John Terry

[The only place to be 11,313]

So we should sell him because of that incident?

Nope. Clearly not what I've said. If that was the case then I would've said we should sell him last May.

I'm just using this example to explode the myth of 'his experience, his commitment, his leadership'. Not to put too fine a point on it, but in his biggest game for this club he lost his head and let his teammates, the club and the supporters down.

What about the million times his experience has saved the team? How about his experience that even got us to that game against Barcelona with great performances against Napoli (and a goal) and Benfica? What about the experience of Cech and Drogba that won us the CL?

His experience....his great performances have helped build this club but you don't give players contracts based on what they did do. You give them contracts based on what you expect them to do.

Honesty, I'm not sure what you're arguing? Is it that experience is not important? Or is it that JT is not good enough? Look at the match today, he had an excellent performance and was miles better than Cahil.

An excellent performance? Was this another game you didn't watch because he was not excellent and might even have been lucky to have stayed on the pitch. If that's what you consider an excellent performance, then it explains a lot.

My point is, you can't get a better squad player for 8m and more importantly you will lose the experience and leadership sills that he could pass onto other players on the training ground which, to me, is invaluable.

£8 million is what we will pay him in wages. The other £8 million is the transfer fee.

Experience, passing on knowledge, right-click 'mentor Nathan Ake' yes yes yes.....Vertonghen went for about £10 million, Kompany for about £7 million and we're not even talking about squad players with these guys.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Benitez: 'Terry has an ankle injury and Hazard a hamstring injury. We will wait for their scans.'

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Nope. Clearly not what I've said. If that was the case then I would've said we should sell him last May.

I'm just using this example to explode the myth of 'his experience, his commitment, his leadership'. Not to put too fine a point on it, but in his biggest game for this club he lost his head and let his teammates, the club and the supporters down.

The myth of his experience, commitment and leader ships? So he does not have those things? Really?! That's just absurd, if you truly think so.

His experience....his great performances have helped build this club but you don't give players contracts based on what they did do. You give them contracts based on what you expect them to do.

Of course you do. First, I'm saying to renew his contract. And second, I'm saying that we should keep him, because experience like his shows when it matters.

An excellent performance? Was this another game you didn't watch because he was not excellent and might even have been lucky to have stayed on the pitch. If that's what you consider an excellent performance, then it explains a lot.

Lucky to stay on the pitch? First, that was never more than a yellow card because he was not the last man. Second, he had to do that because Ramires lost the ball (from a poor pass from Cahill). He was correcting someone else's. See what experience did there? He took one for the team instead of letting Benteke past him. Had Cahill done that in the first goal, this game would not have been as difficult as it were.

Yes, I think he had a very good game. Dominated everything in the air in our box and hardly put a foot in wrong. But tell me please, why didn't you like his performance?

£8 million is what we will pay him in wages. The other £8 million is the transfer fee.

Experience, passing on knowledge, right-click 'mentor Nathan Ake' yes yes yes.....Vertonghen went for about £10 million, Kompany for about £7 million and we're not even talking about squad players with these guys.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

And Bosingwa went for 22m. Those are obviously exceptions, but usually you won't find a defender of JT's quality for 8m.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Let's just agree to disagree Choulo. There is nothing to be gained from us conversing because we don't agree on anything.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

There are two things to be considered here:

Like Choulo said, JT offers that experience and displays the mentality the team needs to have in crucial games. For this, he will always be an asset to the squad.

The second, is that we'll also need to look beyond JT as he's not going to be around forever. We need to breed new champions, and the only way that can happen is if the current crop can win something signficant without the presence of the old guard. The Europa league final could serve as yet another test for that.

[Joe Cool 388]

He had a massive performance today before the injury despite the possible sending off. It's a shame that he keeps getting injured, because it seems to take something out of him every time but oh well, that's the nature of the sport

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He's out of contract next summer, he costs £160,000 p/w and he hasn't played much this season.

Maybe Jose thinks he can use him again next season but £8 million (plus the same in saved wages) at least requires consideration doesn't it?

FUck it, money will always be there but players like Terry are just one and only. He is our legend and should retire properly; here.

Same goes for Lamps.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

According to The Guardian Galatasaray are to test John Terry's resolve to remain at Chelsea after the Turkish champions indicated they would be prepared to match the defender's salary, and offer him regular first-team football, as they prepare a formal bid for his services.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Mate of a mate type thing , but on good authority - hes out for 3 weeks.

Fatty would have benched him anyway...

[Phil Driver 503]

Just seen John Terry jogging on the pitch in Amsterdam ,looks like he is trying to declare himself fit ,what a warrior and great Chesea man he is ,he would die for Chelsea . Lets hope he makes it .

[renanh 311]

Just seen John Terry jogging on the pitch in Amsterdam ,looks like he is trying to declare himself fit ,what a warrior and great Chesea man he is ,he would die for Chelsea . Lets hope he makes it .

And now he just walked down the tunnel.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Maybe From the Bench...

[The Skipper 20,609]

Selling JT and not renewing Lampard's contract in one season is like selling your soul to me. Call me sentimental if you want but you just don't do that IMO.

[renanh 311]

Selling JT and not renewing Lampard's contract in one season is like selling your soul to me. Call me sentimental if you want but you just don't do that IMO.

The board has proven to be soulless time and time again.

[Phil Driver 503]

Selling JT and not renewing Lampard's contract in one season is like selling your soul to me. Call me sentimental if you want but you just don't do that IMO.

Jose will not let that happen ,he would not come if he were told to do that ,there would be no point ,hopefully our board treat Jose with the respect he deserves this time .