to players over 30, and he is 31 in a little over 4 months.

Seems we are on same page as touching the issue of striker as the only striker i want here over Morata is icardi....Morata is not even much of our problem....lack of quality and goal scoring right winger is very important no matter the amount of goals the striker scores...

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26 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

Seems we are on same page as touching the issue of striker as the only striker i want here over Morata is icardi....Morata is not even much of our problem....lack of quality and goal scoring right winger is very important no matter the amount of goals the striker scores...

Well, I would deffo take Kane or Griezmann over Morata too, BUT I did say remotely available, lol. Mbappe isn't a pure 9, so I don't include him (he is the number one footballer in world for my money, atm, but I am sure others will disagree).

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Well, I would deffo take Kane or Griezmann over Morata too, BUT I did say remotely available, lol. Mbappe isn't a pure 9, so I don't include him (he is the number one footballer in world for my money, atm, but I am sure others will disagree).

Kane and Griezmann aint available....

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24 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

Kane and Griezmann aint available....

Which is what I just said, lol.

 

T Well, I would deffo take Kane or Griezmann over Morata too, BUT I did say remotely available,

[akgw13 867]

I've been arguing that Morata could come good, That first game was about as poor as possible for him. he was on the ground complaining and had a seemingly negative energy the entire match. Just one match but I am much closer now than I was 4 hours ago to thinking he needs to go at any and all costs. What a disappointment. 

[Special Juan 28,140]

Terrible excuse of a footballer, weak in body, weak in mind and his body language is shocking.

Get rid ASAP

[Superblue 6,372]

Thought he would prove more effective in this style but on today's evidence not looking promising.

Not everyone is sold on Higuain, I think mostly because of his age, but he has proven pedigree scoring goals and is already used to the Sarri system. We only need to see today how good Jorginho looked with someone used to this way. I think Higuain would be a success here for a couple of seasons which is just what we need to get back challenging again. 

[BXL70 396]

There are few transfer talks about Morata. Does it mean is in the plan of Sarri? What do think you guys who are in the know? Thanks! 

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12 minutes ago, BXL70 said:

There are few transfer talks about Morata. Does it mean is in the plan of Sarri? What do think you guys who are in the know? Thanks! 

Def the wrong place for peeps in the know my friend.

We are all as daft,baffled and clueless as each other/

The craic is tho is to try and suss out just what the fuck is going on before some plank on Twitter or a clickbait site tells us!

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20 hours ago, akgw13 said:

I've been arguing that Morata could come good, That first game was about as poor as possible for him. he was on the ground complaining and had a seemingly negative energy the entire match. Just one match but I am much closer now than I was 4 hours ago to thinking he needs to go at any and all costs. What a disappointment. 

You are where I am at. I was genuinely excited that maybe he would at least try and fit into a Sarri type style of play

BUT

his performance yesterday was absolutely SHAMBOLIC

his attitude, everything is SHIT

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

You are where I am at. I was genuinely excited that maybe he would at least try and fit into a Sarri type style of play

BUT

his performance yesterday was absolutely SHAMBOLIC

his attitude, everything is SHIT

My thoughts too. I was really open minded about him possibly working under Sarri but all the old doubts resurfaced/

I'm truly sorry for the old boy but more sorry for us if we have to keep osing him/

Who knows. He might just be warming up!

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Let's not forget this was Perth Glory... The guy still hasn't learned to stay on his feet and how to utilize his size! All he has to do in this system is play an effective deep lying forward role and he should get tap ins from cutback passes. 

He did have a couple nice link ups with Barkley and Pedro but overall he still misses a ton of chances and gets bossed.

If we can find a replacement I'd be all for it but if that replacement is Higuain then it doesn't seem like smart business.

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14 minutes ago, iceboy said:

https://twitter.com/fraporzio95/status/1022227921048666123?s=21

 

Oh, FFS!, £70m valuation for Morata??? The same as with Willian to Barca, and the exact same shit is going to happen.

We are going to get fucking stuck with BOTH, when we could have had £120m fucking pounds and been done with the trouble.  GRRRRRRRR

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13 hours ago, Vesper said:

Oh, FFS!, £70m valuation for Morata??? The same as with Willian to Barca, and the exact same shit is going to happen.

We are going to get fucking stuck with BOTH, when we could have had £120m fucking pounds and been done with the trouble.  GRRRRRRRR

Double grrrr if we go and get Higuain  ffs!! Chelsea put £62m tag on Alvaro Morata ahead of AC Milan talks http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11449373/chelsea-tell-ac-to-pay-163-62m-for-morata

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Sell

Get a normal striker...

[Hamilton 2,120]

Is it so strange that we want our money back? Looks to me its normal we want as much as possible, other clubs also max out our negotiations..

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20 hours ago, Vesper said:

Oh, FFS!, £70m valuation for Morata??? The same as with Willian to Barca, and the exact same shit is going to happen.

We are going to get fucking stuck with BOTH, when we could have had £120m fucking pounds and been done with the trouble.  GRRRRRRRR

Its completely false that these 120m could be used to buy a lot of talented player. Right after a club sell players for big money, other clubs will overprice their own player in order to get the most out of the situation. I don't remember a single time when a team sold a player for big money then was able to invest the money in lot of good players.

Liverpool sold Torres for 50m, then had to pay 35m for Andy Carroll.

Junvetus sold Pogba back to United for 105m Euros, then had to pay 90m euros to get Higuain...

Neymar was sold to 200m, so Borussia asked 105m for Dembele (!!).

That 120m would not mean more quality in the squad, the team would still be getting the same players but for a bigger price.

 

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1 hour ago, Henrique said:

Its completely false that these 120m could be used to buy a lot of talented player. Right after a club sell players for big money, other clubs will overprice their own player in order to get the most out of the situation. I don't remember a single time when a team sold a player for big money then was able to invest the money in lot of good players.

Liverpool sold Torres for 50m, then had to pay 35m for Andy Carroll.

Junvetus sold Pogba back to United for 105m Euros, then had to pay 90m euros to get Higuain...

Neymar was sold to 200m, so Borussia asked 105m for Dembele (!!).

That 120m would not mean more quality in the squad, the team would still be getting the same players but for a bigger price.

 

Tosh. It was 2 sales, £65m (Willian) and £55m (Morata), not some £200m global blockbuster. Also, we could have been buying players before that as well.

 

Under your positing we could never cut any good deals if we sold any players of worth, nor could any clubs who sold players in the £40m to £80m range (and especially above). Also if you think £120m wont bring quality, you need to seriously take a look at some of the QUALITY transfers that massive teams have gotten this window, and the prices they paid.

 

Examples of loaded (money-wise) teams paying fair prices

Thomas Lemar to AM, £63m

Naby Keïta to the scousers, £54m, explosive MF, pretty fair price given his ability

Douglas Costa to Juve  £36m (and from Bayern, who drive hard bargains)

Gelson Martins to AM  FREE (he is easily a £40m plus player, he renounced contract due to Sporting Lisbon nightmare)

Jorginho to us £57m when add-ons are counted, thats not an overpay at all for a top 5 in world DMF/Deep holding playmaker

Malcom to Barca £37m (great price for a superb RW)

Fabinho to the scousers £40m (far better player than Bakayoko, who we paid same for)

Corentin Tolisso to Bayern last year £37m for a superb young MF, another one we cocked up

Federico Bernardeschi to Juve last year for only £36m

Leon Goretzka to Bayern on a FREE for one of best young CMF's in the world

Stefan de Vrij to Inter on a FREE for a great CB

Clément Lenglet to Barca for £32m  he is a superb young CB, another one I really wanted us to pursue

João Cancelo to Juve for £36m, a great young RB, he looked the dog's bollocks at Inter last year

Álvaro Odriozola to Real Madrid for £27m, another superb young RB, miles beyond Zappacosta

Leonardo Bonucci to Milan for £37m last year, great price even though he was 30, he has at least 3 years left at a really high level

Iñigo Martínez to Atheletic Bibao for £28m for a superb CB

Lucas Torreira to Arsenal £27m for another superb young DMF

Arthur Melo to Barca £27m for another great Brasilian CMF

Franck Kessié to Milan lat year for £18m, a steal, he has come on like gangbusters

Jean Michaël Seri to Fulham for £27m, a great price

 

 

 

 

 

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On 7/22/2018 at 4:41 PM, OneMoSalah said:

Morata doesn't have an all round game? Hes fast, good technically, can play one or two touch, intelligent mover without the ball, good in the air... just because he was poor in the second half of the season after being arguably our most important player in the first half of the season means nothing. Fatigue, injury, loss of form, no winter break, team as a whole struggled... all different variables, fair enough maybe none of them are applicable or maybe some are but he definitely deserves another season because he showed that he has definitely got something in him as a player (unlike Bakayoko who only looked like a reasonable player in 2 games the whole season). 

We are linked with Higuain because regardless we need better options up front... he is a known goalscorer and also a guy who worked with Sarri as well as the fact Juve need to sell to comply with FFP. Rugani isn't necessarily better than any CBs we've got but hes coming because hes worked with Sarri and fits the mould of what he wants in a CB. Higuain yes hes better than Morata but him coming doesn't necessarily mean its as simple as Sarri has weighed up Morata in 4 or 5 training sessions and doesn't want him. Regardless, Batshuayi and Giroud's futures are also up for debate. Batshuayi for me would be the first guy to go because he is such a limited footballer in terms of his actual all round game.

In the past people also slated Costa (who for me, was the biggest loss from our team last year, not just in terms of goals but everything else he offers) so it just really goes to show that none of us are actually really happy when we have any decent strikers.... 

And for me personally, it is even stupider to consider selling him when we finally have an extremely attack minded manager, who's Napoli side created the most chances in Serie A over a 3 year period, had the most shots on target and most goals scored. He will get plenty of chances in this team and his skill set is much better than Higuains in my eyes so he will offer more in terms of the build up as well as probably getting 15+ goals. 

Also keep reading he wants to leave apparently? Where? Is there a source? Or is it just twitter/facebook shit?

I was so full of gope for him when we got him. It seemed perfect.

But whats your thoughts on what you have seen of Morata so far? Still gonna thrive or fall down allot?

Conte said he could turn him into a killer. I got a job on a certain lady I'd hire him for!

Hes full of mental issues. The lads just not got a strikers mentality, no intensity at all. Hes too nice. Add that with fuck all confidence and a failure to stay upright and you have a none striker

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Chelsea manager Maurizio Sarri 'still waiting for the best Morata'

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/chelsea/story/3577874/chelsea-manager-maurizio-sarri-still-waiting-for-the-best-morata

 

NICE, France -- Maurizio Sarri said he is still waiting to see the best version of Alvaro Morata at Chelsea, but he praised the Spaniard's performance in Saturday's penalty shootout friendly victory over Inter Milan.

Cesar Azpilicueta netted the winning spot kick as Chelsea triumphed 5-4 in the shootout after a 1-1 draw in their International Champions Cup opener at the Allianz Riviera, with owner Roman Abramovich in attendance.

Pedro Rodriguez had earlier opened the scoring for Sarri's men on his 31st birthday after good work from Morata, who provided an impressive focal point up front before being replaced by Tammy Abraham in the 64th minute.

Morata's future has been clouded by uncertainty all summer after a disappointing first season in English football saw him score just three times in the final five months of the campaign, and Chelsea have been linked with signing Juventus striker Gonzalo Higuain to replace him.

Speaking after the match, however, Sarri insisted that Morata is in his plans.

"I'm still waiting for the best Morata," he said. "In the first match [against Perth Glory] Morata did not play very well, in Australia.

"But tonight, especially in the first 30 minutes, he improved a lot. I am satisfied and I am very confident in him for the future."

Sarri also revealed that he had been encouraged by Chelsea's performance, but wants them to speed up their possession game even further as they build towards the start of the new Premier League season in a fortnight's time.

"So far, I am satisfied," he added. "I am of course waiting for the other players from the World Cup but these players gave me total availability. So now I am satisfied. I've seen in the match something that we tried during the sessions. So far, so good.

"I like the sound: 'Sarri-ball, Sarri-ball, Sarri-ball'. But I don't know the meaning, really. Because we move the ball very quickly? This evening we moved the ball well, but I think not at the right speed.

"You have to move the ball at a great speed on the floor, otherwise we risk playing for 90 minutes with 75 percent of possession but without scoring. So we have to improve on this."

Academy prospects Ethan Ampadu and Callum Hudson-Odoi were given another opportunity to impress from the start and showed promising flashes, with the latter afforded 82 minutes on the pitch.

"I don't know if they will play this season in the Premier League," he said of Ampadu and Hudson-Odoi. "But I know that these names will be very famous in the next years."