closed Chelsea v West Ham

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

3 minutes ago, Mana said:

I'm not joking. Dead serious. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Ivanovic is a huge liability. Yet he will be our starting XI next season.

And unless you made a typo on what you said, you basically agreed with me that Chelsea's defence is an utter joke.

This forum is gonna send me insane.  Obviously Ivanovic is shite and the defence is an utter joke.
But are you seriously blaming Conte for it?

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

2 minutes ago, Mana said:

I want Chelsea to be fearful again, and having a weak back four will not accomplish this. Maybe it's not Conte's fault that we still have a shite defence but you can't tell me we don't have anyone better than Ivanovic...

I definitely think it's not Conte's "fault" it's beyond me how can anyone think that, borderline ridiculous. Nor any other manager we previously had.

[Pizy 18,907]

We were never going to be rid of Ivanovic this season. The best we can hope for is that he's benched for the majority of the time. The board and Roman love him and were never going to sell him after extending his contract.

There's still time to sign who we need but I'm running out of faith we will.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

16 minutes ago, Mana said:

Bench the guy.

All right, he benches him. In favour of whom?

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Just now, Mana said:

Azpi? You know, let him play his favourable position?

Who plays left? 

[Unionjack 7,531]

I'd keep Bane on the bench and just use him if we get a corner in the final minutes and we are behind or drawing. Let his rubber neck rwang his head in the way of the ball and win the match. Otherwise Id keep sticking speed into his water bottle.

We all know the only reason Mou played him was cause he gave good BJs

[Special Juan 28,141]

Throw Aina in, just do it. I'm telling you now he cannot be any worse than Ivanovic. If the kid makes a mistake then we say we have tried and it will be a learning curve, but we don't give up on him. Look at the amount of mistakes Brana made last season, it's time to grow some balls and allow this kid his chance.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

42 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I definitely think it's not Conte's "fault" it's beyond me how can anyone think that, borderline ridiculous. Nor any other manager we previously had.

 

37 minutes ago, Mana said:

...okay, then whose fault is it? The board? Yes, it's their fault for extending his contract but do they have the final say on the starting XI telling Conte (or any other manager we previously had), Ivanovic MUST play if fit?

Bench the guy.

Conte is ofcourse not at fault here. The man's been here for 3 weeks. Can't expect him to fix all the problems the last manager caused.

He has already instilled a number of attacking patterns into our game, something that Mourinho couldn't accomplish in 2 and a half years.

Mourinho is directly to blame for the shitty defence we have today. He chose to go with this back four.

He had David Luiz yet chose Cahill and an aging Terry over him. He had Filipe Luis yet chose to keep playing Azpi out of position and Ivanovic at right back.

It's just typical Mourinho.  Short term over long term and it ended up biting us in the ass.

Now we're in this mess and Conte and the board are expected  to change a team, that was taught and designed to park the bus the moment we faced a side that could string three passes together, in 3 weeks and 1 fucking transfer window.

[Unionjack 7,531]

5 minutes ago, Mana said:

*Mana disappears*

[Unionjack 7,531]

Dunno how that happened Mods

Delete please

Ta

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

42 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I definitely think it's not Conte's "fault" it's beyond me how can anyone think that, borderline ridiculous. Nor any other manager we previously had.

 

36 minutes ago, Mana said:

...okay, then whose fault is it? The board? Yes, it's their fault for extending his contract but do they have the final say on the starting XI telling Conte (or any other manager we previously had), Ivanovic MUST play if fit?

Bench the guy.

DP

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

And of course the usual suspect with the biased folk tales appears  This forum sometimes.
A manager wins two trophies with this starting XI - with the admission from many that this endeavour is in fact nearly impossible - and gets demonized. SMFH.

I agree with SJ though, let's throw Aina in, it could be a winning move.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Just now, Blue_Fox_ said:

And of course the usual suspect with the biased folk tales appears  This forum sometimes.
A manager wins two trophies with this starting XI - with the admission from many that this endeavour is in fact nearly impossible - and gets demonized. SMFH.

I agree with SJ though, let's throw Aina in, it could be a winning move.

Maybe you should try the redcafe forum. Think you'd like it better there.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Let's keep it to Chelsea v WHU please.

[It's too big 625]

I think the main question here is, can we score vs West Ham's defence? Yes! With Hazard on form, Kante a brilliant addition to our midfield, Pedro/Willian and Fabregas, and Costa/Batshuayi up front we can absolutely terrorise West Ham's defence Monday night. I don't personally believe they can go head to head with us in any area of the field, especially in attack, so that only means one thing...

 

A Chelsea win, baby! COYB

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

4 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Maybe you should try the redcafe forum. Think you'd like it better there.

Yup let's keep it Chelsea v West Ham, please. No interest reading senseless bile.



To keep it on topic; same formation as against WB I think.

              Courtois
Ivanovic-Cahill-JT-Dave
               Kanté
Willian-Matic-Oscar-Hazard
               Costa
Hopefully Hazard will keep his pre-season form and won't go into his sulking, slacking form. As well as Oscar.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

5 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Yup let's keep it Chelsea v West Ham, please. No interest reading senseless bile.



To keep it on topic; same formation as against WB I think.

              Courtois
Ivanovic-Cahill-JT-Dave
               Kanté
Willian-Matic-Oscar-Hazard
               Costa
Hopefully Hazard will keep his pre-season form and won't go into his sulking, slacking form. As well as Oscar.

Same lineup although i'd switch Matic and Oscar around.

No your interest seems firmly concentrated on writing it.

Wouldn't worry about that mate. My inside sources tell me that the 3 ringleaders Costa, Fabregas and Hazard had a meeting and apparently they like this manager.

Something to do with this one not being a freaking sociopath.

 

 

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

29 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Same lineup although i'd switch Matic and Oscar around.

No your interest seems firmly concentrated on writing it.

Wouldn't worry about that mate. My inside sources tell me that the 3 ringleaders Costa, Fabregas and Hazard had a meeting and apparently they like this manager.

Something to do with this one not being a freaking sociopath.

Have no doubts that the Spanish guys will work hard under Conte, although I don't rate Fabregas I respect him as a professional.
Hopefully the Belgian will follow suit and keep working hard for the good of Chelsea, unlike Fabregas, I don't think of him as a serious professional, rather a volatile child with attitude problems and without the drive to better himself with his "relax" time, unprofessional to say the least.
As I've said, hopefully he'll keep liking Conte for the foreseeable future, but you never can know for sure.
Good shout about Oscar and Matic

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

42 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Have no doubts that the Spanish guys will work hard under Conte, although I don't rate Fabregas I respect him as a professional.
Hopefully the Belgian will follow suit and keep working hard for the good of Chelsea, unlike Fabregas, I don't think of him as a serious professional, rather a volatile child with attitude problems and without the drive to better himself with his "relax" time, unprofessional to say the least.
As I've said, hopefully he'll keep liking Conte for the foreseeable future, but you never can know for sure.
Good shout about Oscar and Matic

Good on you for walking away. I can't say I would have done the same.

[MefiX19 1,092]

Tbh i would drop one of Terry or Cahill and put Iva in their spot while Aina plays as Fullback. Also would like to see 4-3-3 with Kante Fabregas and CHalobah in the middle but not gonna happen